House Overwhelmingly Passes National Right-to-Carry Gun Bill
The U.S. House of Representatives has passed an important self-defense measure that would enable millions of Right-to-Carry permit holders across the country to carry concealed firearms while traveling outside their home states. H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, passed by a majority bipartisan vote of 272 to 154. All amendments aimed to weaken or damage the integrity of this bill were defeated.
“NRA has made the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act a priority because it enhances the fundamental right to self-defense guaranteed to all law-abiding people,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “People are not immune from crime when they cross state lines. That is why it is vital for them to be able to defend themselves and their loved ones should the need arise.”
H.R. 822, introduced in the U.S. House by Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Heath Shuler (D-N.C.), allows any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed firearm in any state that issues concealed firearm permits, or that does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes.
This bill does not affect existing state laws. State laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within each state’s borders. H.R. 822 does not create a federal licensing system or impose federal standards on state permits; rather, it requires the states to recognize each others' carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards.
As of today, 49 states have laws in place that permit their citizens to carry a concealed firearm in some form. Only Illinois and the District of Columbia deny its residents the right to carry concealed firearms outside their homes or businesses for self-defense.
“We are grateful for the support of Speaker Boehner, Majority Leader Cantor, Majority Whip McCarthy, Judiciary Chairman Smith and primary sponsors Congressmen Stearns and Shuler for their steadfast support of H.R. 822. Thanks to the persistence of millions of American gun owners and NRA members, Congress has moved one step closer to improving crucial self-defense laws in this country,” concluded Cox.
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First point. Illinois (my state) is the "regional evil". California, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't allow concealed carry either, BUT it IS legal in the State of California to walk down Hollywood Blvd. at whatever time of day with a .44 Smith and Wesson (or legal side arm of choice) strapped to your hip for God and everyone else to see; as long as you don't do anything illegal concerning that firearm, all the police (i.e. GOVERNMENT) will do is wave, say "Hiya." and walk on by. That's all they CAN do. Sooo California is a state that gives some (limited) tacit approval to citizen's rights vis a vis the common interpretation of the Second Amendment.
Second point. "...it gets the Fed involved in state gun rights..." What part of "Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States" do you interpret as NON-Federal involvement? State gun rights are allowed to exist because the Federal Government under the Constitution says citizens can have those rights and those rights are in fact guaranteed by the Fed. Need proof, read the "Supremacy Clause", Article VI, Clause 2.
Since the "Right to keep and bear arms" is handed down to the citizenry of the United States as a whole by the Fed under the Constitution, this would be a law that ensures equal treatment (like reciprocity with driver's licenses) from state to state. Currently, without this law, if you (a legal gun-owner) carry concealed in your home state where such is legal, you cannot cross into your neighboring state and carry concealed, even though it may be legal in THAT state as well, simply because you don't have that state's license to do so.
This law would insure that not only would your home-state-issued driver's license be applicable in a neighboring state, but that your home-state-issued concealed carry permit would as well, therefore allowing you, the legal and law-abiding firearms owner, to operate within the law regardless what state you're in (except Illinois where our government doesn't care about our safety).
As an aside, "vote no" is silly...because if you actually READ the article, you'd see it already passed the House. Since 98 of the Senators come from states with concealed carry or open carry or both already in place and their House counterparts have passed this...well, I'd expect to see this one sail into law without a bump. Obama will not risk pissing off swing voters six weeks out from the Iowa Caucus.
Frankly, the Feds should NOT have to be involved in this since the 2nd Amendment trumps ANY state law, but due to the leftists over the years, we need to as a way of taking back our 2nd Amendment rights that have been infringed upon by state AND federal UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws. The Founding Fathers did not give ANY exclusions with respect to the 2nd Amendment and as such, EVERY law/regulation that came afterward with respect to firearms is totally unconstitutional. The RIGHT to bear arms is not a privilege (which can be taken away), it is a natural RIGHT which is shared by all free men EVERYWHERE, regardless of whatever whatever "regulations" that have been put in place by the various regimes. The denial of this basic right should be considered a human rights abuse by our government.
Perhaps I am just overcautious. I would _love_ to be able to carry in more than the 25 or so states that currently recognize my permit. I'm just worried that it would create such a backlash in the evil areas that, should they day come that they can turn the Supreme Court, they would become energized to use the first temporary control of government to do away with all our right (via change in the Supreme Court or a U.N. treaty) regardless of the political hit they would later take.
I don't oppose this law. I'm just worried.
I, too, am unsure about the wisdom of this. It might be better to let states such as California and Illinois remain regional evils than to provoke them into an all-or-nothing battle that the good guys might not win.
This particular pro gun bill is a bad idea because its gets the Fed involved in state gun rights. Vote no.
You fail to understand that the right to bear arms is no different than the right to worship as you please. How would you like it if your religion could be restricted in one state, but not in another state? This is a federal issue since it is a federally guaranteed right. The 2nd Amendment is not a privilege, it is reaffirmation of a RIGHT held by all free men EVERYWHERE. When a state or country attempts to restrict that right, we could consider it a human rights violation.
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YEP and I sure would prefer to see the firearm. Goods guys and Bad Guys both carry. Leave it to the States...Congress has already screwed up enough of our laws. And i thought John was telling the truth when he said he was for less regulation....HUMMMMMM
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The Founding Fathers did not see fit to put ANY restrictions on our 2nd Amendment guaranteed rights. In fact, they said that the right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. As such, if you want to open carry or concealed carry, it should make no difference. In some locations and climates, it's difficult to be truly concealed and in others it might even be difficult to carry in the open. A firearm is nothing more than a tool and we should quit treating it different than other tools. ALL gun laws should be repealed. A good start would be repealing NFA34 and GCA68.