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Pit Bulls 6 Times More Likely to Attack Their Owners
Yep, you heard that right, six times more likely to attack their owners than any other breed. The Pit Disloyalty Phenomenon (PDP) has been known by the Dog Lobby for almost 25 years...The HSUS published an article analyzing Pit attacks in 1987.
"Out of 143 Pit Bull attacks, 19 (13.3%) involved attacks on the owners; out of 135 attacks by other breeds' only 3 (2.2%) involved the owner." http://www.scribd.com/doc/16267151/Are-Pit-Bulls-Different-An-Analysis-of-the-Pit-Bull-Terrier-Controversy-by-Randall-Lockwood-and-Kate-Rindy
This recent case covers a lot of territory with the pit apologists. First it shows that an owner was attacked by her loving and not abused pit bull. This was not a case of an irresponsible owner. Not only was the owner attacked in a most vicious way, but the pit continued "going pit" when the medical help and police arrived and had to be shot. There is a gruesome description of the scene in this link:http://waukesha.patch.com/articles/waukesha-man-jumps-fence-to-help-neighbor-in-dog-attack And this link shows Prince, the attacking pit bull, at the door, covered in his owner's blood, as though he was waiting for his fur mommy to let him in. Just another day for the genetics of the pit bulls. http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/124687014.html?page=4&viewAll=1#comments
Two year old Prince the pit bull, along with his mother, Sugar (7 yrs) just moved into 9,500 sq. ft home last November along with their owners. The home is owned by Michael T and Jennifer Holliman . They moved into a nice neighborhood in Waukesha, Wisconsin which, in 2006, Money magazine ranked 36th on its list of the "100 Best Places to Live", in the United States. The yard is enclosed by a 3.5 foot picket fence. Prince could easily scale it.
Both pit bulls were loved family pets according to family members. Prince and Sugar were evidently pretty quiet because some neighbors weren't aware dogs were living there. However, there was one incident on June 12 in which one of the dogs got loose and chased a child.
A neighbor with a baseball bat came to the owner's rescue, probably saved her life, and got bitten and needed hospital care himself. The owner's injuries required a flight for life helicopter.
One of the officer reports states that chunks of the victim/owner's flesh were found on the ground and the dogs were described as being in a frenzy.
When Prince looked like he was going to redirect a second time, police shot him as he was scaling the picket fence and a sedated Sugar was taken to the shelter.On Tuesday, while fur mommy was putting Sugar in her kennel, Prince began to attack Sugar and then redirected onto his fur mommy. And didn't stop.
The neighbors do not want Sugar to come back to the neighborhood. The neighbors are extremely lucky that when this well cared for family pet "turned on" at that magic age of two years old, he flexed his genetic muscle in a big way, and attacked his owner rather than some innocent neighbors.
Six days later another attack on an owner.
http://www.kait8.com/story/15030077/woman-seriously-hurt-when-her-own-pit-bull-attacked
JONESBORO, AR (KAIT) – A Jonesboro woman is in critical condition at St. Bernards Medical Center after police say she was attacked by her own dog. According to the police report, the woman's pit bull apparently started fighting with another pit bull inside the home.
This is nothing new. Here is a case where a pit owner lost both of her arms in an attack by her own dog. These attacks are common place yet the pit apologists continue to talk in terms of the pit bull's loyalty factor. These attacks speak differently. http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/5037546.html
An Abilene-area woman remains hospitalized Friday in stable condition after both of her arms were amputated following an attack by one of her pit bulls.
A word of caution to those who own pit bulls, be afraid, be very afraid. Thanks to www.cravendesires.blogspot.com and Snack Size Dog for their contribution to this piece.
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Yes they should ban pit bulls across america
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I have a pit bull at home and
I have a pit bull at home and he's the most loving dog I've ever had. Sure pit-bulls tend to be aggressive and whatnot but all dogs are sometimes. I bet that if you look at every breed they have almost as many attacks on their records as pit-bulls do. People tend to group together on issues they don't like and not really pay attention to straight facts. Sure there have been attacks but that's not going to make me get rid of my dog :p
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I can't argue with logic like
I can't argue with logic like that.
Mucker, they are sweet until
Mucker, they are sweet until they go "pit" and rip your face off or kill your child. Every attack is followed by those words, "they've never been aggressive before". WHAT? BS on the attacks from other breeds, if you combine them maybe, but for one breed, no frigging way. And God gave us a brain, you need to start using yours, he doesn't like it when you don't.
I swear you pit bull
I swear you pit bull advocates just cut and paste the same old tired responses. You guys in your denial of the breeds traits are only out done by cult members. I've own large and giant breeds for 25 years and never when they have had scrapes injured an animal the way a pitbull can. You show me the articles describing other dog breeds that grab by the throat, rip off limbs and disembowel their victim like a pit bull is capable of. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5c6_1320712260
It WAS one of the top places
It WAS one of the top places in the US till the Hollimans moved in with their damn pit bulls.
Candice, did you not read
Candice, did you not read where Gremlin said he/she would not tell someone how wonderful Mastiffs are but rather would tell people not to own one. You completely overlooked that. Whereas you, in your responsible way, are telling people how wonderful pits are. Don't compare yourself to Gremlin, you are not responsible in the same way.
My issue is that many people
My issue is that many people who promote the pitbull breed tend to sugar coat what the breed is about, or can be without proper training, socialization, and supervision. I would not tell someone how wonderful Mastiff's are. I will give them every reason not to own one as they are not the breed for everyone and neither is the pitbull. One of my Mastiff's is a Dogue de Bordeaux. Well known for having same sex agression issues. Both Dogue's I've had never attacked another dog, but they wouldn't back down from a fight and I wouldn't trust them being with the same sex unsupervised.
that's exactly where
that's exactly where responsible ownership come to light. you are a responsible owner like myself. neither of us would leave our dogs alone because of something that is a possibility. if you wouldn't leave your dog alone with another dog then i would hazard a guess that there is no way that you would leave your dog alone in a room with a child either? it's all about responsible ownership. any strong minded and strong willed dog is not for everyone. i tell people all the time that if they work long hours, have little energy and have little patience thewn they need to find another breed of dog besides a rott, pit, mastiff.
This is where the disconnect
This is where the disconnect occurs. If certain breeds require additional efforts to be brought to an acceptable safety level, then you have conceded they are more dangerous. It is simple. Yes, you can often trace pit bull attacks to a human issue, but the question to ask is why aren't irresponsibly owned labs attacking at anywhere near the same rate. Your argument could be used exactly by someone who wants to justify keeping a tiger in a populated area. They would claim all tiger incidences are caused by human irresponsibility, and therefore tigers are not inherently more dangerous than house cats and it is wrong to treat the ownership of tigers differently in terms of regulation. Try it. Use your arguments in favor of tiger ownership. You will find it fits perfectly. Therefore, your thinking is flawed. You will not get these simple points, or argue against them poorly, because it is in your interest not to understand this. Other dog breeds make better choices than fighting breeds. Just be honest. Most people that have these dogs are not responsible at all or believe the whitewash from supposed breed experts. With your approach, there is no way to avoid pit bull attacks, other than trusting the untrustworthy. You would likely consider maulings too few in number to warrant attention. Well maulings, especially of pets, by pits are common enough that attention is on you. You are just like tiger owners. Like them, most other people likely consider you eccentric and misguided, but are too polite to say so to your face.
Dubv, you are so cool!!
Dubv, you are so cool!! Here's something for ya.
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Here's my opinion. When you
Here's my opinion. When you own a breed that can inflict the kind of damage that the pitbull can, there can never be an "accident"(or uinfortunate incident as many pitbull lovers like to call them). We are responsible to ensure the public and other animals are not hurt/killed by the breeds we chose to own. A common mantra of the pitbull lover is "blame the owner, not the breed". Okay, so why don't we encourage laws to change that any attack by any dog that inflicts serious injury and/or death of a human OR another animal, that the owner(s) be charged with a felony.
i would have to agree with
i would have to agree with you. i would never call a dog attack "an unfortunate incident". if my dogs EVER show any signs of aggressions (and because i am experienced with ALL breeds of dogs) i know the signs to look for), i would put them down myself. i will not have an animal that doesn't obey me (well except my cats they mind no one lol). i make sure that my dogs are well trained and well socialized. my female pit is very hyper but i make sure that she is exercised daily to prevent her from getting frusrated with all the pent up energy. all i am saying is that all dogs should be able to have an outlet for their energy. mine go on a run with me every day so they get to see new things experience nature, and get rid of the pent up energy. everyone in my neighborhood loves the dogs and sometimes i have a running partner join me with their dogs as well and there is never a problem. i also agree with you that owners should be held responsible with their dogs. if that were the case then i would hazard a guess that there would be less dog attacks because then maybe owners would be me responsible.
Oh yes, as if I haven't heard
Oh yes, as if I haven't heard from every pit nutter about how educated they are, or they are a vet tech, or a dog trainer, yes, we have heard all of those "myths". So educated but yet look at your response, small "i", misspelling (rotteriller, is that like Roto Rooter?). We all know that "educated" people would never forgo checking links supplied by the opposition because "educated" people know that you should always know what your opposition says and thinks even more than what your supporters know and think. Yet, you don't want to go to my links because you consider them "opinions" and how would you know that unless you check them out? Sorry, Candy ol' girl, but it doesn't hold water. Did you even bother to read where the study this article is based upon comes from? I didn't make it up. If you want to argue a point, then show some proof that pits aren't 6 times more likely to attack their owner. You fit the picture, own it.
i did a great deal of
i did a great deal of research on the pros and cons of owning a pit before i got the dogs. and since i got the dogs as well i believe that it is only an informed opinion if you look at both sides before comitting to an opinion. everyone has their own opinion about nearly everything. and sweetie there is such a thing as a typo i type very fast so yes i am bound to make errors. from time to time if a typo is something that you consider to be erronous then yes i am guilty. in college i have spellcheck for all my documents that i type so that catches my errors. i can honestly say that i have an informed opinion because i have (and continue) to look at both sides of the argument. i did check out some of your links to ensure that i had both sides of the argument. our opinions differ lets leave it at that. lol
No you didn't or you wouldn't
No you didn't or you wouldn't have a pit bull with your children. You don't know an informed opinion if it were to bite you on your arse. I type 100 wpm and you don't see me making the pitiful mistakes you make, HON.
You'll have to excuse NBY.
You'll have to excuse NBY. He is completely consumed by his irrational hatred for an artificial classification of dog.
There is no point in wasting your time entertaining his fantastical 'opinions.' If you want to know what he is about to say, you can simply go to any "pitbull"-hating website and drink deeply of their malice.
It is the same thing, only when reading their sites, you aren't being disparaged and insulted...
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lol @Solar Sanitizer. His
lol @Solar Sanitizer. His insults do not bother me sweetie (hope that doesn't offend you but i am southern) lol. i just think it is very sad that a person has to resort to name calling and actually failing to admit any truth. If you are a fan of pit bulls please feel free to contact me as i can give you any website you like about how gerat the pit bull breed is. not trying to insult your intelligence or anything but there are more out there than i thought there were lol
Oh, you are soooo cute aren't
Oh, you are soooo cute aren't you? Let the criminals, perverts, dog fighters come right to your door, invite them in, Candice. These are the "fans" of your beloved breed. What's the matter, Candice, you are scared to learn the truth, is that why you don't want to go to my links? Thought so.
lol are you saying that i am
lol are you saying that i am a criminal, pervert, and/or dog fighter? i am an educated woman who has an opinion that differs from yours. for the record i am a highly educated woman who happens to own 2 of a breed that you despise. police officers (i happen to know of 5 in my city alone), congressmen and women, models and former models and many different people in all walks of life own this wonderful breed. keep in mind there are people who own the dogs to appear tough, however i am not one of them. to some people (i guess they could be called degenerates) owning a pit bull, doberman, or rotteriller makes them look tough. people like that are the one who misues the breed and are small minded individuals. i feel pity for people like that but i am secure in who i am and have no need to appear tough. i don't need to "appear" to be anything because of who i am and who i am is fine with me and many people who know me and contact me (although i would rather they not sometimes) lol.
I see they let you out
I see they let you out finally, Solar, but I don't think it was for good behavior. Amazing how you keep coming back when it is sooooo obvious you have lost the battle, but then again, what does one expect from a pit nutter, just like the pit, they just keep on coming. Guess that's the reason why law enforcement is forced to shoot so many of them. That's another list, wanna compare notes again, Flameout?
How can so much hate fit into
How can so much hate fit into such a little mind?
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You couldn't understand
You couldn't understand because you don't give a damn about the damages pits are doing. Can you say throwback, write that on your back, it fits.
wow as i stated in my last
wow as i stated in my last post to you i don't see how anyone could not be upset about an innocent chid dying. however, i am of the firm belief that if it has teeth there is a chance it will bite so i am not irresponsible enough to leave a newborn baby in a room with ANY animal without supervision. i am also not irresponsible enough to say that i have control over my dogs. they obey me out of love and respect because i am the one that feeds them and protects them. i am not some pathetic waste of existance that has a "strong dog" so i can feel tough. i have my dogs and cats (and i have a tibetan mastiff) and they all get along. the dogs all go out with me (leashed of course) when i run every morning and every night. they don't fight (well except my female killed a snake the other day) but they don't fight amongst themselves. we all live in peace and harmony (till the cat gets an attitude then she sets them all straight). if they are such killers then please explain to me how we can all get along in a peacefull environment? i care about people more than i do animals naturally. i hate to hear about anyone getting attacked by any dog. yet i refuse to give up my dogs who have never hurt anyone.
i believe that it is a small
i believe that it is a small minded person who is consumed by hate, they let their hate blind them to reality and form their opinions on their thoughts and not on reality. i am the proud owner of 2 pit bulls. i have a male that has been with me since he was born and a female that was a rescue. i would also like to point out that the female is a blue and she is scared of my cat (and the cows that the cat stalks) my femlae is great with the cats, kids, and adults but we have to be careful around her she will beat u with her tail lol
So I take it, Candice, that
So I take it, Candice, that you could care less about the damages that pits are doing, anyone in their right mind would "hate" what they are doing. Then again, since when are pit nutters in a right mind? Proud?? No, that is the wrong word, crazy, selfish, ignorant, are more like it. As always, every nutter has a pit that is scared of it's own shadow, yeah, right, and my s**t don't stink. The very least you nutters could do is come up with some new lines instead of boring us with the old ones.
do i hate when an animal
do i hate when an animal attacks? naturally because to me human life is more important than any animals. Nutter? sweetie i am a psychiatrist and it is my professional opinion that you are simply uninformed. my dogs are not afraid of shadows but i do have a female who is afraid of cows and knows better than to cross the cat (the cat is viscious i have seen her come home with rabbits that are as big as her). this is no ordinary cat and yes the cat is viscious. i never once claimed that my dogs wouldn't fight if it was necessary. my male attacked a dog that was trying to bite me but all he did was pin the dog down by its throat and when i told him to stop he did. i have seen many cases of unstable dogs. there are pits in the world that are viscious. i never said thy weren't. but i can say with honesty that mine are not like that. i have had one of my dogs get bitten by a little girl i was babysitting yes i said the CHILD bit the DOG. and the dog did nothing even though the dog was bleeding. trust my dogs? yes because i am aware that the only one i can control is me so i leave nothing to chance. with ANY animal or person around my kids. my children have been raised around dogs. that's chows, pits, rotts, dobermans, and little dogs too. so my kids know how to train dogs and how to respect them and they get love in return. my youngest son even taught my female pit how to hug lol. do i think my dogs would ever bite a human? i know they would if me or my kids were ever threatened. but i would never let it go that far. see i am more dangerous than my dogs i have a gun and know how to use it but i am not irresponsible with it either.you sitting behind a computer screen calling me crazy is of no consequence to me. but by all means please continue after all it is America and freedom of speech rules (no one said it had to be intelligent) as your typing has proven to all who read
Oh please, a psychiatrist????
Oh please, a psychiatrist???? What a hoot!! You can't even spell, much less have graduated from college. "Viscious", you can't even spell what pit bulls are, how can I expect you to know. You can't run with the big dogs, HON, so get out of the race.
lol ok so i added an extra
lol ok so i added an extra "i" oops. lol my mistake. HON? if you are gonna use the vernacular then at least get it right. it's HUN lol. big dogs? not likely sweetie. the fact that you don't believe that i am a college graduate doesn't make it any less true. keep in mind this is the same as your opinions about pit bulls. you have made my point for me thanks so much for that.
Well HON, what extra "i"? You
Well HON, what extra "i"? You can't see that "viscious" is totally incorrect and it isn't an extra "i". If you were indeed a shrink, you would know the meaning of using small "i" for yourself. It means you are an insecure, unsure, pitiful person who thinks very little of themselves. I have provided links now you need to do the same. I love all of this ranting from you because it keeps this story in the forefront. You are doing me a favor and can't even figure it out.
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lol ok so I am typing so fact
lol ok so I am typing so fact that i hit the i and o button at the same time it happens a lot when a person switches between a laptop and a desktop computer. sorry to disappoint you but I have posted several links to back up my opinion and if you bother to read them all then you will see. and before you start your psychoanalysis on me remember that commenting here is not an English essay. lol. I have posted the links for you to copy and paste to discover where pits are being used as search and rescue dogs, therapy dogs, and also K9 officers. try to keep up sweetie i do not like to repeat myself. it is redundant
You've posted nothing but the
You've posted nothing but the propaganda posted on nutter websites. I want links, credible links. Either come up with those links or go take a seat in the back of the room.
Excuses, excuses, excuses,
Excuses, excuses, excuses, that's the only experience you have. Here read up on all your excuses. http://maultalk.wordpress.com/
Then when you finished do some more educating, make yourself an honest person. http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/there-are-three-kinds-of-lies-lies.html
All you are doing is spewing the propaganda, you're not talking from experience, if so then the story would be different.
When did "links" start to
When did "links" start to equal knowledge? Because I don't choose to copy and paste a bunch of links I have no knowledge...what planet are you from? Oh boy you have a degree in copy and paste obviously you are so much more intelligent than me lol :) No proof of where my opinion came from??? I only told you 4 times now that it came from working with pit bulls...I'm not going to base a single opinion on ANY topic based on media sources. Unlike you I'm not the type of person that needs to prove I'm right and others are wrong...for the 100th time now I was only sharing my experiences I was not stating pit bull supporters are "right" and non supporters are "wrong" YOU need to educate yourself and learn to chill out. I'll probably read about you in the headlines having a stroke or heart attack from all the stress you've accumulated from arguing with people about pit bulls before you hear the headline of my pit bulls attacking me. But if you do you can give me a great big "I told you so"...just don't hold your breath :) And please do yourself a favor and just stop replying to me...you are just looking sad. It's so hypocritical that you should state that all pit bull apologists spout the same "crap" yet here you are like a broken record stating everything I'VE heard a million times. And when did I state you couldn't make comparisons? Go right ahead...it just helps if they are valid.
Should have read "pits" for
Should have read "pits" for fifty years. You have no knowledge obviously, you provide no links, no proof of where you got your "opinion" from. Post those links of the "service dogs", and I will tear those up and spit them out. You also point out where I said that pits were bred to kill humans, never happened. They were bred to kill, period. If a human happens to get in the way, well, we know the story, it happens all too often. What's the matter, you can make comparisions but I can't? We'll read about you in the headlines sooner or later. In the meantime, educate yourself and make yourself an honest person at www.dogsbite.ORG
What is ludicrous is your
What is ludicrous is your denial with all the facts in front of you, that's what is ludicrous. If you did have experience with pits, you would see them in the same light as I do, because I do have experience with them. Take your head out of the sand and read this article, it helps to do that before making comments.
I'm not denying any "facts"
I'm not denying any "facts" in front of me. Have I ever stated that I don't believe there are pit bulls out there that have displayed atrocious acts of aggression...NO! I just don't believe that you can judge an entire group of dogs based on the behavior of a handful of them (compared to population). Your the one that needs to READ before making comments and quit making assumptions. I am an individual and you are treating my comments as though I am every other person you have spouted your mouth off at. I have no reason to lie about my experience...I do not belong to some pit bull rights organization, I was just sharing my personal pit bull experiences in response to your article. I don't believe pit bulls are superior or I'm a superior dog owner...I actually grew up with labs, but I don't believe in spreading hate of ANY breed. I've been bitten by 3 American Eskimos over the years but I would never hate the entire breed or try to convince others to do the same. And I would never use internet articles of which I knew nothing to try to prove ANY point I was making. You had several "facts" wrong in just the Waukesha case so are you telling me that you know for a FACT that EVERY word in EVERY article you've sited is FACT???? I'd love to see you in a court case for anything...do you just show up with a folder of "stories" from other people and submit them as FACTS or evidence??? You are a joke! You'd be laughed at even in a HIGH SCHOOL class giving a persuasive speech with your antics. I could come up with a good case for supporting racism by what you did but it sure doesn't make it FACT or RIGHT for that matter. And what exactly is your personal experience with pit bulls??? Does it equal 10 years of working with, training, and owning them???
Then we don't need to be
Then we don't need to be judging those who drink and drive, do we? They are a small part of the population too. The point you seem to conveniently overlook is that pits are highly unpredictable. You judge a dog that has been bred for one thing and only one thing, to kill. Do you judge a retriever by the fact it's instinct is to retrieve? Or do you take a chihuahua when you go hunting? You have totally ignored who wrote that pits are 6 times more likely, you have totally ignored the pleas made for the pit apologists to provide links to show that pits don't do this, you have totally ignored the links showing how often pits attack their owners. Ten years, try fifty years and when you have that many years in working with pets, then come back and say the same crap. You won't be able to. Drinking that koolaid won't sober you up or would you prefer to remain a drunk?
I've had 10 years working
I've had 10 years working with pit bulls not just 10 years working with animals...there you go with your assumptions again. And fifty years working with "pets" is not fifty years working with pit bulls. AGAIN if you would read what I've stated I will not post links of which I have no 1st hand knowledge of nor will I waste time reading them. And AGAIN I have not denied that there are pit bull attacks. Several times you have argued with me over things I even agreed with you on so who's the one not reading. I have not ignored anything you have said, YOU are the one that has "conveniently" chose to overlook several of the questions and points I have brought up including the fact that you're not even getting the information right and calling it a FACT. I COULD go and posts links of pit bulls working as therapy dogs, service dogs, working in search and rescue work, and stories about them saving their owners in danger, fires, etc. but we both know that would be a waste of both our time. What you don't understand is I'm not trying to WIN an arguement like you are...FOR THE THIRD TIME YOU WERE POSTING A PUBLIC BLOG AND I WAS ONLY SHARING MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH THESE DOGS. And your last two arguements...WEAK :) Drunk drivers compared to pits that might just be the best one I've heard yet. Driving drunk is a CHOICE there is no comparison. And the second...please tell me when in history pit bulls were bred to "kill" humans.
I am assuming that you have
I am assuming that you have an extensive background in canine behavior that is the basis of your "opinion"??? Oh wait or are you just another jackass that learned to copy and paste Internet articles??? When your referring to pit bulls what breed are you actually referring to? Are you specifically speaking of American Pit Bull Terriers or are you basing your whole opinion on an appearance of a dog. In that case do you also believe in racial profiling? Bite statistics are unreliable and inaccurate especially when concerning pits due to the fact mentioned above that pit bull is NOT a breed it's a physical description of a dog. Many "pits" DNA tested don't contain a single breed generally included under the term. I worked at a vet clinic for 4 years where the wisdom panel was used in DNA testing as well as having one of my own "pit bulls" tested. He came back as genetically mostly Boston Terrier and Weimaraner with traces of Great Dane and West Highland Terrier in his ancestry. Many of these dogs are misidentified in the news because the person identifying the breed has no canine background or is guessing breed based on the dogs "appearance". Bite stats are also unreliable when in comparing to other breeds because the most common human biters (small breed dogs) are seldom reported because they generally do not require a hospital visit. You are also going to have a higher number of dog bites when you are talking about dogs that have a higher population than any other...common sense. Many of the cases you brought up also identify the "attack" starting with a fight between dogs. Owners are getting bit as a result of redirected aggression NOT human aggression. The owners are putting themselves into an extremely dangerous situation and neither dog at this point is identifying human body part over dogs or owner from stranger. And of course the owners are more likely to get bit in these situations...they are the ones trying to break up the fight! In the Waukesha case you actually are incorrect as the attacked woman was NOT the owner...she was the mother of the owner and was given instruction to not let the male out of his crate. And who is to determine this was a responsible owner? In my opinion they told the mother not to let the dog out of the crate because they were aware of the fact that he had aggression issues...in that case they are not responsible pit bull owners. Responsible pit bull owners do not keep human aggressive dogs or work with trainers and canine behaviorists to correct the issue. If the owners knew about his aggression and chose to do nothing, he was NOT well cared for and the owners were negligent not responsible. I've temperament tested a large number of pit bulls as well as other breeds working as a kennel supervisor and humane officer over 8 years. In all that time I didn't have one pit bull that didn't pass testing. I did however have Labs and Lab mixes, German Shepherd mixes, and a Boston Terrier that didn't pass testing. The dogs that had the most restrictions on them as far as going to homes with children and the possibility of biting were small breed dogs. This holds true with the American Temperament Test Society as well-86% of American Pit Bull Terriers passed testing, rating even higher than Golden Retrievers. I now work for a doggie daycare and we have a large number of pit bulls that come for daycare and boarding at our facility. We haven't had a single issue with any one of them, one is even a certified therapy dog. The dogs we have dismissed for aggression concerns include, 2 German Shepherds, a Golden Retriever, a Golden Retriever mix, an American Bulldog, and an English Bulldog. I just don't understand people like you...why do you hate these dogs so much that you feel the need to wage a crusade of ignorance against them??? Do you have any 1st hand accounts of "pit bull" aggression or are you just brainwashed by the media??? I base my opinion on facts and 10 years of experience as a kennel supervisor, humane officer, vet assistant, and canine obedience instructer...how about you???
well i can tell this has to
well i can tell this has to be your site or you just comment a lot. i see you say you have worked with dogs for ten year like me i use to work for the MSPCA out of Massachusetts. and i have been reading your comments to people and bud if you worked with these animals like you say you have you would be out here trying to educate people instead of cutting them down and making them feel stupid. yeah pit-bulls can be great dogs i even own one but all comes down to who trained them what they were trained for and what you expect them to do. I work training these dogs and all kinds of them. Their are a lot of things people could do to control their pets yes most of it is up to the owners to take care of these things. like to start with dog chains to many people don't understand how strong some of these dogs really are. hell i have seen and read and been shown movies and everything else these dogs pull sleds up to 4000bls. think about that pulling on a small chain goodbye chain hello dog right so this should tell people right up they need to make sure the chain they use it strong enough to hold these dogs for one two they need to make sure whatever they have holding this chain wont break or pull out. another thing is we have dog leash laws people in every state people you need to learn to fallow them. you dog should be on a leash where ever you take your dog or dogs. people you should know where your dog is at all times just like if you had a little child it is your responsibly to know where your child is due to if your child gets found outside unattended by the police or state the state can take your child for neglect well i feel it should work the same way with dogs or other animals. i am pro pit so i am for the dogs ok. just laws need to change. i worked with dogs for ten years to and i agree that the media and TV and the radio. just blow things way out of port portion. I also know dog behavior and aggression and obedience and we use to do temperament test too. people these dogs can be great dogs and anyone who has worked with them knows this. the problem lies when you train them to fight to guard or to attack rabbits chicken and small prey once they get these things installed in them this is where the problem progresses hell the military trains them to search for thing to attack if needed to grab and rip the police use them basically for the same reason then we have the security Agencies and the people who train them to attack and kill and bite and rip and these are the worst kinds of dogs. even though they can make good house pets to it is all in the dog and how they were trained and i cant stress this anymore. training is very important with all dogs any dog can bite or attack. this guy or lady who wrote this comment before mine knows what they are talking about just reading what they are tell you all tells me they have some knowledge of what they are saying and i use the http://atts.org/ American Temperament Test Society i also use a few others i could go on forever with this but owners have to start stepping up and making sure their dogs are either in the house in a confined place or to be tied up with safe chains and supports that hold the chain. we could stop a lot of the attacks and bites if people would just take care of their dogs like they take care of their kids and if you don't have kids and you have a dog then they are your kid yeah maybe they have a little fur but they make great companions. thanks for your time their a lot of good heated people out here and most of us who worked with animals are willing to help the public like me i am sure you could even ask the educatedpitowner on this page. or if you would like you can get a hold of me or one of my admins my site is Stop Pit-bull Bans on Facebook thank you for your time Michael Messina founder of Stop Pitbull Bans out of Manchester New Hampshire
You base your opinion on
You base your opinion on whatever your puppetmasters tell you. Here, we've compiled all your propaganda in an easy to read form. http://maultalk.wordpress.com/
You don't even know enough about the ATTS to make an argument. http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/there-are-three-kinds-of-lies-lies.html
Cut and paste doesn't alter the facts, try as you may. Read Maul Talk, see if you can come up with any new ones.
You are seriously hilarious
You are seriously hilarious and pathetic. Puppetmasters...really?? I hate to burst your little bubble but I have no puppetmaster. I don't sit on my computer for hours on end compiling links to argue my point or finding bogus stories and articles to validate my viewpoint. All I'm saying is that at least my opinion is based on experience with hundreds of pit bulls. And I'm not the average "I have a pit bull so everyone should love them arguing my point". I'm coming from the point of view of someone that's educated in canines and canine behavior that's all I'm trying to get across. No one crams down my throat that I should love or fight for pit bulls or gives me a rehearsed speech on what to say about them...it's MY opinion based on MY experience. I'm not going to copy and paste stories of which I had no part or 1st hand knowledge of. It's a ridiculous way of trying to argue a viewpoint. So based on your response I assume NO you have no 1st hand accounts of pit bull aggression??? Have you even ever met one?
And please take note that
And please take note that nothing I wrote was stated as fact...I wrote specifically on my own experiences with pit bulls. This is why I find it so humorous that you should say my opinion is based on a "puppetmaster". If anyone is writing based on someone elses prospective it might just be the person using "we", basing their whole arguement off of hearsay and second hand accounts. Siting internet articles as FACT is ludicrous.
yeah cuhley70! i think you
yeah cuhley70! i think you are the first to blame the victim. good job, you go girl!
All I can say is WOW. I am
All I can say is WOW. I am friends with the owners of Prince and Sugar. They were not bad dogs nor bad owners. Pit bulls are not bad dogs. Any dog can attack anyone at any time. Also, the media didn't even tell the whole,correct story. I was here, I saw it. The grandmother, who just moved into the house, was yelling and stomping her feet at Prince. Prince saw her as a threat. She was also told not to let the dogs out of their kennels when the owners were not home. Why she did, who knows. There were not chuncks of flesh all over the floor, just blood. The neighbor was not there with a baseball bat. The dogs were calm when he came. Prince was not scaling the fence which is 4 1/2 feet. The Waukesha police cornered him and shot him 4 times in the head with a rifle. Sugar was not attacking the grandmother. She was licking the blood off of her and attacking Prince to make him stop. It amazes me that this story has gone this far. When my neighbors dog was mauled by a lab, no one did anything. And that lab ripped his neck open and was an 1/8 of an inch away from his jugular. When I was attacked on my bike by a spaniel, no one made this much of a mess. I have personally seen the wounds on the grandma and yes they are bad but, it wasn't a mauling. Personally, I would not get a pit bull because they are not my breed. I have GSD's. But lay off these pit bulls. Do you know there are more attacks by labs than pits but, because of pit locks down they are in the media. A pit is a very good hunting dog because of their sense of smell. They are excellent family pets. Remember the Little Rascals
vet opinions HUGH WIRTH,
vet opinions
HUGH WIRTH, veterinarian RSPCA Victoria president Dr Hugh Wirth said the dogs were a menace and were not suitable as pets for anyone.
"They are time bombs waiting for the right circumstances.''
"The American pit bull terrier is lethal because it was a breed that was developed purely for dog fighting, in other words killing the opposition.
"They should never have been allowed into the country. They are an absolute menace."
“The fact of life is that the community doesn't want American pit bull terriers. They've said it loud and clear over and over again - they want them banned.”
NICHOLAS DODMAN, BVMS, ACVB, ACVA Rottweilers were originally bred to guard the money of peasants returning home from the city of Rottweil in Germany, so their fierceness was prized. Staffordshire bull terriers and pit bulls were programmed to deliver a full crushing bite to the noses of bulls. "They're locked and loaded," as Dodman puts it.
on breed profiling But Dodman defends the practice. "The insurance companies have no ax to grind," he says. They base their decisions on actuarial statistics showing that certain breeds in certain homes are a recipe for trouble and the cause of lawsuits.
KATHERINE HOUPT, VMD, PhD, DACVB Says Katherine Houpt, director of the Animal Behavior Clinic at Cornell and author of Domestic Animal Behavior: "Different breeds have genetic predispositions to certain kinds of behavior, though that can be influenced by how they are raised. The pit bull is an innately aggressive breed, often owned by someone who wants an aggressive dog, so they're going to encourage it."
“I have seen so many pit bulls taken by very nice, very dog-savvy people who did all the right things,” said Houpt. “They take them to socialization class, they take them to obedience school, they are fine for a few years, and then they kill the neighbor’s dog.”
BONNIE V. BEAVER, BS, DVM, MS, DACVB, Professor and Chief of Medicine, Department of Small Animal Medicine and Surgery, College of Veterinary Medicine, Texas A&M University Executive Director, American College of Veterinary Behaviorists
By its origin, a pit bull is a fighting dog that takes very little stimulous to initiate aggression, and it will continue to fight regardless of what happens.
Pit bulldogs have been responsible for about 70 percent of the deaths of humans killed by dogs since 1979.
The AVMA warns veterinarians to be careful about supplying behavioural evaluations of dogs for insurance purposes.
"It's risky for veterinarians," said Dr. Beaver, explaining that there are many situations in which a dog may behave aggressively, and temperament tests can't rule out the possibility of aggression. "You don't have temperament tests that can identify all possibilities."
MICHAEL W. FOX, veterinarian, animal behaviorist "I spent 20 years studying the behavior of dogs and it's not in their nature. Man, has created a monster, If you wish...These dogs were selectively bred to fight, they have greater propensity to fight than other animals, which is brought out in training."
"They can attack people, and because the attitudes of Pit Bulls it is more likely they will attack people. The worry is the power of the dogs jaw...to bite and not let go. It's quite sufficient to crush right through a child's arm or leg."
http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/2011/04/experts.html