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Should the U.S. Continue its War on Drugs?
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Legalizing removes the profit motive
The war on drugs is a lost cause! Let’s get rid of the profit motive and we’ll get rid of a lot of crime. That’s the fastest and surest way to put the traffic-ers out of business. Let’s get it under control and under supervision.
- redondo July 16, 2008 11:28PM
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It's a war on the people
Take a small slice of the population and wage war on them. This war has gone nowhere in 80 years, it can't be won. Treatment and medical solutions are more beneficial to the country than more police, soldiers and guns.
- John E
July 25, 2008 6:48PM
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too many victims
ABC News Tonight: The Tragic Death Of Rachel Hoffman — And The Tragedy That Is Pot Prohibition.
She was a college graduate who had gotten in trouble for possessing marijuana then selling marijuana to her circle of friends. They found a 1/4lb of marijuana in her house and about six ecstasy pills. Police said that she'd face 4yrs for the two felonies, or she could turn into a criminal informant. So they asked her to turn in two big time dealers. They wanted her to use 13k to buy cocaine ecstasy and a gun. She agreed. during the bust they lost her and she was killed by gun that she was supposed to buy.
This just goes to show that once you labeled a criminal your are less than human and therefor expendable. because they label drug users and sellers criminal they take away the human element from them in the eyes of the public. After that they do to you and your property as they please. This inhumane treatment has to end
just read these stories
http://www.mpp.org/victims /
- rchot July 27, 2008 1:14PM
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War Is Damaging to Everyone
I have experienced the side-effects of the U.S. "War On Drugs." In my case, a group of friends and I were pulled over, searched, harassed, and humiliated on the side of a frequented highway because an officer "thought" he saw us smoking marijuana in the car and he "thought" he saw us hide a bag of marijuana somewhere in the car. He "thought" he saw all of this from his cruiser. There was no smell of smoke. There was no traffic violation. There were no questions. There was no marijuana. We were just heading home. The crime we committed was that we were shaggy-haired college students. The policeman was a search and destroy missile for marijuana prohibition.
We had done nothing wrong and yet we were guilty until proven innocent according to this officer. He actually told us we were going to jail that night.
The war is not working. The soldiers are no longer just attacking the "enemy." They are attacking anyone who "looks like the enemy."
It is time to rethink drug laws.
- jlwils10 August 1, 2008 6:32PM
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Pills?
Let's see what David has to say about prescription drug abuse, which has skyrocketed during the last 10 years. Sadly, it is far more beneficial to your kid (in legal terms, at least) to be caught with a pocket full of vicodin than an eighth of weed.
- DelBeano
August 1, 2008 10:28PM
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Ridiculous.
The prohibition of cannabis lead by America's first drug czar, Harry Anslinger was founded under untruthful notions, i.e: "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."
And since there's been no reformation of policies regarding cannabis, the foundation of lies and racism still exist. More significantly, the government continually lies to this day about cannabis. For whatever [real] reason, the government does not want cannabis legalized. To this day they spread lies that cannabis is fatal, when infact, no one in recorded history has ever died from cannabis.
I have only scratched the surface, alas, it is clear that there needs to be a change in policy regarding cannabis.
- Dave Yas August 2, 2008 11:08AM
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The Drug War against Cannabis
Is built on lies and corporate greed.
- tRANIS
September 29, 2008 10:27AM
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Want to fund univeral health care for ALL Americans?
Easy stop the war on drugs I call it the War on the American People. The war is estimated to cost 100 billion a year, the cost of universal health care for ALL Americans is estimated to cost 70 billion a year do he math. We could use the 30 billion left to have a end of the war party! I live for the day! Let the 2 million non-violent good people out of jail (visit http://www.november.org / read there stories)! It is the least we can do they have spent years in jail for just being Americans. I am 60 and do not advocate anyone use drugs. But I will fight for you’re right to have the rights as Americans restored to you, called freedom of choice! I feel our representatives should be put in jail for waging this war for personal gain. Why else would they sacrifice our lives at the rate of one every 38 seconds for minor drug law BS. Many large corporations would lose money if it were made legal and they pay our representatives both sides of isles to keep it the way it is.
- Cherokee Fred hussein August 4, 2008 9:05PM
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Misreading polls
David Evans: "The public rejects legalization. A Gallup poll reported that over 80% of Americans held that legalizing drugs was a bad policy and a large majority feared legalization would lead to increases in addiction, drug overdoses, drug-related crime and drug use by children."
JohnInOhio: Mr. Evans' statement about this poll is misleading and either he is not qualified to make comments on social issues or he is intentionally misusing polls.
When we ask people if they think drugs should be legal, it is a very different thing than asking them if pot smokers or for that matter heroine addicts should be locked in cages with violent sociopaths or lose their civil rights as is happening today. Polls will vary dramatically with how you ask the questions and I suspect Mr. Evans knows that.
The so called War on Drugs can be ended without making heroine available at your local convenience store. There are a plethora of options for dealing with these issues, problems, and challenges.
- JohnInOhio
August 6, 2008 8:13AM
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There is no "War on Drugs"
Our Government, the Banking system, big business, and the CIA are all heavily involved in the business of illegal drugs.
All of this has been well documented, and FOIA papers reveal it.
Michael Ruppert's Book, Crossing the Rubicon, lays it all out in plain day. The "War on Drugs" is a myth to keep the masses in America thinking that law enforcement is doing something, while banks, governments, and the wealthy and powerful rake in mountains of dough.
If there were a war on drugs, then there would be arrests for money laundering, and banks shut down, credit card companies shut down. Ever heard of anything like that happening? No? I didn't think so. -see. There is no "War on Drugs".
- Principia1687
August 19, 2008 7:21PM
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The Drug war is a farce
It's an excuse for bogus government agencies to get a free swim pass in the nations tax pool and supports organized crime. Too many people are suffering because of this poor excuse for effective policy. prohibition only serves those who profit from it, not those it pretends to protect.
- Enjoy Cannabis
August 27, 2008 4:54AM
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End the war NOW!
Pop Quiz. Which of these are drugs: Marijuana, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine. Answer, all of the above, so why is one of those four treated differently? I don't do drugs but I also don't care what someone chooses to do in their home that has zero impact on my life. And as long as you are rambling about meaningless stats try adding in the thousands upon thousands of kidnappings and violent deaths that occur daily, not just on our streets but in Central and South America; all of which are attributable to one single thing: American Demand. We spend billions a year fighting the coke war in Columbia and have gained nothing. Why not really fight the war on drugs? Fight it by spending that money here and giving people something better for their lives so they won't need an escape. Spend the money on education so the urban poor wouldn't see selling drugs as their only way out. War on drugs my a$$, call it what it is. Its people like you ramming their morality down America's throat. Enjoy your three martini lunch but be sure to lock up little Billy for having a joint.
- Pliskin
September 8, 2008 6:46AM
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Smoke and Mirrors
(excerpt reprinted from: http://www.insurancefraud.org/drugDiversion . htm” ) Coalition Against Insurance Fraud
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“America faces an explosive epidemic involving the illegal use of legal drugs, usually highly addictive painkillers. The crime wave is called drug diversion. It involves the abuse, and illegal obtaining and resale of prescription drugs on the black market. Prescription drug diversion is one of the defining drug crimes in America today. It has few equals for sheer size, speed of growth, resistance to deterrence, harm to people from so many strata of society, and large costs to insurers. Overdoses, deaths and injuries continue growing at an alarming rate. In fact, more than 20 million Americans—nearly 7 percent of the population—will abuse prescription drugs in 2007, based on the National Survey on Drug Use and Health. Drug diversion’s alarming spread over the last five years is well-chronicled.
Insurance fraud is the main financier and enabler of drug diversion. Even so, few health insurers understand the pivotal role insurance fraud plays in a diversion epidemic that costs insurers up to $72.5 billion a year.”
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In my opinion:
The American society is drug addicted. Americans in general apparently prefer a drug-induced stupor to reality. Until this changes, all attempts at stopping drug traffic, illegal and legal, will be futile. The drug culture in this society is no accident and therefore stopping drug traffic, illegal and legal, is counter-productive and non-profitable. All attempts, no matter how well intentioned from the start, will be subverted before they can be successful. Until people do not want to take drugs, there will be drugs, illegal and legal. There are no pharmaceutical companies that would discourage drug use so expect that being bombarded by drug commercials 24/7 will increase, not decrease. The “War on Drugs” will continue also. Stopping “it” would also be counter-productive and non-profitable.
Imagine that there is no drug abuse. Then imagine who that affects financially. The affect it would have financially on the average American citizen would be positive, not negative. If the citizen is gaining, who is losing. The insurance companies paid someone 72.5 billion dollars. The people that are benefiting from drug abuse is where you will find the root of the drug problem. No drug abuse would mean a tremendous reduction in crime in all categories, not just drug abuse.
The government loses.
Illegal drug manufacturers and dealers lose.
Law enforcement agencies lose.
Medical professionals lose.
The judicial system loses.
Pharmaceutical manufacturers lose.
Pharmaceutical distributors lose.
Etc., etc.
Stopping 300+ million American’s dependence on drugs is like stopping their dependence on oil. The reason it doesn’t happen is because it is not allowed to happen. It is counter-productive and non-profitable. Just look at where the economy is now. A better example of the power of greed would be hard to find. It’s ok to destroy the world as long as there is a profit in it.
Drug dependence will not change until we become independent from drugs. As long as someone wants “it”, someone will provide “it” and if in the process, they can convince us that we need “it”, there is no end to the supply of “it” or profits from “it”. When we decide we do not want to buy drugs, they will go away. When we decide we do not want to be oil dependent, it will be replaced by an alternative.
The Department of Energy was created 31 years ago to reduce dependence on foreign oil. A $26 billion annual budget and 16,000+ employees has provided what? We have similar results from “The War on Drugs” at it’s 37th anniversary.
Smoke and Mirrors. Make no mistake, it’s all about the money. If we stop buying, they will find something else to sell.
- saga
January 8, 2009 8:36PM
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Lies and Greed
These are the two motivators of the war on drugs.
Take the money wasted trying to dictate freedom of choice on Americans. Fund universal health care for all Americans and have money left over!!! Then if someone gets a bad drug like Oxycontin they (if they choose) can get help. Quit putting Americans in jail for making a persona choice!!
- Cherokee Fred hussein February 18, 2009 3:15PM
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drug use is a medical problem
Legalize pot; use the money to open programs to help those that are addicted to drugs have a way out that is immediate ( it often takes 6 months to get into a rehab program); tax it ( yes people will grow it - do you grow your own tomatoes or make your own beer?)
The amount sold over the counter would pay for all medical needs for all addicted peoples.
I was a deputy sheriff; in Michigan; in Ann Arbor; and we were not supposed to arrest anyone for small amounts of pot. We did not have the room in jail. So now jails are bigger; and pot prisoners increase; and for what?
Look at how this war started; look at the motivations. Look how its going- its not. Its just a fun excuse for over invested cops to be bullies and bad guys.
The mindset of a criminal is that you get what you deserve. If you walk down a deserted street; you deserve to be robbed or raped or murdered. You were the fool; and you deserve what you get.
The mindset of the DEA is the same as the average criminal. You use drugs; you get caught; you get whatever they can give to you. Or take away- like your house; car and family.
We cannot win this war; when the warriors in it: have no more alliance with morality than the criminals.
Drugs are a medical issue - not a legal one.
- Elfking
February 18, 2009 5:40PM
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Good vs. Evil
Let's take a clear-eyed view here. On balance does the " war on drugs " produce more good for society , more evil, or is results neutral?
People want recreational drugs. That's a fact. Drug prohibitions = Enforcement costs. If the issue is under what circumstances can limiting drug use be cost effective, look to liquor for the answer. Driving, flying planes, operating machinery - yeah, prohibit that.
Allow almost all recreational drugs to be sold legally, regulated and taxed = happy people. A nation of zombies, or insane behaviors, probably not. Probably almost no impact on society at all other than releasing hundreds of thousands of " drug related offenders" and removing criminals from the equation. I'm sure Phillip Morris and Bacardi would be happy to provide the means of implementation.
Personally I got no dog in this fight. I stopped weed a long time ago and most likely wouldn't start again even when it does become legal. But I hate hypocrisy and stupidity and every other evil which defies common sense.
- Stark Raving Sane
April 15, 2009 12:58PM
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War on (some) Drugs is evil and stupid
Focus on actual crime . "Drug" users who are not stealing to support their habit shouldn't be persecuted any more than a "crazy cat-lady" who doesn't steal to feed her cats. Their choices may not be the best or smartest, but unless you own your own body and life, and that includes a right to destroy it if you wish, then you own NOTHING.
Most of the negative consequences of "drug" abuse are not due to the drugs themselves, but from the silly and immoral persecution of the users. Most "drug" users never suffer any ill-effects until caught. Most do their jobs safely and just as well as anyone else.
Chemicals don't affect performance or safety any more than emotional turmoil, tiredness, or distractions. Stop punishing people for "what ifs" and deal with the real world for a change.
- KentMcManigal May 29, 2009 10:59PM
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MAKE ALL DRUGS LEGAL THERE WOULD BE LESS CRIMES AND DEATHS AND THE US WOULD SAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
The only way this would work is if you would not have to buy your drugs on the streets.
Make it where you can only buy them in a store of some kind like a head shop.
- zman
May 30, 2009 10:16PM
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Junkies don't care...
This question really raises other, much more important questions. Why do Americans consume SO MUCH drugs? Why is treatment only for the rich? What drugs should we fight? After 9/11, drug prices did NOT increase, so border security is a lost cause. We cannot stem the tide, we fund narco-terrorists with our drug consumption. For these and iother reason, I recommend a big change in drup policy and enforcement.
"Just say no to drugs" is absurd (se equestions above). Every drug dealer opposes legalization, along with the police . Makes you wonder, eh? That aside, I am all for decriminalizing pot. I miss that great tasting Mexican weed we used to get in the 1970's. From what I understand, most of the pot today is stronger than in the old days. With properly cultivated weed, you could sell it like beer, wine, liquor, and that lovely aged whiskey that costs $225 a bottle.
BTW, Yes, No or Uncommitted are too few choices in the poll to "Continue the War on Drugs?" - we need to look at what our current drug policy does, which is reward criminals and jail users.
- BostonGuy55
June 10, 2009 5:39PM
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What should.
Ok so what should we do? Stop and say ok, were done you win have fun with your drugs? Of course not, as of now there is no obvious and more effective way to stop drug use . People say tax the drug's like crazy if we legalize them. Well that does NOTHING, drug making will continue and drug dealer's will continue to make it because let's face it IF we pile on the taxes the drug dealers will just sell cheaper. And even more people who wanna "try" it will become addicted. Thous destroying America.
- Dylandts
August 13, 2009 9:15PM
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*note*
The one drug I think we should legalize is marijuana . Not because I use it but because it is so widely used, that the legalization would save the DEA a ton of money , and the tax from marijuana could benefit the DEA in stopping major drugs.
- Dylandts
August 13, 2009 9:21PM
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End the Drug War
The drug war is an evil war on the American public. A SWAT raid is a declaration of war. People and pets are killed or injured, botched raids abound, property is stolen. The drug war is very corrupt. The war has not accomplished anything good, only harmed the people it is supposed to be protect. The injustices are disgusting.
- HerbalRemedy
August 23, 2009 7:26PM
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