http://www.opposingviews.com/questions/is-spanking-an-acceptable-form-of-discipline Opposing Views - Is Spanking an Acceptable Form of Discipline? http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/are-you-actually-scared-that-we-ll-become-communists What? “Karl Marx’s dream?” So… if laws are passed to enforce the rights of children, we’ll become communists? This is laughably paranoid. Even the... CNVEP Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:41:23 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/are-you-actually-scared-that-we-ll-become-communists http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/other-bad-ideas-happened-for-a-long-time-too This is such a goofy argument; I hardly know where to begin. The equation of how long a practice has been in use with the inherent wisdom of said practice is ludicrous. Here are a few other “disciplinary methods” that have gone on... CNVEP Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:37:49 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/other-bad-ideas-happened-for-a-long-time-too http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/no-support-in-the-bible-for-spanking Are these people reading what I’m saying? Apparently not. I said, clearly, there is no Biblical support for spanking per se. As for invoking my Lord and Savior’s behavior as the model, can we state for the record that Jesus was not a parent? I... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:07 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/no-support-in-the-bible-for-spanking http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-doesn-t-work-and-is-harmful The fact is, many if not most parents accomplish next to nothing with time out, taking away privileges, or any other disciplinary consequence. For example, parents who use time out often report that they use time out over and over again for the same... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:07 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-doesn-t-work-and-is-harmful http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/labeling-and-name-calling-does-not-add-to-the-debate By what standard of cultural well-being can No Spankers claim that society is better off when children are not spanked? The countries that have banned spanking have done so primarily because they foolishly signed on to one of the most socialist... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:07 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/labeling-and-name-calling-does-not-add-to-the-debate http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-hitting-plain-and-simple I didn't say that because something has been around for centuries, millenia even, makes it right. If you're going to argue with me, perhaps you should strive to comprehend what I'm saying first instead of simply reacting with a knee-jerk. I'm saying... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:05 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-hitting-plain-and-simple http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-banned-because-of-harm-and-inhumanity-to-children What harm? And if it's inhuman, then why have human parents been spanking children for longer than history records? My detractors cannot prove, using objective evidence, that spanking per se is harmful, so they appeal to emotion. They have... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:03 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-banned-because-of-harm-and-inhumanity-to-children http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/again-this-is-rhetoric John Rosemond says that calling corporal punishment violence is “rhetoric.” You cannot strike your spouse, your neighbor, or even your neighbor’s dog. That’s not “rhetoric.” That is considered violence AND... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:00 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/again-this-is-rhetoric http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-doesn-t-work-and-is-harmful John Rosemond says that most parents don’t accomplish anything by spanking . They spank the same children over and over. That means it is generally ineffective, even in his view. He would have to agree that... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:57 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-doesn-t-work-and-is-harmful http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-rhetoric Rosemond claims that the problem is not spanking per se, but “the stupid way in which many parents administer spankings.” That statement is demeaning of parents who... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:57 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-rhetoric http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/finally-ced-reveals-its-real-agenda CED provides information about effects of physical punishment of children and alternatives. CED’s real agenda is supporting parents through teaching positive discipline and the effects of physical punishment.?? When parents are aware of... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:57 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/finally-ced-reveals-its-real-agenda http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-simply-wrong John Rosemond criticizes research done by Murray Straus and says he is biased and an “ersatz” researcher. Rosemond holds up Robert Larzelere as an example of an unbiased researcher. Larzelere... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:57 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-simply-wrong http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/rosemond-refutes-four-decades-of-research John Rosemond refutes four decades of research showing harmfulness of corporal punishment. His authority is apparently his own experiences and his reading of the Bible. He demeans a premier researcher known throughout the world, Dr. Murray Straus of... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:47 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/rosemond-refutes-four-decades-of-research http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/no-support-in-the-bible-for-spanking Regarding Biblical support for hitting children, many people tell us that they espouse “Spare the rod and spoil the child.” They believe it has a biblical basis (see link below, "Materials...")... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:47 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/no-support-in-the-bible-for-spanking http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-banned-because-of-harm-and-inhumanity-to-children John Rosemond finds arguments over spanking of children become “hysterical” and we assume he means symptomatic of a nervous disorder and terribly funny. It is neither. More than one hundred nations have banned corporal... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:44 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-banned-because-of-harm-and-inhumanity-to-children http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-hitting-plain-and-simple John Rosemond says that parents have employed spanking for thousands of years. That doesn’t make it right. Many barbaric punishments that were once accepted in society – the thumbscrew, the rack, burning at the s... Center for Effective Discipline Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:44 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/spanking-is-hitting-plain-and-simple http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-rhetoric This is rhetoric. Substitute any form of punishment for spanking and the result is equally meaningless. Indeed, effective discipline is the process by which the anti-social child is transformed into a willing disciple who will look up to his... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:40 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-rhetoric http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-simply-wrong This is simply wrong. The studies - and there are not "hundreds" of them - that have purported to show negative effects of spanking have been constructed to yield results consistent with researcher bias. The primary offender in this category is... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:40 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/this-is-simply-wrong http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/finally-ced-reveals-its-real-agenda Finally, CED reveals its real agenda, which, as I've already said, is the elimination of the punishment of children. Positive discipline is the attempt to talk children into behaving appropriately. This leads straight to diagnosis and medication. John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:40 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/finally-ced-reveals-its-real-agenda http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/again-this-is-rhetoric Again, this is rhetoric. How's this: Sending a child to his room is the intentional use of isolation and rejection to stop misbehavior. Since it involves rejection, it is a psychologically abusive act. If an adult were isolated in a room, we would... John Rosemond Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:40 -0600 http://www.opposingviews.com/counters/again-this-is-rhetoric