What Saddam Hussein Can Teach Us About Liberals
Robert Ellis is a retired master sergeant in the Army Reserves who knew Saddam Hussein better than anyone else. For 8 months in his deployment at Camp Cropper near Baghdad, Robert was responsible for the health and well-being of the Army s high-value detainees depicted on the infamous deck of cards showing Iraq's Most Wanted. One of his charges was Saddam Hussein -- who was known by his code name, Victor.In Ellis’s new book, Caring for Victor: A U.S. Army Nurse and Saddam Hussein,” Ellis describes the complicated relationship he had with the dictator. Marianna Riley, who co-wrote the book with Ellis, notes that “as cruel and demonic Saddam Hussein may have been as a human being, Ellis was still able to make a connection and a bond with him, which is the focus of the book,” writes Don Corrigan in The Webster-Kirkwood Times, a local paper here in St. Louis, where Ellis is from.It was Ellis' job to “ensure all detainees received humane treatment."
“All of them," he says, "and that included Saddam Hussein.” Ellis checked Hussein’s blood pressure and listened to his complaints. As time went on, the two became “more friendly and spent time together,” writes Corrigan, which was encouraged by Ellis' commanding officers. As a result, Ellis – and subsequently, his co-author Riley – got a lesson in good vs. evil.“[Hussein] wasn’t evil 24/7,” says Ellis. “He did some good things. He provided free health care in his country.
He got an award from UNESCO for improving literacy. He introduced Western-style banking and women had some clout in the Iraqi communities.” As his co-author Riley states, “I’ve had to try to internalize the fact that good and evil can exist inside the same person.”
I bring this story to light because it offers great insight into the liberal mind. The idea that a person can be bad, or evil, or no good (pick your term) is lost on modern liberals.
Today's liberalism includes the belief that all people are intrinsically good. We are all essentially the same at heart. Thus, if someone (even Saddam Hussein) does bad things, it isn't because he's an inherently bad person. Rather, he's simply misguided -- or society put him in this unfortunate position. Such is the basis for all liberal thought. Conservatives, on the other hand, have no trouble reconciling the good/evil divide.
They don't see Hussein (or anyone else) as evil some of the time. If you're evil, you're evil. There's no 24/7 or 14/3 about it.Getting close to someone who's bad (remember Dead Man Walking?) is all fine and good. It's certainly a fascinating look (I enjoyed that movie) into human nature, and anyone who does get that close to evil will certainly see another side to the person. No doubt this experience would make it difficult to see the person as completely evil. Unfortunately, this has the unintended effect of "letting the person off the hook" -- which doesn't bode well for society.
What I liked about DMWalking was that Sean Penn still had to suffer his fate despite being loved and understood by someone prior to his demise. In too many courts today, being loved and understood translates to the guilty party being let back in to mainstream society to do more evil. Bottom line: There's a time and place to be tough -- when emotions shouldn't prevail. Saddam Hussein is a perfect example.













What Saddam Hussein Can Teach Us About Liberals
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"The idea that a person can be bad, or evil, or no good (pick your term) is lost on modern liberals. "
So true, I'm sure you can't find a single liberal who would call Hussein "evil." I'm sure you couldn't find one.
"Today's liberalism includes the belief that all people are intrinsically good."
Yeah, I hate that raging liberal Anne Frank ("despite everything, I believe that people are really good at heart"). When someone says something like that, almost no one literally means it. What most people mean is that the overwhelming majority of people are good at heart.
"Thus, if someone (even Saddam Hussein) does bad things, it isn't because he's an inherently bad person. Rather, he's simply misguided -- or society put him in this unfortunate position."
There are so many Saddam Hussein apologists. I mean no liberal will actually say that they excuse Hussein for his actions because of his life, but we all know they are thinking it!
"Conservatives, on the other hand, have no trouble reconciling the good/evil divide."
So, basically, conservatives had an idiotic approach and can't understand nuances and the weighing of actions. For example, if Saddam Hussein gave food to a starving child would conservatives call that action "evil"? The point is someone can still do good things, but their other actions are so evil that it outweighs whatever good they have done.
Suzanne Venker (whoever she is) has clearly never met a liberal. She's too busy listening to the absurd parodies of other conservatives pundits who have never had any sort of intellectual conversation with anyone who self-identifies themselves as "liberal"
- caelum
November 7, 2009 12:55PM
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Foolish rant
What is lost on what is loosely called "conservatives" these days is that "evil" is not unique to everyone except themselves.
Like the followers of Hitler, they are totally and completely blind to the possibility they are wrong and are themselves in the pursuit of evil. The kind of self honest necessary to avoid evil deeds is utterly lacking in their character, leaving them free to rationalize any and every atrocity under the sun. They are natural born cowards with no guts to choke down large doses of truth.
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November 7, 2009 2:06PM
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Why can't we flag 'experts'?
This person is basing their interpretation of Ellis' book on a movie?
Why is this post even on here?
I mean, if anyone has got a qualified opinion on this point, it's they guy Venker is trying to criticize for being open minded, tolerant and a professional.
Seriously, OV, get rid of this one, please.
- Submariner November 8, 2009 2:47AM
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black and white views
Another winner here Ms. Venker... Sadam Hussein did terrible things, but he was still a member of the human race . He did not wake up in the morning and kick puppies on the way to the bathroom.
It is possible to see someone as human, to recognize that they are the product of an environment and of their choices (and not some daemonic monster) and still recognize that they are a danger to society .
Sadam Hussein did horrible things, but he was still someones son ... someones husband, someones father... the sun shone just was warmly on his face as it does on ours.
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November 8, 2009 6:42AM
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good? evil?
How the whole liberal/conservative issue came about in this article was a stretch. No one is inherently good or evil but rather always capable of both .That whole duality thing.The good vs evil issue doesn't come all bundled up in a neat little package,that's good, that's bad.When potential of good /evil becomes choice and action that is where consequences come into play.So the concept of whether a person is inherently good or evil is somewhat irrelevant. We are inherently both.And this probably makes as much sense as this article
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If we are calling Suzanne Venker
an expert or authority here then we must call Humpity Dumpity a gymnastic.
- politicalair August 6, 2010 8:07PM
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