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Student Andrea Hernandez Expelled for Refusing to Wear Location Tracking RFID Badge
Andrea Hernandez is being expelled from John Jay High School in San Antonio, Texas on November 26th, for refusing to wear a RFID tracking ID badge, according to a letter sent by the school district to her parents, which has been made public.
The letter, sent on November 13, states that the Smart ID program is now in “full implementation” and requires all students to comply, reports Infowars.com.
The ID badge includes the photo and name of each student, a barcode linked to the student’s social security number and an RFID chip which pinpoints the location of the student, including after hours and when the student leaves campus.
Hernandez, backed by her family, says the policy violates her religious beliefs and infringes on her privacy.
Since Hernandez has refused to wear the badge, she will have to attend William Howard Taft High School, which is not currently involved in the ID plan.
Civil liberties lawyers at the Rutherford Institute told Infowars.com that they are going to file a temporary restraining order petition to prevent the school from kicking Hernandez out.
In response to public outcry and pressure from rights groups, John Jay High School has offered to remove the battery and chip, but wouldn’t budge on the ID.
The offer would also require the Hernandez family to end their public criticism and agree to support the policy, something Andrea’s father Steve Hernandez finds unacceptable.
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Loss of freedom is usually at
Loss of freedom is usually at the liberal behest of "protecting the masses" from some perceived concern. Minimal liquid possession while flying, no guns allowed in movie theaters/amusement parks, airport scanning, prohibition of mailed packages over 13 ounces...these are the result of perceived/real threats and yet they all completely inconvenience the honest citizen.
In an effort (covert) to protect the citizens of America, freedoms are disappearing...once gone, they will NOT be given back. Read all about this "mark" perpetrated on an unsuspecting populace in The Plant by Jude Goss...it has begun and no matter we might want to back this up, it will not happen.
God protect us all!
Last I knew the "patriot act"
Last I knew the "patriot act" was a bipartisan effort, and one of our biggest losses of privacy ever passed in congress. Blaming "liberals" is a read herring.
Liberals want protect things like freedom of choice, freedom to vote, freedom to marry, etc. Seems like your particular definition of "freedom" is very limited.
CRW, The "definition of
CRW,
The "definition of 'freedom'" is actually in our founding documents and perhaps you find this "very limited"? NO OTHER freedoms are worthy of protection! The liberal freedoms (except voting) you mention are God-less and NOT found in our history...therefore shouldn't exist nor hold any real meaning for true Americas.
And let's not get in a discussion of "separation of church and state"...that too has been "rewritten" by the liberal revisionist history and con- texturally inaccurate. God Bless!
Maybe you should look at the
Maybe you should look at the Ninth amendment.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
The literalist argument about rights and freedoms fails right here.
You should also read the case law on some individual freedoms. Your restricted interpretation of what is a protected "right," is a typical conservative's approach to rights and freedoms. The constitution has always been interpreted over time to expand and protect individual freedoms. Please google the phrase "tyranny of the majority." Your moralistic judgment over some groups in our country definitely falls under this category.
God-less? You bet. You should also read the Treaty of Tripoli written by some of our founding fathers:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
It is obvious that you are a theocrat who has misunderstood the constitution and what the word "freedom" means.
CRW, God is all over our
CRW,
God is all over our founding documents, our governmental buildings, our money, legal documents, and in our courts of law...AND our "unalienable rights" come from God as in "endowed by our Creator".
Enough said...WE ARE a Judeo-Christian nation and as such we view the world differently than secular countries do. Try messing with that and watch God's answer...I don't wish that on anyone.
God Bless!
Funny... the words "god" and
Funny... the words "god" and "creator" are conspicuously absent from the constitution. Since this is the charter upon which our government has been built you would think it should be there if our GOVERNMENT were to reflect the RELIGIOUS beliefs of the people. If anything, the only two mentions of religion are what you cannot do with it - government cannot establish a religion or interfere with the free practice, and no religious test can be used for office. Constitutionally, our charter of government talks only about barriers between government and religion.
Our GOVERNMENT is deliberately secular. The founding fathers saw the issues with combining the monarchy with the church of England, they saw the problems in France with catholic leaders who had as much power as the monarchy, and they saw in general how religion and government could not mix.
There is no dominant form of any religion in the US. The biggest denomination is catholicism, and it is a little less than 25% of the US population. 75% of the US identifies as some form of christian and 25% does not. However, it is very fair to say that the Amish, the Mormons, the Catholics, the Mennonites, the Quakers, the Shakers, the Baptists, and the Lutherans have very significant differences on what it means to be a christian. The first amendment and the no religious test clause in Article VI are brilliant because they protect the rights of the people to keep these differences while preventing government from picking a side in the debate.
"Judeo-christian" is such a generic statement as to be almost meaningless. Your appeal to "biblical" ideals is exactly what our government must prevent from happening in our laws and the actions of the government.
With respect to "god's answer," my response is "which version?" Hence, this is why our GOVERNMENT is SECULAR, and not "judeo-christian." Individuals have the right to worship or not to worship as they see fit. Government must remain deliberately neutral.
I believe that when she says
I believe that when she says liberal, she is not talking about political affiliation. I'm pretty sure she's referring to the classic definition of liberal.
Poor Carol. Your persistence
Poor Carol. Your persistence in displaying your stupidity is the envy of all of the remaining card carrying republicans.
So, you are upset that you, while boarding an airplane, are now unable to carry enough shampoo to wash the hair on every head in the city of Nashville.
Boo Hoo.
Of course you, in your world of religious fantasy, are unaware of the fact that there is evidence of plots to blow up aircraft using chemicals that would be mixed while aboard aircraft. Or, that a man tried to carry a bomb in his shoe. Does any of this spark a memory? No?
Is voter suppression a fantasy, too? You republican wacko's are still trying to pull that stuff off. It took a law called, "The Voter Rights Act", to stop it. I can understand the fact that republicans find it next to impossible to win an election, based purely on ideas. Your ideas are all bad.
And,guns? Why Carol, "luvz um." She keeps one under her pillow next to her bible.
Let's all take our gun to the movies! Never mind the body count that would result if a fire fight broke out in a crowded movie theatre. What an ending to your 73rd viewing of the, "Last Temptation of Christ."
Carol, you may want to get yourself tested for lead paint poisoning. You show ALL of the symptoms.
All that is left of the republican party are the very, very rich, the racists, and those, like Carol, stupid enough to vote republican and against their own best interests.
So, in closing, Carol, all of those rules that you hate are ALL designed to protect the rest of us from PEOPLE LIKE YOU!
Mr. Moorehead, Personally, I
Mr. Moorehead,
Personally, I like waving with all 5 fingers, so "hi" and God Bless!
@Carol - Those of your ilk
@Carol - Those of your ilk only deserve that singular finger. However...Hey, everyone! Carol has just demonstrated her ability to count to 5!
Judging by the content of her numerous posts, we all find that fact amazing.
BTW. That, "god bless", crap..... evidently he left you OUT of his blessings. He didn't give you the good sense to stop demonstrating your boundless simple mindedness. Have you no friends that could perform an intervention? No? Well, then, how about an exorcism?
I really don't know why I
I really don't know why I continue to be amazed at the way you so easily distort things.
Loss of freedoms from LIBERAL reactions to perceived concern (which I assume you mean perceived threats)? Were you conscious during the George W. Bush administration?
First, the article does not
First, the article does not mention GPS. RFID cannot track someone unless they pass an RFID reader. Students should be required to wear a school ID visible anytime they are on the grounds, just like the staff are.
The RFID chips make it easier to record when the student arrived in school, and where they went (assuming there is a reader at all doors). RFID cannot "track" the students in teal time even in the building. RFID would make it easier to get books from the library, allow students easier access to some services, and help keep students out of off limits areas.
IF the students were required to take their ID's home (which they would need to do to get back in school the next day) No one could track them with the RFID outside. You have to have a reader, and the reader would need to look for specific info on the chip. SO even if a student went somewhere else that used RFID, IF the chip got hit by a reader, the reader would disregard any info from the chip because the student info would be nonsense to the reader because it would be looking for different info. It would be like trying to use your electronic motel key in a credit card reader.
Thanks for the additional
Thanks for the additional info.
This particular school may
This particular school may not track their students whereabouts other than when on school grounds, but some schools do. According to an article on the Huffington Post, a school system in California has initiated a pilot program utilizing GPS tracking to monitor children with attendance problems. Students are required to enter a code to track their locations five times a day: "as they leave for school, when they arrive at school, at lunchtime, when they leave school and at 8pm." Is it the school's business to know where a child is in the morning prior to school or where they are at 8pm at night? If anyone were going to lo-jack a child, shouldn't it be the parent? After all, they are the ones ultimately responsible to ensure their child attends school.
The school mentioned in this article could replace the RFID chips with scanners outside each classroom. Wouldn't this be as reliable a monitor of class attendance as the cards with the RFID chips? Students could pass their RFID card to someone else, leave it lying in the restroom, cafeteria, courtyard, in a desk, etc, so it's not as if this system is a foolproof monitor.
According to Salon.com, some schools are using tracking devices and CCTV to improve students’ eating habits. While the issue of childhood obesity is certainly a serious one, is this the best way to go about addressing it? They can't visually assess a child to determine if there is a problem severe enough to require intervention? Is it the school's place to intervene? When they determine by spying on a child that he or she isn't eating healthy, what are they going to do to deal with the issue? Take the food away? Issues such as this require intervention with regard to better understanding of healthier eating guidelines, but more importantly, it requires examining and addressing the psychosocial reasons behind childhood (and adult) obesity issues.
Even if one agrees with RFID or GPS monitoring while children are in school, there are those programs who carry it further. A school system in Illinois is attaching GPS locators to students’ backpacks in order to “locate kids in seconds” both in and out of school. The electronic reader registers date, time and location of kids. Why out of school? It's one thing to allow parents to "opt-in" to this type of surveillance, but to make it mandatory?
The potential for abuse with this type of monitoring is massive and inappropriate incidents in some areas of the country have already occurred. If their primary goal is to more closely monitor attendance, then there have to be less invasive ways. If their aim is to locate the child should he or she fail to show up for class, what will they do once they become aware the child is not in school? Bodily drag them back to class? Unless they are deemed by law to be truant, can they even do that? Wouldn't it then be a problem for the courts and the police? In my opinion, this type of invasive monitoring is a lazy and very intrusive way to attempt to solve some of the school's problems. Most children do not need to submit to this level of scrutiny.
While children may not hold most of their own rights, their parents do. I can't say I'd permit my child to accept the school or anyone else having the ability to track their whereabouts when they were not at work/school. I would want them to understand that typically, whenever you surrender some portion of your personal liberty, it is rare to regain control of it. The more we surrender, the more people attempt to require that we surrender.
These badges have nothing to
These badges have nothing to do with safety and everything to do with indoctrinating children into accepting that they will be tagged and tracked like cattle their whole life. These badges provide zero additional safety on campus. They are often stolen or lost.
Let's insert some TRUTH here!
Let's insert some TRUTH here! This high school does NOT require any student to wear this ID when they are off school property, after school hours or on weekends. Nearly every public high school in the US issues ID badges and refuses to allow any minor on their school grounds without this ID or an official guest pass. The only difference is the Radio frequency chip, which is already in millions of US employees corporate badges. School administrators, like employers, don't care where students are or what they are doing when they are off school property & not responsible for them. They are required to know where their registered students are during school hours. Children have limited constitutional rights, but if any parent objects they are free to send their kids to another public school with different rules. Legally, American children are entitled to public education. They have never been entitled to select which public school they will attend. No student is entitled to break school rules without consequences, like loss of privledges. Why should any student who is refusing to obey school rules & being expelled be allowed to vote or participate in ANY school functions?
Do not buy in on this "mark of the Beast" or Big Brother paranoia. The badges in this school, like in every school, is for the safety & protection of both the students & the school. Per the Huffington Post: "If successful, the tracking program could save the district as much as $175,000 lost daily to low attendance figures, which in part determine school funding. Higher attendance could lead to more state funding in the neighborhood of $1.7 million."
Students are NOT having chips inserted into them, nor do they have to carry these badges outside of school property. I had ID badges at High School, college and at every corporation I have worked. Without my badge I couldn't open a door anywhere in my workplace. I leave my office badge in my car, but not out of fear that my employer or anyone else wants to tracking it. If Americans want to panic about privacy, why aren't they objecting to the GPS devices in their cars & cellphones? Adults would do better to focus on their own privacy rights.
I'm fine with students
I'm fine with students needing IDs. The limited rights and big brother points I can agree with. I worry about how hackable the system is, or could be. I'm a strong believer that any lock can be picked. I do also worry about automatic location settings, it's one of the internet's worst ideas. There was that app that auto located singles in the area using GPS along with the single person's complete profile. That app was unsuccessfully when foursquare, Facebook, and twitter all contacted the maker and rewrote their terms and services. That app was a rapists best friend. Men don't think like that since they are generally bigger, stronger, and raped less often.
Gem, You stated that the
Gem,
You stated that the badges wouldn't have to be worn while off campus but I disagree. They could not be left in the lockers at school because, as you state, "without my badge I couldn't open a door anywhere" which I assume includes getting IN to the building.
Second, how could knowing the location of a student save a district $175K a day? I really don't understand how that is possible.
"Second, how could knowing
"Second, how could knowing the location of a student save a district $175K a day? I really don't understand how that is possible."
Schools get funding based on daily attendance. More kids in school, more money. The only location they need to know is if the kid is there or not, not specifically where the kids are.
Having gone to high school
Having gone to high school pushing 40 years ago, I can't remember if we had student IDs of any type then. If we did, they certainly weren't photo IDs; and the most definitely had no RFID in them. We had photo IDs in college, as I recall; but, again, no RFID. And we didn't have to wear them; keeping them in the wallet was good enough.
That -- the RFID -- is really the most repugnant part, of course. I'm not sure that having to wear the ID is too terribly problematic, but I can see why many would think it is; better in the wallet or purse, I think (though it's okay, in my opinion, that it be required at least there). There should be, though, no RFID, no matter what...
...or, if there is RFID, then it should simply be for something like attendance-taking, maybe, and that's it. It should definitely not be for determining the students' whereabouts at all times. And the RFID part could still work for attendance-taking purposes even if the ID were in a wallet or purse (assuming it wasn't in one of those stupd "as seen on TV" aluminum wallets, I suppose).
Of course, the problem with RFID is that not everyone -- and, goshdarnit, it always seems to be those who want RFID who are part of "not everyone" -- subscribes to the old maxim, "just because one CAN do a thing doesn't necessarily mean that one should." Once the RFID is in the ID in the wallet or purse (or being worn), even if the wearer was promised that it would only be used for such-and-such kinda' okay purpose, said purpose somehow, over time, gets expanded -- usually without the wearer's consent -- to that which is no longer okay. Give an inch, take a mile, and all that. So, RFID, generally speaking, is a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned...
...and that's coming from someone who's been in high-tech for pushing four decades!
I take the Rutherford Institute's email newsletter mostly for the same reason that I take several other Right-winged diatribes -- including even the idiot David Horowitz's "Frontpage Mag" -- not because I agree with any of them, of course; but, rather, because, as I've always both said and written: One must always keep-up with and know what the enemy is writing and planning. Though I usually follow it up with "...I HATE it when that happens," I occasionally do find myself in agreement with at least the Rutherford Institute, as I do on this one: Someone needs to get in there and protect this kid's civil rights!
Gregg L. DesElms
Napa, California USA
gregg at greggdeselms dot com
Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi.
Veritas nimium altercando amittitur.
The purpose of wearing your
The purpose of wearing your picture ID on the outside is to show that you have a legitimate purpose for being in the school or workplace. You are no longer allowed to just wander aimlessly in schools.
You can't really expand the purpose of RFID, since you cannot use it to track people like GPS, contrary to popular belief. The scanners and the chips are very limited in range. TO read one, you pretty much need to be close enough to touch the person wearing it.
This is a hacker- child
This is a hacker- child molester's dream come true.
I wouldn't be OK with wearing that, either. Shows that this high schooler is at least more computer smart, and safety smart than the adults.
How so? You can't track
How so? You can't track someone with RFID in real time, and not anyone can get to the reader database. If a molester were close enough to read the RFID chip in a kid's ID, then he could just go ahead and snatch them. There are much easier ways to glean the population of a school than trying to hack their RFID database.
Shows this kid just wants to start trouble.
Selling protection
Selling protection (insurance, background checks, anti-virus, security) is a big business.
Most of the incidents that people will bring up as reasons to use this are rare things that happened halfway across the country. National crime statistics show that crime is at a 30 year low.
We never needed student IDs, even in a wallet like a drivers license, years ago when crime was much higher, why needed now? Is crime up near the school to warrant this?
Question Authority, Anarchy & Assumptions
This isn't so much of a
This isn't so much of a "number of the beast" issue as it is a privacy issue. Hopefully, the school has published a privacy policy that clearly describes what data is being collected, how the data is protected, and who can see the data. If they haven't, they're hiding something.
They could also issue electromagnetically opaque sleeves that the students could put the badges in when they're not in school. Of course, a microwave treatment is quicker and cheaper.
My kids have always had to
My kids have always had to wear the ID cards on a lanyard while in our local high school. No RFID chip, but pretty much the same thing. It is a good safety measure.
Wear the badge all the time -
Wear the badge all the time - wrapped in aluminum foil.
And if it makes an accidental trip through the microwave...
Is there any valid source/reporting on this event, besides the conspiracy site infowars?
Both parties here sound dumb.
Both parties here sound dumb. What religious belief forbids you from wearing an id? The tracking thing is a bit absurd especially considering it operates even after school. But if they remove the tracking chip, there is no problem with them needing to wear id's.
It could be viewed as a
It could be viewed as a precursor to the mark of the beast (see Revelations 13).
The Bible does not describe a
The Bible does not describe a precursor. Either you believe it as written or you do not.