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When is Nudity OK for a Christian?

By Ted Slater | Focus on the Family Blog

Comments on several blog posts tell me that this is a hot topic: When and how
is it appropriate to include nudity and portrayals of sexual intercourse in
various forms of art, specifically film?

In regards to viewing nudity, it's clear that there's a spectrum of
appropriateness. On one hand, it may be appropriate for a man to view his wife's
or baby's unclothed body; at certain times a male physician may be within his
right to view a woman's unclothed body. On the other hand, it's never
appropriate for a man to view a woman other than his wife with lustful desire in
his heart, whether she is clothed or unclothed.

Perhaps the rightness or wrongness of viewing nude forms has to do with
vocation: a husband's vocation to please his wife, for example, or a physician's
vocation to care for his patients.

And perhaps the rightness or wrongness of viewing nude forms also has to do
with the heart: viewing a woman lustfully is clearly wrong.

Perhaps Scripture can provide some clarity, some insights into this
issue.

Job
made a covenant with his eyes not to "gaze at a virgin." Habakkuk
associates "gazing" at someone's unclothed body as shameful. There's something
about "gazing" at someone you're not married to that Scripture considers
wrong.

To directly challenge a comment on another blog post: Scripture does indicate
that a woman's breasts are sexual for men, and not merely for men in "civilized
cultures." Consider Proverbs
5:19
and Song
of Solomon 7:6-12
and Ezekiel
23:3,21
, for example. To further illustrate, let me ask our female readers a
couple of questions: If a man not your husband touched your shoulder, that'd
probably be all right, right? But if he touched you elsewhere, it would not be
all right. If he looks you in the eye, that's probably all right, right? But if
he gazes elsewhere, would you not feel uncomfortable? Of course, because you
would feel sexually violated.

Nakedness is associated with disgrace and shame (Isaiah
47:3
, Micah
1:11
, Nahum
3:5
, Revelation
3:18
). When we see someone who is without clothing, we are not to admire
their form, but to cover them (Isaiah
58:7
, Ezekiel
18:7
, Genesis
9:22-27
).

God modeled this by clothing Adam
and Eve
. God did this because He deemed such a gift to be good; not
giving such a gift would not be good; therefore it would be
bad not to give such a gift; because this gift's purpose was to cover
their unclothed bodies, it follows that it was bad for Adam and Eve to go around
with unclothed bodies.

God again covers nakedness in Ezekiel
16:8
. Jesus affirms clothing the unclothed in Matthew
25
.

I need to make it clear that the human body is not shameful. It is glorious.
But in most cases, uncovering it before others is condemned. Just as, perhaps,
interacting inappropriately with the sacred Ark of the Covenant was condemned.

Scripture is clear that it is wrong to "lie sexually" with someone to whom
you're not married (Leviticus
18:20
). The marriage bed is to remain undefiled (Hebrews
13:4
). Actors who portray sexual intercourse with someone to whom they're
not married are rejecting both of these principles. By paying money to view
these actors, we are facilitating and affirming their ungodly behavior.

I see plenty of instances in Scripture where viewing unclothed bodies is
wrong. Does Scripture ever portray unclothed bodies as right? Hm. Well,
maybe. Isaiah
"walked naked and barefoot for three years as a sign ... against Egypt and
Cush." The Lord Himself directly commanded Isaiah to do so in order to indicate
the shame these peoples would experience.

Should passers-by have averted their gaze, like the men of Coventry who
refused to look at the Lady Godiva as she rode horseback through their town,
naked and humbled, sacrificing her honor for
their sake
? Yeah, probably.

It's also likely that Jesus was without clothing as he was hanging on the
cross. His garments were
divided
among
those
who carried out the crucifixion. This nakedness may have contributed to the
shame
He experienced on the cross.

As with Isaiah, Jesus' humiliation was a display of God's holy judgment
against sin. Like Lady Godiva, He sacrificed His honor for our sake. It had no
entertainment value.

(Note, of course, that the nakedness of neither Isaiah nor Jesus was in any
way sexual, but was heartbreakingly shameful and humiliating.)

So is it good for storytellers to use unclothed bodies in their art? Does the
vocation of "artist" grant someone the same authority that husbands or
physicians may have to view an unclothed woman? Does their vocation permit them
to instruct unmarried couples to engage in sexual behavior? Even if so, when is
it good for the rest of us to view the nakedness and sexual activity they
present to us?

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philwa's picture

ho hum

anytime is o.k. as long as you are not some big stinky fat,smelly,disgusting retard

Matthew Neal's picture

A Thorough and Biblical Response

At one time, I believed much like Mr. Slater. As a bible-believing Christian, I consider God's Word to be my authority for life and all issues of morality.

However, when I had occasion to examine the Scriptures carefully to discern God's true perspective on the human body, I found out that all of the things I had learned and believed were based on faulty interpretations of the Scriptures.

Mr. Slater reiterates those same false interpretations.

I have just completed a point by point response to Mr. Slater's article. I demonstrate how in each and every case, his summary of the Scriptural teaching and the conclusions he has drawn are mistaken.

I am more committed to God's truth as revealed in His Word than I ever was... And that is why I have written my response.

I welcome any review or response.

http://thebiblicalnaturist.blogspot.com/2011/06/when-is-nudity-ok-for-christian.html

By HIS grace

— Matthew Neal

HolySmokes's picture

Many assume some things

Many assume some things regarding nudity that are a bit of "reading between the lines" - something that gets some to make doctrines of things not taught in scripture. For one thing, it was mentioned that God clothing Adam & Eve was good, with other assumptions implied.

Well, when God made Adam & Eve, He made them naked, and the bible says He declared what He'd made to be "very good". Scripture also says they were "naked & unashamed". Jesus fussed about people using scripture to cancel out scripture to get a teaching that is more to their liking, as the Pharisees did. You cannot ignore the above truths. Neither can you ignore the fact that God ordered Isaiah, a holy prophet, to go naked for several years. Plus, the bible states that God does not change. What this all means...is that the view presented EXcludes some truths in order to favor personal opinions. Not good.

If such is happening, we then must wonder, "why?" -- What is the devil trying to make us blind about...& why? I think some of it goes back to the teaching on the fall of man & what was indeed mentioned. God asked them, "Who told you that you were naked?" Hmmm, yeah, they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good & evil, but there also seems to be an implication that it was not God Himself making them "afraid" so that they hid themselves from being seen "naked". If not God, then who? Well, who tempted them? The devil - Satan. Satan was cast from Heaven, then you see him causing humanity to not only be ruined by sin, but also afraid of God...because they were naked. They'd been naked before & seen by God. Adam used to walk & talk with God, right?

So, the devil used an implied lie about nudity to separate people from fellowship with God - fellowship that Satan USED to have. Hmmm, sounds like bitter envy & hateful jealousy! God clothed them...to restore the fellowship. That is the only biblically-sound reason, not because nudity was sinful, as scripture proves it wasn't. In fact, if it were, God would have been sinning to tell Isaiah to go about naked so much!

More? -- Mankind was made in God's image & likeness, so what could be more glorious? Didn't Jesus, God the Son, say Solomon in all his glory didn't clothe himself as nicely as the lillies of the field. People, nude & innocent, are yet more glorious than all we can make for ourselves, as we bear the image of God. As Jesus said, render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's" when He asked whose image was on the coin.

Nudity is not sin. Sin is a matter of the heart. A person with an innocent heart can be pure while naked just as a clothed person can be sinful while clothed. If not so, woe to all us sinners who take baths or showers unclothed, as we'd all be sinning as soon as we step out of our clothing; and, woe be to the poor & destitute in the world who would be automatically sinning if their poverty left them unable to clothe them or their children. If some poor child dies naked & starving in Ethiopia, does the child immediately go to hell just for being naked? No. What about poor adults or those who are killed in violence while nude, such as rape or in war-torn areas? The sins of the one doing evil do not, in themselves, force the victim to go to hell just because the victims cannot help themselves, right? Otherwise, how could we say people are personally accountable?

Western christianity must relearn the christian religion to some extents, as we have foiled it. Why else do we so lack the works of God in our lives that WERE the halmark of biblical christians.

sparksfire's picture

Nudity

Our body only belong to three persons. God, yourself and your mate. After a child learn modesty (you should teach that), that body do not belong to the parents. A mother should never walk in when her son is taking a bath or shower. Don't be in the doctor office when he is getting a physical exam. Don't take him to a female doctor (female nurse should not be in there too) A female nurse (teacher) should not see your son naked. Just because you a mother don't give you this right. If you want your son to have respect for female, you need to give him respect in this area.

gdoudney's picture

Nudity and Christians

Nudity and Christians
Me:
I am a born again Christian, a devote believer of the Word of God using only the Authorized King James version of 1611. This bible is becoming harder to find……… Wonder why? I can also understand why so many people are confused and can be easily led astray by the so called experts that manifest themselves to be the final and absolute authority of our religious circle and don’t even believe the Bible itself. These are people that want God himself to bend down to their/our stands, and not to God. Rewriting scriptures, removing the deity of Christ or making it “easier to read” and telling the people its the word of God. Are they evil? No! I believe that they are good Christians, born again believers of Jesus Christ and I would support them as I would any other Christian its just that their part of the book of life will not be given to them (Revelations 22:18, 19) They are caught up in world and manifested in the own self glory. I will not link the verses, because there references are not King James, and is not the word of God. You can find and look on the internet the King James AV1611.
Nudity in part can be shame, yes, but it is however a symbol of poverty, hopefulness, and humbleness. All of the verses I have followed in this blog so far, are completely in left field, and out of context. These verses are interpretations, and not translations. Again the “wooden nickel” is slipped into people seeking the truth (wooden nickel is a phrase to explain Satan’s deception).
We all know that God can not be in the presents of Sin, in any manner at any time or form. God has visited Adam and Eve many times in the Garden of Eden and they were both naked, and they both knew no sin and because they have not yet eaten from the tree of life. If Adam and Eve knew no sin, and God himself was in their presents, how be it a sin or shame?
Many preachers take advantage of Genesis 3:21 to support clothing of a naked body by spinning it out of context. The coat that God made of skin is a sign of righteousness, not because they were nude. When you go to church, you must wear the coat of righteousness (today known as clothing). The serpent (Satan) mocked and made fun of their nudity into shame because of his hatred toward God, and therefore they received the “Wooden nickel” so to speak; believing that their nudity was shameful. When God called Adam and Eve in the Garden, they had the belief that nudity was a shame from the words from Satan and hid themselves from God. God knew that something was wrong because Adam and Eve was believing nakedness was shameful. In verse 3:11, God asked “Who told thee that thou wast naked?”
In closing for now, as I am sure I ruffed up a bunch of fir and extended the limits of this blog, I would say, if you feel shameful of being nude, either in public or private, why? Could it be because of Satan’s demeaning words to Adam and Eve at the tree of life?
I could write a book on this subject, but I will let this single passage speak for itself. I truly hope and pray that you yourself will look for the truth. May God be with you all. Gene

transparentman's picture

Weak apposing views

In scriptures I see that nudity is not shameful in it's self. In Genesis God mad Adam and Eve naked,and he commanded them to multiply
and subdue the Earth.
Now when Adam and Eve disobeyed God, They had gained a sinful nature. And God curse all creation, Therefor the weather,contact with some plant or animals can cause injury or death to our bodies.
So in some cases we need to wear cloths to protect our bodies.
We also wear clothes because their are may people who will commit harmful acts against others if they see them naked,rape ,murder .
The scripture teach in the book of Leviticus not to uncover a person's nakedness unless it's your spouse. These scriptures are teaching not to have sex with any one except your spouse.
When God use a prophet to go naked to be a testimony against
nation, the object lesson is you are unprotected,and exposed to danger,just as a naked body is to thorny plants.
We also wear clothes so that we don't cause people to stumble into sin.
My conclusion is that the nude body is not sinful,but the action of people can be. So practice nudity with discernment.

treehouse's picture

The article and comments are mixing up issues

They talk about being nude, but the only justification in the article for clothes is that if we are nude, then others will sin. So I guess the basis is that without clothes we cause others to sin, but with clothes we don't, or are less likely.

Sometimes people wear clothes to become more attractive than nude. So I guess those clothes are sinful.

Some people wear clothes because they have a pride problem. They don't like the way their body looks, and are self conscious about it. That is pride, and a sin.

I heard of a man being arrested for being nude in his house. Some people walked by, looked in the window, and called the police. That was just wrong.

Here is a way to check for strange behavior: If a single person is afraid to walk from one bathroom to another nude looking for towel even though he knows nobody is there, then he has a problem.

Mike D's picture

Cover up gods hideous creation

To not lust is impossible.
Good tactic to keep the believers coming to church to repent and contribute the money.
We have bodies that are attractive in order to keep us reproducing. If we didn't look good, no one would want to have sex.
Religion just confuses the whole thing and makes everyone have issues with their own normal feelings of lust.
I am not saying we should all run around naked but to make something so taboo, only creates more curiosity and thus more mental issues.

svanros's picture

when is NUDITY OK for a christian??

When ever they want!

Why are so many Americans " afraid" of nudity?

Why do they say they think of "dirty" and "sinful" things when confronted with nudity?

And why do Christians TODAY still follow human cultural traditions, social laws and ideas written thousands of years ago by members of local churches in the general area where Jesus used to hang out?

Gregory's picture

Gregory speaks on Nudity

I wanna say first off, that I believe in Jesus as much as anyone here, so don't come off all holy on me, and you godless heathen can say whatever you want. Gregory is just being honest.

I was raised out in the woods, and i like being nekked. I think most people do like being nekked when the weather's nice, and the water 's warm in the swimmin' hole.

Christian people can't hide a thing from God with their clothes, and there's no commandment for clothes-wearing that doesn't amount to plain common sense, and a sense of decency. Heck, even most of these godless atheists know that wearing your thong to sell brushes door to door is probably a bad idea, and could get you locked up. The ones that don't need some kinda therapy.

But you religious types are analyzing the nekkedness issue way too much. You guys always do that! Nobody needs a dang rulebook to know when they need to put clothes on! You gotta listen to the Holy Spirit, and your God-given common sense!

gee whiz! why do you stuffy religious people gotta make simple stuff into a VCR manual.

Here are some common sense ideas for wearing clothes. Feel free to add some in your own posts.

When to wear clothes:
1. crossing a briar patch
2. collecting honey from your beekeeping endeavors.
3. handling snapping turtles.
4. weedeating that patch of poison oak
5. on a first date
6. meeting the parents
7. church , unless you go to one of those hippie churches.
8. picking the kids up from school

When you can shuck the clothes:
1. when nobody's lookin'
2. when nobody cares
3. when the kids are gone, and you wanna make your wife smile at how goofy old nekked guys look.
4. when you are accepted into one o'those tribes of pygmies on national geographic.

lol. I hope this clears things up for you. If you think Ol'Gregory's a sinner for skinny dippin' , you just pray for him. You might learn how much of your religion is Junk, and how much of it is Jesus that way, cause the Spirit won't lie to you.

HolySmokes's picture

I think you miss something if

I think you miss something if you exclude nudity around the kids...& involving teh kids. They need it - seriously! They need to not be freaked out about nudity as they grow up.

If boys & girls grow up w/o innocent nudity, they get messed up - even religious ones, in certain ways. It is wholesome to have innocent nudity & it is instructive in good ways.

1 - Kids see what they will become like as they mature.

2 - They become less moved by curiosity, which is good concerning nudity.

3 - They become more "bullet-proof" in regard to molestation, IMO, as they will be accustomed to nudity & decent, nude behavior. So, they will know, first of all, what "creepy" or indecent behavior is; and, 2ndly, they probably won't be as likely to "freeze up" if someone starts trying to behave innapropriately with them - they can take action against it.

4 - Nudity allows kids to realize the nature of the human species, something even the bible alludes to as to what is normal for humans. Normalcy of gender roles will become more apparent. Boys will realize they are formed to have sex with a female in a certain physiological way when they grow up & get married. Girls, will know likewise about sex with a boy or man being normal procreation for the species when grown. They WILL understand that sticking a weenie in a person's bum is NOT normal, and that people are not made to function that way - either by nature or by God! They will understand that the butt is for sitting on & defecating from - the human body is sort of a one-way street in certain ways.

5 - As parents mature or there is a need for healthcare in "sensitive" areas for them, their parents, or their siblings, it will not be extremely traumatic and whatever needs to be done for wellbeing can be done,...without it seeming "nasty". Can you imagine God's frustration at so many people always thinking the human body is nasty, somehow?

Sirnarnian's picture

Nudity Among Men

Here is a view of some Christian Men, when it comes to nudity.

http://gasguys.wordpress.com

K in Newfoundland's picture

God created it...

Nudity is the most natural form of the human body, which, we are told, was created in God's image. If this is so, then nudity is to be looked at the same way we look at a beautiful flower or sunset/sunrise, as a beautiful creation by the Creator.

dogon's picture

Belief ?

"Nudity is the most natural form of the human body, which, we are told, was created in God's image"

Kin that sounds a like you do not believe it....I do not ....but in your past remarks you state your are Christian....yet "may not" believe the "made in his image" doctrine. .....

If you do not mind I would like to pose a question....

How does one pick and choose parts of a faith centred on a document ....the bible .....that is purported to be inerrant ?

K in Newfoundland's picture

Liberal, not conservative...

Dogon, I am indeed a Christian, but not in the same sense that a fundamentalist such as a Baptist or Pentecostal is. My beliefs are based on Orthodox (catholic and anglican) Christianity in combination with New Age and Eastern beliefs. It is not a "pick and choose" situation, it is a compatibility situation. I`ll explain: everything I believe in as a Christian is based on Christ`s teachings in Matt. 5-7, and in the writings of the Apostle John, especially chapters 1 thru 3. I do not accept the Old Testament as having authority equal to the Gospel, nor to I accept the writings of Paul as being equal to the Gospel. Paul and the Old Testament writers are commentarial, while the Gospel is canonical. Basically, everything must hold up to the teachings of Christ Himself, as revealed to us in the Gospels.That`s liberal Christianity in a nut-shell, hope I`ve enlightened you.

gma's picture

Anyone who uses any holy book as a source of truth

is hopelessly delusional.

Holy books are nothing more than books full of holes, starting with the claim that gods exist without offering any shred of verifiable and falsifiable evidence to support this claim.

From there it is only downhill and not worth even reflecting on.

politicalair's picture

Don't ya hate it......

Don't ya just hate it when people write an opinion article and declare it factual because they throw a few quotes out there (usually out of context)?

This article is so silly. God clothed Adam & Eve as a punishment ! God made the human form and deemed it a work of art!

Nudity is not, in and of itself, ever vulgar. It is how it is used. To see a nude body is not wrong nor does it make you lustful. Ask any OB/GYN!

The sin is the motive. Motive is always the sin, and God alone knows our motives. How about if FOTF talks more about attitude and less about societial trappings.

The Celestial Teapot's picture

Gosh

Do Christians really spend time worrying about this kind of thing? Why are so many religious people so obsessed with sex ?

MrBook's picture

puzzlement

I have always been confused by people who look to the two thousand year old standards of a bunch of nomads in a distant corner of the world.

Their obsession with sex , pleasure, and reproduction is particularly confusing.

quantummechanik's picture

Why is David up there?

David's Jewish. We're allowed to be nude as much as we want to.

Salero21's picture

When is Nudity ok for a christian?

.

Of the top of my head! When is taking a shower in indoors.

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truthseeker2506's picture

To Study More About What The Bible Says Regarding Nudity...

The truth is that God searches our hearts to see if we are fully devoted to Him (I Chron. 28:9; II Chron. 16:9; Jer. 17:10). That is the most important thing in life. The flesh counts for nothing (John 6:63). For Christians, if anything in life causes us to become so trapped in sin that we stumble in our faith and lose our devotion to God, it would be wrong for us to continue in that pursuit (Prov. 5:22, 12:13; Jas. 4:17). If nudity causes our hearts to lust (that is, to strongly desire to possess or control someone for personal sexual pleasure), that would be wrong for us (Job 31:1; Matt. 5:28). If nudity causes our hearts to commit porneia (that is, any sort of sexual involvement with anyone other than my spouse), as Christ describes in Matthew 19:9, that also would be wrong for us. But the truth of God is that nudity, in and of itself, isn't wrong--especially when the scriptures are so clear that this was such a significant part of God's original plan for humankind--a state of being that He called "very good" (Gen. 1:31).

Think about it--if non-sexual nudity is wrong before God, why would He so strongly approve of David dancing naked in public, while punishing Michal, his wife, for criticizing him about this activity in II Sam. 6? (Remember, an "ephod" isn't a loincloth--it is a sheer linen waist-length shirt. In any event, the context is clear that David publicly exposed himself in ways that offended his wife.) If nudity is wrong, why would God command Isaiah to preach naked in public for three years (Isa. 20:3)? Why would Christ strip off all of His clothes in the company of others (including, quite likely, servant women who regularly accompanied Him) in John 13--except for a small towel wrapped around His waist (for the purpose of washing feet--not to hide His nakedness)? After being crucified naked by the Romans (to shame Him, if that were possible!), why would Jesus appear to Mary Magdalene near the garden tomb without wearing his burial clothes (John 20:6-7) in such a manner that Mary thought He was a gardener (who usually performed this hot and dirty job while nude) (John 20:15)? Why would Peter, one of Christ's closest disciples, be fishing out on the very open and public Sea of Galilee while being naked enough that he had to put on clothes before jumping from his boat to swim to shore toward the resurrected Christ (John 21:7)?

The truth is this: For those whose hearts can remain pure about non-sexual nudity and appreciate the beautiful of God's creation "in His image", all things about this experience are pure before God. For those who see corruption in this experience, nothing is pure because their minds and hearts are corrupted (Cf. Titus 1:15). Artificially created man-made rules, restraints, customs and traditions against nudity may appear wise in their harsh treatment of the body, but they are destined to perish with use because of their man-made origins and their lack of value in restraining sensual indulgence (Cf. Col. 2:20-23).

The old saying is: "If God has wanted us to be nude, we would have been born that way." The truth of God is that no matter how much we cover and conceal the way we look, and hide the fact that we are created "in His image" (Gen. 1:26), we are always naked before God (I Cor. 14:25; Heb. 4:13). If His plan from the beginning was that humankind can, and should, live on this earth "naked and unashamed" (Gen. 2:25), then how can anyone say that God's Will in this matter is sinful conduct in and of itself?

Many may suppose that non-sexual nudity is totally self-indulgent behavior with prurient interests. But they overlook the spiritually pure aspects of this communion with God and humankind--experiencing the wonderful freedom God graciously and lovingly gives us in Christ to express our humanness by unveiling His creation in glorifying Him and His image; the beautiful transparency of physically confirming what is already true--that we can hide nothing from our omniscient and masterful Creator; and the banishment of shame that springs from the evil mind and heart of Satan--our adversary, accuser and dedicated destroyer.

Who is it that condemns nudity--God or man? If it is God, then where is the prohibition in His Word? Certainly He would leave no doubt in scripture that it is not His Will for us to be naked on this earth (or in heaven to come, when our righteous acts in Christ Jesus will be our only clothing), and contrary to His original plan in the Garden of Eden. If it is man, who first told us we were naked, and from whom did any prohibition about nudity first come? Think about it...

nytro's picture

Great last paragraph Truthseeker!

Truthseeker2506 wrote:
"Who is it that condemns nudity--God or man? If it is God, then where is the prohibition in His Word? Certainly He would leave no doubt in scripture that it is not His Will for us to be naked on this earth (or in heaven to come, when our righteous acts in Christ Jesus will be our only clothing), and contrary to His original plan in the Garden of Eden. If it is man, who first told us we were naked, and from whom did any prohibition about nudity first come? Think about it..."

- truthseeker2506

That paragraph wraps up the discussion to a "T"! We live our lives through traditions, not based on God's word, but rather on sinful man's thoughts and ideas.

KentMcManigal's picture

Where's that "eye rolling smiley"?

Or, just maybe, the Bible's "morality" was invented by bronze-age shepherds who thought it was OK to sell their daughters into slavery, but didn't want other shepherds looking at "their" women. Just sayin'....

MrBook's picture

speaking to the flock

Well this whole essay is speaking to Christians , the arguments have no relevance to those who do not believe in the Bible.

Submariner's picture

If by this you mean

It is futile and juvenile to quibble over the bent over "logic" necessary to explain what the bible has to say on this and most other subjects, I think you might be on to something.

Can someone tell my why this book is supposed to be an authority on morality? Other than the divine command to adhere, I mean.

wordworker's picture

Better Yet...When Is It NOT Appropriate?

Mr. Slater’s article is purportedly about art and the portrayal of nudity therein, but from the second paragraph, he makes it more about personal nudity and how God views it. In that light, I’ll adapt my response as well.

First, he mentions a verse from Job (3:31). It seems to me that Job’s intent here is to not look at a virgin to consider her for marriage. It makes no mention of her state of dress. The reference from Habakkuk (2:15) is more an indictment of wanton and cruel behavior, than of nudity.

Mr. Slater, in a challenge to another blog comment, asks female readers some questions. The first and most obvious question I have is...what does any of the above have to do with nudity? Not to put too fine a point on it, a woman’s provocative dress can provoke lust.

In the next paragraph, he states: “Nakedness is associated with disgrace and shame.” Yes, sometimes it is, but takeen at face value, it would be disgraceful and shameful for a husband and wife to be naked with one another!

As to Mr. Slater’s comments regarding Adam and Eve, why then, did God not clothe them in the first place? He could have made our first ancestors with fur, feathers, or leaves, as he did for the animals and plants. The clothing he provided was to be for protection, outside the perfect environment of Eden.

In the next paragraph he cites a verse from Ezekiel (16:8): “When I passed by you again and saw you, behold, you were at the age for love, and I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness; I made my vow to you and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Lord God, and you became mine.” This one seems problematic, when you take it at face value and don’t recognize it as a marital covenant. Essentially the same thing occurred in Ruth (3:9): “I am your servant Ruth. … Spread the corner of your garment over me, since you are a kinsman-redeemer.” This raises an interesting question in itself. Was Ruth naked at the time, since she was seeking marriage to Boaz? The comment regarding Jesus saying that we should clothe the naked merely indicates that he advocates compassion. There are more reasons to wear clothing—for protection and warmth, for instance—than just to cover nakedness.

In the next paragraph, Mr. Slater makes an assertion that uncovering nakedness before others is condemned. By whom? Him? If so, where is the Biblical proof? I’m not convinced by this assertion at all. Then he goes on to say that uncovering nakedness is akin to interacting inappropriately with the Ark of the Covenant. Is Mr. Slater saying that being naked in front of others is to invite death? That’s what touching the Ark would do to you!

His next paragraph of arguments refers to sexual intercourse outside of marriage. Again, no argument on my part.

He then goes on to refer to Isaiah and Jesus’ nakedness. Let me ask this: if Isaiah walked naked for three years to portray the shame that would occur when Israel was conquered and stripped by her enemies, why would God allow men, women and children see him naked if it were wrong in all cases? The same goes for Jesus’ nakedness on the cross.

The rest of his arguments regarding art—since the article’s supposed to be about nudity in art—don’t require my response, since they reflect a Christian viewpoint I mostly agree with. I heartily agree with Mr. Slater’s comments against salacious and pornographic nakedness, in art, but I can also cite many instances in art and film where the nudity is appropriate and non-salacious, and suitable for even children to view.

The straw men Mr. Slater uses to condemn simple nudity are feeble, to be sure. He argues more from cultural bias than a Biblical viewpoint. Too bad—the article should have been more about art and less about personal prejudice.

raymond's picture

Not even Solomon's glory...

Thanks, Wordworker.

I enjoyed your thoughts.

Your thoughts reminded me of when Jesus told the poor not to worry about clothes. Jesus told them that the lilies of the field also don't seek clothes, and that not even Solomon in all his glory can match their beauty.

I'm saying a few nice words about God's own sculptures (us, the way He made us, nude). I guess I might sound like somebody advocating a nude world; but, I'm not. Far from it, actually. My only point is that God's own sculptures deserve praise and admiration.

Let's give God praise and endless admiration for His creation, even this fallen creation (even now better than we ourselves can even copy or design).

Woody's picture

I'll give Kudos too...

Because u mentioned that Jesus told the poor not to worry about clothes. I'd assume that means *period*. Even if genitals &/or female breasts can't possibly be covered. Clothed Christians? Nude swingers? Neither. That is, when poverty & Christianity collide. Then it's Christian nudism. What other choice would poor folk have? So *if* nudity is "not OK" socially, then it's "not OK" for a Christian nation to be a 3rd-world land. And 3rd-world poverty is likely not even their own fault!

Johnnz's picture

Wrong exegesis

The Creation story begins an account of God's purposes and desire for reconciliation with His creation, reaching its climax and fulfilment in Jesus. It is not about clothing and thus does not teach that nudity is shameful. After all, since Adam and Eve were the only couple can we conclude that it is wrong for husband and wife to see each other naked?

Mr Slater is in a cultural time warp. In past ages committed Christians have commissioned nude art, and much was done by Christian artists.

Modern Western society is intensely private. Separate bedrooms, a lockable bathroom, and much in the way of clothes were unknown in most of society outside of the upper class. The sight of the human body was therefore very common. Often, in large families children slept with their parents. They knew what married couples did in bed.

Have you ever considered what censorship would apply to a movie of the entire Bible?

Johnnz

Woody's picture

Kinda proves my point...

Very relevant. My post should help assure people that nudism is innocent, if truly by the right motives. I was going kinda tongue-in-cheek. The main thing I was doing was pulling out the narrow-minded Western statement "Nudity is trashy" & showing the absurdity of its meaning @ face-value. That's the best way I know to undermine it: use it's own meaning at face-value against it.
For anyone gymnophobic out there, please don't merely take one look & assume the worst possible! I recommend reading the posts by "Woody" and Kevin O'Malley before judging. Just a thought!

wordworker's picture

Thanks for the kind words...

You mention that you don't advocate a nude world, and you'd probably be surprised to know that nudists/naturists don't advicate one either. All we want is to practice what we believe without ridiculous and mean-spirited opposition -- as if the sight of a nude body would bring down the pillars of society. Were more prople of your mindset, we'd be able to live in clothed and unclothed harmony, appreciating the unclothed human body for what it is -- neither an object for ridicule, or lust. Kudos to you Raymond, for a truly open mind.

Tom

jochanaan's picture

Nudity and Shame

Several commenters have said that "Nudity is shameful." It is actually a shame that has to be taught. We've all seen young children who think nothing of running naked out of the bath, and many parents shake their heads and say "I can't keep clothes on that boy/girl!" :) It's only when children get a little older that they get shy about nakedness.

And why, since God made us naked in the beginning, would nudity suddenly become shameful to Him? Whose idea were clothes, anyway? They weren't God's. They were mankind's, after they listened to the serpent and ate the fruit.

So it's a bit of a stretch to say without qualification that nudity is shameful.

(Calvary wasn't the only time Jesus was casual about clothes. At the Last Supper He removed His garments--most modern translations specify His "outer clothing" but the KJV and Greek aren't so specific--and dried the disciples' feet with the towel He was wrapped in. How do you both use and wear a towel? Granted, maybe only the Twelve were in the room, but any maidservant might have come in at any time. Nor did He rebuke Peter for fishing in the nude in John 21.)

Blopez926's picture

nudity and shame

Yeah I know what you mean...I have undressed many of times in front of my girlfriends or my sister and mom...I dont think that condems you...I thnk that it is the fashion in which you are undressing...people get paid more money to take off there clothes...doesnt that say something...sex sells and why does it sell...because when you are a lost person...you are lost...but when you are set free from the bondage of sin...God will show you things and His way of thinking...He is trying to conform us to His image...Nudity was not shameful until they sinned by eating from the fuit...Just by not obeying God ...Not obeying God is a sin in itself.

Submariner's picture

This.

So, is nudity wrong or not? How can we make sense of nudity becomeing a shameful state because of the diety choices of these people in the past?

This leaf of a pretty serious and fundamental problem with the moral authority of the bible . Is it wrong because God says, or does God tell us not to do it because he sees that it is wrong?

Either morality is arbitrary or it has a source external to God. Both ideas have serious philosophical consequences, and neither really encourage much respect for Biblical morality.

Blopez926's picture

submariner

I do not watch movies with nudity in it...because i know it is wrong...if you know it is wrong you should not look. If it is your job as in medical, etc...then you have to be aware of your own feelings. no one knows if lust is going on in a persons heart. that is why God says to stay away from things that will tempt you and also to not keep counsil with the ungodly. He also says that people who cause others to sin will be accountable...so the people who choose to do nudity scenes will be held accountable, because it does cause people to sin, even though us humans dont have account of it.

It is wrong, and God doesnt approve of nudity scenes or strip clubs, etc...

Submariner's picture

Answer?

Is this supposed to answer my question?

Does my clothing block my heterogenous areas from god 's view?

What do you mean by "us humans dont have account of it"?

Blopez926's picture

shame

Yes, shame is natural when its wrong. Everyone has the feelinguntil they have ignoredit so much that it doesnt return anymore.

k46man's picture

Nudity

I've had a hard time discerning what's wrong with occasionally being undressed around my own mother or a female doctor. For example, yesterday my mother commented on how large my belly was getting, so I went to a bedroom, took my clothes off, weighed myself, then went out to the kitchen where she was and showed her my overall physique. I would feel silly covering myself since she has seen me naked many times before as a child, and several times as an adult. I also prefer going to female doctors who usually end up seeing me mostly or completely naked during exams. Otherwise, I'm very modest.

Blopez926's picture

The mother

My mom has never done that to me, I dont like it when my mother in law comments about my sister in laws bodieseither...its rude and she doesnt have any reason to talk. Otherwise, doctors are different...I usually feel comfortablewith the fact that they dont look at me in a longing way and are very helpful with embarressing questions.

KevinOMalley's picture

God's creation is perfect

Viewing nudity, being nude in front of others, thoughts of pornography, lustfully looking at naked art forms right or wrong the issue surely is a lot to digest and most definitely confusing to most Christians. First, let’s separate the issues here; you are trying to mix three or four in one and that’s shouldn’t be the case. How about taking on the issue of nakedness of the human body and nothing more and measure it up against the Bible, accurately. As a Christian and one who feels comfortable being a naturist I would like to address just a small aspect of this topic, extracting the pornography, the issues of wife’s, viewing nudity as art form and focus more specifically on the challenge of nudity from a scriptural point of view.

First of all God created us naked and He called it good. Let’s leave the fig leaf along for another topic, another blog. We were created nude and we will return nude, how perfect is that? Nowhere in the scripture does God condemn pure nudity. Now let’s take a closer look at the writer’s supporting arguments when he writes…

“Habakkuk associates "gazing" at someone's unclothed body as shameful. There's something about "gazing" at someone you're not married to that Scripture considers wrong.”

The verse correctly reads “Woe to him who makes his neighbors drink— you pour out your wrath and • make them drunk, in order to gaze at their nakedness!” Makes sense to me, don’t get your neighbor drunk so you can look at them with lust in your eyes! It’s not the nakedness here that is the issue. Jesus wonderfully explained about “lusting in your eyes” a few hundred years later, a good Sunday school lesson for someone perhaps, making the distinction between looking at something and lusting at the same thing. Again the issue Habakkuk is talking about is lusting not nakedness.

Now the writer brings out the big guns with his quote “Nakedness is associated with disgrace and shame Isaiah 47:3, Micah 1:11, Nahum 3:5, Revelation 3;18). When we see someone who is without clothing, we are not to admire their form, but to cover them (Isaiah 58:7, Ezekiel 58:7, Genesis 9:22-27 “

All the quoted scriptures above reflect a time when the Jew was being punished and nakedness is referred there as a spiritual nakedness of the Jew. It’s the same thing with his reference to Revelation 3:18, it’s a spiritual nakedness. It has nothing to do with nakedness; quit misusing scripture to fit your point!

There is more lusting going on in today’s world when men and women react to the way clothing is worn. When clothing is all taken away so is the lust for the most part. When many of you watched the movie Schindler’s list men and women where completely naked, everything was exposed, but how many of you had lust in your eyes when viewing that scene? Not many and if they did, they still have some issues to deal with.

Folks our Lord created something very beautiful after His own image and somehow along the way we humans have found a way to dishonor it. The naked body is beautiful and yes some folks still abuse it. But we did that, we destroyed the beauty that God Himself created for some through the lust of the eyes, drunkenness, gluttony and more while others have tried using their self righteous legalism to impose something that isn’t in the scriptures. Next time you take a shower stand naked before the mirror and give thanks to God for His creation and the beautiful job that He did. If you feel uncomfortable about that then I guess you and the Lord need to address the problem you have with His creation. We are commanded to give praise and thanks to Him who made all creation. Amen.

In His Love,

Kevin O'

Woody's picture

The means are indeed innocent

Kevin, well stated. But a prude against nudity could easily throw at you a comment like this:
"A good end is a good place to be; but the end doesn't justify ill means of getting there."
Before anyone can do that, I'll show that these are not ill means of getting there:
A fictional evangelist Demetrius Theophilus Philetus (DTP) lived in a fictional desert. The people surrounding him were as poor as he -- could afford neither clothes nor hut-building materials. No wonder nudism was in their culture; they had no way around it! Furthermore, DTP was a Christian, as were most of those around him.
And had the culture any prudish hang-ups about the human body, poor as the folks are, who could live one day w/o breaking the Matthew commandment "Do not worry what you shall wear..."?
If Scripture condemns social nudism as inherently sinful, think of all the poor DTP folk also condemned, all b/c what God perfectly created is "poor-nography". Such a philosophy that they must repent of their nudism would in turn imply that they, no matter how Christian, had best richen up & cover up on pain of hell's eternal perdition!
I doubt that poor folk like those, if Christians to the best of their ability, are S.O.L. like that. This is where Kevin OMalley's point comes in.
So who all still thinks that social nudism is the work of the devil NOW?

Rick's picture

Christian Nudism

to the comment of "God modeled this by clothing Adam and Eve. God did this because He deemed such a gift to be good; not giving such a gift would not be good; therefore it would be bad not to give such a gift; because this gift's purpose was to cover their unclothed bodies, it follows that it was bad for Adam and Eve to go around with unclothed bodies... When Adam told God that they were hiding from him because they were naked, did God say "oh me, you're right. let me fix that." No, he said "who told you that you are naked. Did you eat from the tree of knowledge?". God does not make mistakes. He intended for Adam and Eve to live nude. The reason he clothed them was because he was going to cast them out of Eden for their disobedience - and the rest of the world could be a harsh place to live.

It's no wonder that our (American) society wants everyone to believe that nudity is bad - the media glamorizes violence and everyone accepts what the media says is truth.

The Bible does not condemn nudity - lust is the sin.

Rick

Blopez926's picture

lust is the sin

yes lust is the sin but causing someone else to sin is a sin as well...so it is good to just be appropriate...the media is a part of satans plan...and he is doing a good job at that...but God's plan is still in effect...one day everyone will be judged...I am just glad that I will be judged by my works here on earth and not the sins that I have committed. Amen...blopez

raymond's picture

God made nudity

Remember when, in a discussion about divorce with religious leaders of His time, Jesus pointed to The Garden of Eden (saying that "in the beginning" divorce wasn't there)? In the Garden (before the Fall), clothes weren't around either.

I'm not trying to get a nudist society everywhere. I only want to suggest that we, in our nudity, are God's own sculpture; and, that that makes us (in our nudity) special.

And, now, What do you think about this?

Blopez926's picture

Genesis

"In reply to God made nudity"...In th Garden of Eden...God told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...when they rebelled...they became like the trinity and had knowldge of good and evil...they were ashamed of there nakedness and God made clothes for them. That alone should tell you that it is not a celebration...it is shameful for people to walk around with no clothes on...yes some societies that are not civilized still walk around half naked...but when missionaries come into their country to spread the Gospel they give them clothes to wear...We are not allowed to walk around naked...Unfortunately money is power...so Hollywood has it...I know it is hard to sacrifice some of those exciting movies to please God...but if people would stop searing their conscience...we would not be in this position today. Accountability is a difficult concept to grasp. When you want a new washer and dryer, do you buy the first thing that comes along, or do you do a little research to make sure you get your money's worth....its the same with movies...We should do our research to make sure we are feeding our souls with the right things. It will only hurt us in the long run.

raymond's picture

God's nude perfect plan

Thanks for responding, Blopez. It's not everyday that something we write receives such a thoughtful response.

Yes. Things are a terrible mess, now. We have war, cruelty, divorce on demand, murder, elective abortion , starvation in Dafur, shame: all, as a result of Adam's sin.

Something you said about money reminded me of a line in a song by our American, lyrical poet, Bob Dylan, when he said that "money doesn't just speak, it swears."

I was only noticing in my opinion that when Jesus was in a discussion with the religious leaders of His day regarding Divorce (which Moses, God's Lawgiver, allowed), Jesus then appealed to the perfection of the Garden. He said that "In the beginning, (divorce) wasn't so." His point, I guess, is that it may be allowed, but it isn't part of God's perfect plan from the beginning.

Nudity is like that. Clothes were the idea of the fallen Adam; and like many ideas of fallen humans, they (clothes, and war, and divorce and abortion) are allowed; but they do not represent God's perfect plan from the beginning.. Now, nakedness is shameful. I was just saying that that wasn't the way it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be that Adam and Eve saw each other, and "they were unashamed" (Genesis 3, I think). That unashamed nudity was God's perfect plan.

Anyway, I don't know what this world would do with nudity. Perhaps, it (the world) couldn't even run. Perhaps, it would slow down and crash. So, I'm not pushing for a nude world. It's a silly idea, in that it hasn't even a snowballs chance in fire. Period.

I'm only saying that we (in our nudity) are God's own sculpture; and that we are beyond beautiful and special and sacred. We cover God's own sculpture with our own "fashions", thinking that that makes us MORE attractive than God made us; and, we furthermore, call our covering of God's own sculpture with our own expensive stylings an act of our "modesty" (imagine covering God by our own designs and calling our actions acts of "modesty" --- that our fashions are preferable and better than God's own plan? Doesn't THAT sound more like pride to you, than modesty?).

Anyway, I agree that clothes, and war and divorce and shame are all here to stay.

I only hope that we might remember God's perfect plans, and praise Him for His perfect plans (including us: His own special sculptures).

Does that make any sense to you?

Blopez926's picture

perfect plan

Yes God did have a plan...The Garden was only part of it...there has always been good and evil...that is why he saved Noah and his family...but he destroyed everything in which he created because he say that there was only evil in there hearts continually....you are right about a lot of what you said. I believe there is a line to draw. Yes we can think in nakedness in many aspects...a naked baby is cute. a person that was raped and robbed of there clothing, is sad and you feel compassion...but when people show a casual undressing and a love scene...it is going right into the heart of the matter...those scenes are not meant to make you appreciate your own beauty...you can appreciate your beauty and your husband or wifes beauty but a movie star or an affair? I dont think so...Have you read about the laws of the Jews...where God says not to look upon anyones nakedness...it pretty long to get into but you should look it up...I think it is a really good thing to appreciate and admire your own body but not to the point of "relievingg yourself" if you know what I mean... I agree that God wanted thing to be different ...but part of his plan was that the snake was put there for a reason...it was kind of a test...ane we failed...so we should not lean unto our own understanding...we should trust and obey...thanks blopez

RichPasco's picture

God created human bodies as beautiful

We believe that God created this earth and all things on it. From beautiful sunsets, to breathtaking landscapes, the ocean and the majestic power that it displays in its waves, the universe and the billions of other planets that are out there, the amazing creatures that crawl, walk, run, swim or fly on this earth, we believe that these are all of God's creations. We believe that God's greatest creation by far, has been man. Therefore, why would we not want to honor and celebrate His greatest creation? If we found shame with the human body and were embarrassed by the sight of it, would we not also be finding shame and embarrassment in God and what He created? Knowing that God is good and that no evil can come from Him, we believe that if we find fault or shame in viewing the human body, than we are the ones who are evil.

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