Presumed Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on June 29 that a lot of Syrian refugees who fled ISIS in their country for the U.S. are members of ISIS (video below).
Trump made his assertion during an interview with Fox News host Bill O'Reilly, who didn't believe the billionaire. Trump said:
Now, [ISIS is] a very large group of people and its only getting bigger and if [Hillary Clinton] gets in, it will be massive and we won’t even have a country anymore, we gonna be afraid to walk outside...
And Bill, remember one other thing, they are letting tens of thousands of people come in from Syria and nobody knows who these people are and a lot of those people are ISIS, a lot of these people are ISIS.
"I'm not convinced of that," O'Reilly countered. "But I think there has to be a slowdown on that and a real vetting."
The Atlantic reported on the vetting process in November 2015: "The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees initially chooses which refugees to refer to the U.S. after doing its own check. U.S. officials then conduct multiple in-person interviews and verify a refugee’s story with intelligence agencies and by running background checks through several government databases, including DHS and the National Counterterrorism Center."
Trump began the interview by refusing to disclose his plan to defeat ISIS:
Well, I do have them and I hate to give them out because, frankly, if I win, it looks like I have a pretty good chance of winning, I don't like to be giving out all this information, I'd just like to go and do the job. If you look at General [George] Patton, he wasn't one to give out information on television and do whatever he has to do.
While comparing himself to the World War II general, Trump didn't mention that Patton died in 1945 before TV was widespread, and didn't give any known speeches on the limited broadcasts during his lifetime.
Trump then recalled his past advice to take Iraq's oil, but O'Reilly told Trump that taking oil was not going to stop people from committing terrorism, which Trump admitted.
O'Reilly stated that President Barack Obama doesn't have a plan to stop ISIS -- despite Obama's multiple secret wars across the globe -- and asked Trump if he would make NATO attack ISIS, which would require the vote of NATO countries.
Trump recalled his criticisms of NATO, claimed credit for NATO deciding to fight terrorism and said NATO "oughta go in there and wipe them out."
The GOP candidate said Turkey had been deceived by ISIS, and would likely respond militarily for the recent terrorist attack in Istanbul, if there was proper leadership in the U.S. -- which has no authority over Turkey.
O'Reilly advised Trump to "pound this drum" about Turkey attacking ISIS with U.S. air power, but neither mentioned Russia's military presence in Syria.
O'Reilly and Trump went on to criticize President Obama and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Trump boasted about his polling numbers, recalled his opposition to Iraq and blamed the creation of ISIS on Clinton whom Trump insisted had "done nothing about ISIS."
As secretary of state, Clinton never had any legal authority to order any military action, but she did call for an increase in allied planes and air strikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria in November 2015, noted CNN.
Trump said that ISIS had gotten stronger, which O'Reilly dismissed. Trump insisted that ISIS is "all over the place."