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Vulgar Gay Jesus Play "Corpus Christi" Comes to Texas University
On Saturday, March 27, Tarleton State University in Texas will host a performance of "Corpus Christi," the Terrence McNally play that was the subject of a major street demonstration launched by the Catholic League in 1998 when it opened in New York City.
Catholic League president Bill Donohue explains his position:
There are three things wrong about this event: (a) the play is hate speech directed at Christians and is far more than just a "gay Jesus" play (b) it is being shown at a state university, and (c) it is being performed on the eve of Palm Sunday.
I saw the play, led the demonstration against it, and debated its supporters when it came out in 1998. Jesus is depicted as the "King of the Queers" who says to the apostles, "F--- your mother, F--- your father, F--- God." The apostle Philip asks Jesus (called Joshua in the play) to perform oral sex on him, and at the end of the play Jesus condemns a priest for condemning homosexuality. Crotch grabbing, simulated urination, etc. color the performance. No wonder even the gay-friendly New York Times slammed it as an artistic bomb.
Tarleton is funded by the taxpayers, most of whom are Christians. That they should have to underwrite hate speech against their religion, on the brink of Holy Week, is not an accident—it is a deliberate act of provocation. No doubt this same university would put aside free speech concerns if students wanted to erect a nativity scene on campus, or sing "Ave Maria" at a university event. They only seem to invoke academic freedom when it suits their ideological agenda.
It's up to the employees and students at Tarleton State to register a protest. Texas taxpayers, and Texas lawmakers who appropriate funds to the university, also have a right to have their voice heard.











Comments
Oh Come Off It!
Bill Donohue, admit it: your goal is to Christianize America and turn it into a theocracy. You don't give a rat's rear end about anything else.
BD, you're a joke. I'm surprised anyone takes you seriously. Of course, what should I expect from such a hardcore member of the religious institution that is solely responsible for overpopulation in this world? Find something worthwhile to complain about, like how people of your ilk are rejecting true science in favor of junk science, and do something about it.
It ain't the Catholics
Most of the people you are referring to are not Catholics, but fundamentalist Protestants. I am Protestant, but form my experience, Catholics favor religious freedom and theistic evolution as opposed to pure creationism . The Vatican even says that scientific fact is fact, but that God is still the driving force behind it all. Catholics are not theonomistic. People like Pat Robertson and John Hagee are the ones you should be worrying about.
Right you are!
Catholics are generally open minded (usually after they are forced to be, but open minded nonetheless) and theistic evolution is an option.
The Fundalmentalists are well versed in Bible as a book of law . However, they usually fail to have a full grasp of the culture of the people (in the Bible) and the customs of the times, not to mention that they seldom allow for translation differences, ie. Hebrew : all male family members are often called brothers ; Greek: there are 5 distinct kinds of love, English translation (by the very nature of our language) love is love period - no clarity.
Jesus tells his disciples and all people not to eat pork .....because they were dying from it, it was not being cooked enough so better to just avoid it. These are simple examples ...but each passages presents different examples.
However, this play, if only performed in the classroom, presents no harm. If predented to the general public, then it is a disgrace ...it is no longer a learning tool. Either way, I believe that either the professor and the student director have drummed up much publicity (wanted) and this is not in keeping with the tradition of learning, or some disgruntled (probably fundamentalist) student wanted to make a point, using this as a catalyst, that is very unfair of such a student. Either way, the one who garners the publicity should be duly reprimanded.
Can't neglect the facts...
...the Bible talks about Jesus an his disciples, not so much of women around him. Women if the appear in the Bible have already some issues, to say it friendly, which makes me think what sane woman would join this religions: Judaism, Islam or Christianity?
Besides that the Bible has been changed a hundred times like it or not and the Bible is definitely neither a book of truth or a book of history .
I myself thing students should be allowed to mock, to question or even insult. Of course we can't play all political correct and drop 300 million tons of bombs like in Vietnam or just bomb and ambush people.
Morality? Ask yourself!
Agenda
"They only seem to invoke academic freedom when it suits their ideological agenda."
And just what might that agenda be....truth about historical past perhaps?...Now there's a novel agenda.
The religious right might want to try "truth " for a change in place of fantasy stories about people rising from the dead.
Good for one, good for none?
This makes me think of cartoons of Mohammed. There was also previous outrage over the artistic presentation known as "Piss Christ" with a cross plus Jesus in a supposed beaker of urine. Either society says enough is enough and stops disrespecting all faiths, or it accepts various presentations of all faiths. By the way, do we really know whether Mary was a virgin? The word that some people use to translate the Hebrew Almah in Isaiah 7:14 is "virgin" in some Christian translations (notably the Giddy Gideons), but not in others. In the original text, the absolute legal usage of Hebrew for "virgin" was bethulah. A maiden need not be a virgin. Further, the alleged prophetic text in Isaiah can never properly be supported as truly prophetic of a coming Messiah of the Christian persuasion. In the final analysis, it is okay to make fun of any man (Moses, Mohammed, and Jesus).
Hey, cropdoc...
Since you asked me to explain...
As has been explained to you, " hate speech " (as opposed to hateful speech ) pertains to speech likely to incite violence . Now, given the history of the Catholic Church (and those under its aegis) imprisoning, castrating, torturing, and burning to death men suspected of homosexual acts, one might debate whether, historically speaking, Romans qualifies or not. But honestly, I'd love to have you explain how the statement "Jesus was gay " qualifies as hate speech. You're afraid gaybashers are going to attack him, or what? You may find it offensive, but, dude, turn the other cheek. Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
As far as " freedom of speech"...that, in First Amendment terms, applies only to the GOVERNMENT censoring things. If the Tarleton town council or the Texas college board or the like shut the play down, that would violate the Constitution. Got it? Otherwise, the First Amendment is irrelevant. I do believe, in any case. that artistic expression is more important than the statements of a blowhard publicity-hound like Grand Inquisitor Donohue.
You might note that, unlike Donohue and his ilk, most LGBT people are fervent free-speech advocates. Take the case of the Westboro Baptist Church, which regularly parades around with swell signs like "God Hates F*gs." To the best of my knowledge, gay groups have not gone to court to stop them from simply spewing garbage. It was only when they started picketing funerals and harassing mourners that they were hauled into court.
And I cannot believe, nor can you show me, an instance when a student was prevented from praying in Jesus' name UNLESS it was at a college-sponsored event. In that case, the college has no business using public funds to endorse a particular religious viewpoint. You don't like it? Take it up with the Supreme Court.
Face it...you're offended because someone said your supposed savior is gay. You think it's an insult. But that's because you're, well, probably anti-gay, no? I'm gay, and if someone says that I am, I don't think it's an insult. It's just true, same as "Saint Paul was a mean-spirited authoritarian with primitive ideas about human sexuality."
Oh, and when you say "situations," you're presumably referring to a KKK-endorsed event that was openly racist ? Hey, I'd say THAT tarnished the reputation of at least some of the Tarleton community.
Listen, there's just as much hard and fast, non-hearsay evidence that Jesus was gay as that he was the Son of God, no more, no less. Live with it.
Hate?
Gee...how does that feel?
The first three are off point
You are off point. This is a stunt to gain publicity by the director of the play and by the professor of the class in an attempt to throw this in the 'locals' face after other situations on campus in the last few years. It has cost the university in support , both monetary and volunteer, and will forever harm the image of the institution. For those of you which say this is freedom of speech , explain to me how quoting Romans 1:18 to the end of the chapter is hate speech versus free speech while this is free speech versus hate speech. Further, explain to me how someone is prevented from praying in Jesus name at this institution and this is allowed. Freedom of speech, I don' think so. These statements are all factual and can be proven true.
Really?
The director is a student in the class. YOU are off point on claiming to know anyone's intentions. Oh wait, you're right. Tarleton just loves controversy. We relish in it. It's great to see us plastered on the news for stupid crap that people blow up. Here are some factual statements for you; 1.) It's a class assignment. Now let me clarify, no one assigned a Christ bashing play. It was assigned that the STUDENTS pick, direct, set up, and act in a play that they want and it will be graded by the professor on how well it was done. 2.) It is NOT open to the public. There was never a box office for this play. 3.) There is NO political statement on the timing, it's called midterms. If you still think there is some sort of conspiracy then just go sit in a closet with your tinfoil hat.
Chill Out....
I'm a student at Tarleton and I'm sick of all the things that are being said about my University and all the stuff going on about this play. It is NOT open to the public, the University is NOT putting this on. It is a class project and is being performed by certain members of the class for other members of the class and their families (if they even choose to attend). How this even got out to the public is beyond me but there is no reason for this to be getting near as much attention as it is.
One man's "hate speech"...
Sorry, but a vulgar description of a (putatively) historical figure does not constitute " hate speech " against Christians .
Hey, your very own Pope cited, without condemnation, a characterization of aspects of Islam as "evil and inhuman." Hate speech ? When Benedict calls LGBT people "obstacles to peace" who share responsibility for global warming , is THAT hate speech? After all, there's a much higher likelihood of papally-inspired loonies attacking gays or Muslims than anyone trashing a church based on the play in question.
The VAtican has, through the millennia, sought to clamp it's velvet-clad fist down on dissent and freedom of thought, both within and without the church. What you're talking about is NOT hate speech. It's what's generally defined as "blasphemy." And though Islamic fundamentalists are attempting to push through worldwide laws against offensive speech about religion , though Ireland is doing the same, the USA isn't a theocracy, and your Jesus is not perforce everybody's sacred, um, cow.
It's also interesting that the Catholic League OPPOSES the extension of hate crime laws to LGBT people. I guess that it's OK to persecute gays in the name of Christ? So you don't actually condemn hate speech, apparently, unless you're the supposed target. Typical.
simmer down.....
it is my understanding that this is a directorial student 's assignment, not an official production of the Tarleton drama department and not open to the general public.
You're welcome to your outrage, but you are much more likely to simply gin up interest in the play that it would never have otherwise received.
I should note, however, that you do not seem to have a good understanding of First Amendment law . Being a taxpayer does not give you, or anyone else, veto power over student speech at a public university. Yes, individual students would be just as able to voice views of you would approve in similar circumstances.
Characterizing this play as " hate speech " is an interesting tactic, but, in the end, a very weak argument. Hate speech is intended or likely to evoke violence against those targeted. I sincerely doubt that either of those things are the case here. I certainly have seen no evidence of such intent or likelihood here. Something that is simply a diametrically opposed view is not "hate speech." And that's not even the case here. The playwright intended it to further acceptance and tolerance, something that many Christians see as central to their faith.