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Call for Boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day Over Gun Policy
An anti-gun group is attempting to organize a nationwide Valentine's Day boycott of Starbucks over the coffee chain's gun policy.
Starbucks does not ban guns in its stores; rather, it defers to local laws. The National Gun Victim's Action Council (NGAC) says that amounts to a pro-gun policy that endangers customers.
"Starbucks allowing guns to be carried in thousands of their stores significantly increases everyone's risk of being a victim of gun violence," NGAC CEO Elliot Fineman said in a news release. "Open and conceal and carry are among the reasons there are 12,000 gun homicides each year in the U.S. If we had England's gun laws we would expect 375 gun homicides each year—97% less than we have. England's gun laws are based on protecting public safety, ours on maximizing sales for the gun industry."
The Starbucks policy hit the headlines in 2010 when gun owners decided to exercise their rights at national chains. Many responded by banning guns, but Starbucks refused. At the time Starbucks explained:
While we deeply respect the views of all our customers, Starbucks long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged. We comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve. That means we abide by the laws that permit open carry in 43 U.S. states. Where these laws don’t exist, openly carrying weapons in our stores is prohibited. The political, policy and legal debates around these issues belong in the legislatures and courts, not in our stores.
But NGAC's Fineman said it is just a bad policy, and hopes its boycott can change it.
"Starbucks steadfast support of the NRA's lethal pro-gun agenda damages its 'socially conscious company' brand," he said.
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Being able to arm yourself
Being able to arm yourself with a weapon in the U.S. is a constitutional right and it was put there for a reason.
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Brady Campaign Making
Brady Campaign Making Statistics One Defenseless Victim at a Time
The Brady Camp, and anti gun nuts in general, are creating dead, beaten and raped victims every day in this country. They do this by convincing YOU that by YOU not carrying a gun to defend yourself that somehow you are contributing to reducing crime. But, are YOU a criminal? If YOU carried a gun would you suddenly lose your mind and go on a killing rampage?
The Brady camp knows that there are violent criminals out there. And they know if these criminals somehow target YOUR family like they do so many others in this country that YOU will be defenseless by listening to their rhetoric and their false statistics.
Are YOU naive enough and ignorant enough to give YOUR life up, and your families lives up, to some crack head criminal who doesn't care in the least if he bashes in your sons skull or rapes your daughter and butchers her afterward....just to win points with the Brady camp nuts?
Is YOUR family so worthless to you that you will let some man like Paul Helmke tell YOU that you can't be trusted with a tool to defend your family from these predators?
Why do you let Brady tell you how YOU will behave if you own a gun? Why do you let them allow YOU to let YOUR family be unprotected just so THEY can spew out feel good rhetoric so even bigger idiots than you will continue to support them?
What does Brady lose or gain if YOU listen to their idiocy and YOUR wife is raped when she could have saved herself by simply having a gun ?
See what happens when a woman has a gun? See this video: Woman kills her returning rapist with shotgun No gun = a raped woman. Gun = unraped woman and a dead ass rapist.
No one wants to admit that the Brady camp MAKES dead victims. They CREATE raped women. They FACILITATE defenseless prey who are beaten, raped, robbed, stabbed, shot....murdered.
And they do it because YOU let them because YOU are too much of a hive mind drone that you can't think and reason for yourself. Do you think Paul Helke gives a rats rear about YOUR wife...YOUR son...YOUR daughter? No...he doesnt.
All the Brady Camp cares about is making sure YOU are DEFENSELESS. To them if you are murdered...if your wife is savagely raped and beaten to death....if you son is ripped apart by some lunatic with a knife, all Brady sees is that you are one more statistic. Gun rights groups are fighting for YOUR RIGHT to DEFEND yourself even if YOU don't presently understand that fact. Gun rights advocates want YOU to have the POWER to PROTECT yourself...your wife...your daughters and your sons...even if you cant accept that fact. You may call us gun nuts. You may think we are paranoid. But the fact is that there are millions of defenseless victims in the USA every year. Will your wife be one of them tomorrow? Will your family? You may not think so but crime happens every day...and it happens to someone just like you and me. Will YOU be next? And if you are can you do anything to stop it? Honestly?
The more I hear about
The more I hear about Starbucks, the more I like it. First they think how they can help the communities that made them huge in the first place (microfinance loans), and then they decide that they want to respect our constitutional rights.
For the record, I'd much rather go to them for a business loan than any bank not intelligent or capable of surviving on its own steam when times are tough. They may not have done as well as they had previously, but never needed interest free loans from the public...
Valentine's Day is a
Valentine's Day is a assemblage outer demo of bed. Copulate is universal; it is what makes us hominine valentine quotes. So the important liven of Valentine's Day is within every man and negroid valentine greetings, disregardless of prohibitionist.
"England's gun laws are based
"England's gun laws are based on protecting public safety"
How's that working for them? 2,034 viloent crimes per 100,000 residents in England as opposed to the US's 466 violent crimes per 100,000 residents.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
For every person that
For every person that boycotts Starbucks on valentine's, we need two law-abiding people to purchase something at Starbucks. I don't usually drink coffee unless I go with my wife. This valentine's day I'll make a special trip and buy some gift cards, which should make up for the boycotters in my area.
I dont even go to SB's
I dont even go to SB's normally but since this boycott I have been.
It would appear that
It would appear that Starbucks recognizes the law and obeys it despite the rantings and ravings of a vocal minority determined to have it's way regardless of what the majority wants. Anti-gunners have Peet's but then Peet's is not doing that great is it?So now the Anti-gun people want to move in on Starbucks as their new home and ruin it as well if they can.Guns do not kill people on their own. A gun needs a human hand behind it so why aren't the anti gun people working on elimninating the people who would use guns to kill with. I guess that can't work becuase that would mean someone taking responsibility for their actions wouldn't it and God forbid an anti-gunner would ask someone to do that.
Thumbs up for Starbucks
Thumbs up for Starbucks
There are many in the gun
There are many in the gun community that are arming up with three $2 bills. The $2 bill (representing the Second Amendment) is rare and will send a message to Starbucks that the pro 2A crowd will give them business, not deny them business. The reason for three $2 bills is that we intend to support Starbucks not only on the 14th when the anti gunners will boycott but on the 13th and 15th as well. A chain like Starbucks that refuses to enter the issue and potentially stifle us good citizens deserves our support.
Thanks for the info. I don't
Thanks for the info. I don't normally go to starbucks because I'm to cheap but I'll make a special trip this valentines day.
Hey Janet - Illinois,
Hey Janet - Illinois, California, Vermont and any airport in the country....they all have some great looking Starbuck's serving a mean Americano and are totally gun free.
Anna, you're not doing much
Anna, you're not doing much good with these stupid lies.
Vermont holds a State Preemption on local laws...beyond that, uneducated one, they don't have any restrictions. No NFA Ban, no registration law, no permit to purchase, no assault weapon law, no owner's license required....
and, oh yeah, no permit required for open or concealed carry.
Basically, in the State of Vermont, if you rip off someone's purse, there's a decent chance that the fifty people around you are carrying some HEAVY weaponry you can't see.
Just...dear god, before you post anything else...learn to FACT CHECK IT FIRST.
Yes, I have discovered that
Yes, I have discovered that Vermont was wrong to mention. I still hold to my comment about people that don't like the idea of conceal carry permitting a customer at a Starbucks in that state to have a weapon on their person. They could choose to move, or go to the airport. I myself am not a big gun enthusiast, but I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and have for most of my adult life. I make sure to live where I can carry a concealed weapon. Boys insulting girls for not being "experts when we are agreeing about the right to carry seems a bit ridiculous. Save your animosity for someone that wants to take your guns away and relax a little.
This statement below, I
This statement below, I believe to be an arbitrary opinion, not based on factual unbiased information:......................................................................................................................
"Open and conceal and carry are among the reasons there are 12,000 gun homicides each year in the U.S. If we had England's gun laws we would expect 375 gun homicides each year—97% less than we have. England's gun laws are based on protecting public safety, ours on maximizing sales for the gun industry." ....................................................................................................................... This is a presumption because I am not informed if this number includes 'death by the Police', the reasoning behind the deaths or how the deaths occurred. ........................................................................................................................ I'm not positive, but I am pretty sure that the guns did not jump up and start engaging in homicide. These homicides were caused by human thought and/or intention. ....................................................... The motivation behind the gun related deaths need to be recognized because removing guns may make knife homicides increase to 12,000 per year. ............................................................ Just need more facts and evidence, before one can make blanket statements.
The National Gun Victim's
The National Gun Victim's Action Council (NGAC)? Which group changed their name this time?
Actually, among ethnic communities that exist in both the U.S. and in England, the homicide rates are fairly similar. (I.e. American Jews vs. English Jews; Japanese-born in America vs. Japanese-born in England; Anglo-Saxons in America versus Anglo-Saxons in England; African-born blacks in the America vs. African-born blacks in England; Caribbean-born blacks in America vs. Caribbean-born blacks in England.)
But America has a few large high-homicide-rated groups not present in England (Latin American illegal aliens, descendents of victims of American slavery and Jim Crow segregation).
For example, Mexican illegal immigrants in America have a much higher homicide rate than other non-black Americans, but a much lower rate than among Mexicans in Mexico where the gun laws are much stricter.
Since the American homicide rate varies so drastically between ethnic groups -- but the gun laws are the same across ethnic groups -- obviously the cause is something other than the gun laws.
Of course, those determined to commit murder will be more likely to use something else when guns are hard to come by; that's why whenever I read of someone being beaten or stabbed to death I say to myself, "At least it wasn't _gun_ violence, thank God!"
England's gun laws were made
England's gun laws were made by old farts who were afraid of revolution. As such, it's turned into a horrible nanny state. If the average English citizen seen drawing guns, playing with GI Joe sized guns, or anything of that sort, it becomes nothing short of a lockdown to get the scary material away.
Broad sweeping statements about gun regulations are asinine! Here's an example of a place where there's strict gun control and murder is through the roof: Mexico.
Lax gun laws, low crime: Switzerland
Lax gun laws, high crime: USA
Strict gun control, low crime: Japan
Depending on who you ask and where, you can get a completely different set of figures. Back to this issue: Just owning a gun isn't the cause of a crime. There aren't residual bullets, the guns don't curve bullets around people, the bullets don't explode, the bullets don't home in on babies or cops or people, and if just sitting on a table the stupid thing isn't going to pull it's own trigger.
The fear mongering that goes on with regards to firearms is insane! And I was part of it for the longest time. I decided to educate myself about them in 2009. Come to present day, I feel I'm a more well rounded individual because of if (if just slightly broker, due to ammo costs, accessories, etc.). IT's given me a new respect for the machines that propel the rounds. This education has also dwindled most of my fear about firearms as well. Educate the people, don't frighten them with poppycock stories.
"Open and conceal and carry
"Open and conceal and carry are among the reasons there are 12,000 gun homicides each year in the U.S."
Uh, no. Very, very few crimes have been committed by people legally carrying weapons since the conceal-carry movement swept the nation.
What a load of crapola -
What a load of crapola - "Open and conceal and carry are among the reasons there are 12,000 gun homicides each year in the U.S." - if that's the case, then why is there a higher average rate of homicide in the states and cities with tighter gun-control laws?
I will be buying coffee at
I will be buying coffee at Stbks on Valentines day. I will also be buying gift cards for friends and a few tumblers too! If you anti-gun jackballs are going to boycott a business because it obeys the local gun laws that allow citizens to defend themselves and their family against violent offenders (you know who you are) then why not boycott Walmart or Sears or Macy's. This little boycott will backfire as the GunCulture 2.0 is already rallying around Stbks as i write this. It may be their best day this year.