Unlike most of the fake, tell-them-what-they-want to hear liberals that have come to define MSNBC, The Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald keeps it very, very real when discussing U.S. actions domestically and overseas. Because of that, it was refreshing to see him and Buck Sexton of The Blaze battle it out over American interventionism and how it influences terrorism against the United States on some random MSNBC show this weekend. (We got the clip from Mediaite, MSNBC is unwatchable when Chris Hayes isn’t on.)
The video is short because their debate was important and letting it run longer would’ve left no time for President Obama’s Top 10 jokes from the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, but it’s still enough to get the conversation going.
Greenwald noted: “There is a consistent trend on the part of people who attack the United States, which is that they all cite essentially the same thing: That the United States has continued to drone, bomb, invade, occupy, imprison and torture countless people in the Muslim world, and that people in that part of the world and Muslims who identify with it have concluded that the only way to make that stop, the only way to fulfill their notions of justice is to bring violence to the United States so that Americans can see the effects of that which they’re causing in other parts of the world.”
Sexton, in turn, pointed out that if jihadists didn’t have U.S. deeds as something they could prop up as justification for their actions, they’d simply use another country's deeds. Terrorism wouldn’t simply cease to exist if this country’s neocons stopped getting us into unnecessary wars, he says.
Unfortunately, neither got the opportunity to really build on their points because of how short the segment was. Still, this is a very, very important conversation that both sides should engage each other on, so check out what they did manage to cover in the video below.