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Since When Does a Walk for Victims Become a 'Hate Walk'?
The month of October is Pit Bull Awareness month. It is also the month for the first walk to remember the victims of pit bulls and other dangerous dogs.
This walk for victims has incurred the wrath of a national pit bull writer and she refers to it as the "Pit Bull Hate Walk in Tucson". Let's see exactly where the hate comes in. http://www.examiner.com/article/pit-bull-hate-walk-tuscon
This national writer should be encouraging her comrades to participate in this walk and without their pit bulls along side.
You never hear of walks or fundraising for these poor victims of vicious pit bull attacks but you will hear of many a walk/fundraiser for the pit that did the attack. The public might be more accepting about pit bulls if they could see pit owners having more respect for victims by helping them with fund raisers rather than a walk for a poor, misunderstood breed as they like to say.
There is nothing misunderstood when a child asks for his other face back when the bandages come off after a pit attack. Attacks by pit bulls are leaving victims with life altering injuries, financial ruin, and numerous other emotional traumas that you and I would have nightmares about. The writer goes on to condemn a pit bull victim who has taken up the cause of advocacy for other victims. Rather than offering a solution to the carnage left by pit bulls, the writer chooses instead to victimize a victim. Victimizing pit bull victims by the pit apologists is standard in comments on the news articles about pit attacks. Pit apologists have gone so far as to blame an innocent child for their attack. The worse comment I have seen from a pit apologist was that the child deserved the attack.
Where is this hate coming from? Why is the pit community in such denial of what their canines are doing daily? Beloved pets, herds of farm animals are being mauled and killed daily by pit bulls, where is the concern for these animals from the pit community? I encourage all who can to participate in this first walk to acknowledge the hundreds, thousands, of pit bull and other dangerous dogs victims. They deserve the same respect as victims of drunk drivers or gang shootings. You won't see the pit community spreading hate about these victims, then ask yourself, why do they hate the victims of pit bulls so much that they would add to the victim agony? The national writer is expressing much more hatred than she claims is coming from the other side. Please to to this link and look at the faces of the victims that this national writer says don't deserve a walk to remember them. http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/ 
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What concerns us about BSL,
What concerns us about BSL, is it really effective as you claim? To claim that we are possibly on the Pitbull Advocates Payroll or even threatened was at best, ludicrous. That Fabian's Law is weak?
We'll start with Fabian's Law. ARS 11-1014.01. Aggressive dogs; reasonable care requirements; violation; classification; definitions.
It is a Class 1 Misdemeanor when a person does not control the dog in a manner that prevents the dog form biting or attacking a person or domestic animal at all times while the dog is off the owner's or responsible person's property. It is a Class 3 Misdemeanor to prohibit the dog from escaping to the outside of a residence or an enclosed area, yard or structure. This was never addressed by Arizona State Law prior to Fabian's Law.
ARS 13-1208. Assault; vicious animals; classification; exception; definition.
A person who intentionally or knowingly causes any dog to bite and inflict serious physical injury on a human being or otherwise cause serious physical injury to a human being is guilty of a Class 3 Felony, unless the person would be justified in using physical force ore deadly physical force in self-defense or defense of a third person pursuant to Chapter 4 of this title. This part was also never addressed.
A person who owns a dog that the owner knows or has reason to know has a history of biting or a propensity to cause injury or to otherwise endanger the safety of human beings without provocation or that has been found to be a vicious animal by a court of competent jurisdiction and that bites, inflicts physical injury on or attacks a human being while at large is guilty of a Class 5 Felony. This section was increased from a Class 1 Misdemeanor, to a Class 5 Felony.
In addition to Fabian's Law, a person can also file a Civil Suit which is covered under ARS 11-1029A, Notice of Disposition Hearing on Citizen's Petition for Disposition Re: Vicious Animal.
I personally have attended court hearings to support the victims when they have been attacked, so please do not tell me about not being around victims of "Aggressive Dog Attacks". Our drive is to see that justice is being served, and that "Irresponsible Dog Owner's" are being punished. Sally has personally contacted the Courts and Prosecutors from many cities to raise awareness about Fabian's Law. She has contacted Law Enforcement to offer assistance when a person or domestic animal has been attacked or killed. We offer assistance to those that are in need of advice and explain to them procedures that take place when an attack has occurred. We also direct them to an attorney who has been with us since day one if needed, who has been very successful when it comes to restitution for the victims.
We owe a debt of gratitude to the composer of Fabian's Law, Dr. Rodrigo Silva, Director of Maricopa County Animal Care and Control, who composed Fabian's Law. Dr. Silva had been trying to get a law to address the issue of "Aggressive Dogs" since 2002. He lets victims know that we are there to assist them, in their time of need. We do this on top of working our full time jobs, 40 hours for Sally and 60 for me.
Because we have been in contact with so many victims, we have found that it is just not one breed that is attacking and mauling. We do not oppose or support BSL. Our concern is just for the victims. We also found once BSL was not the topic, we gained even more support especially from owners who agreed on the definition of an "Aggressive Dog".
Google "Dog attacks by Breed 2012", because this is what concerns us.
Pitbulls and rottweilers and mixes account for 64 percent of all fatal dog attacks between 1982-2011. However, there are a number of other breeds to be concerned about. www.prweb.com/releases/2012/7/prweb9692432.html
We are concerned about the other 36 percent, not just the 64 percent, because what is an acceptable percentage of fatal dog attacks?
Banning 1 breed just creates demand for a new "Killer" Dog. www.humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/facts/statement_breed_specific_legislation.html
For those that want and support BSL, in order for it to be effective, determining which website you look at, the following breeds should also be banned: Pitbull, Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Huskies, Alaskan Malamutes, Doberman Pinschers, Chow Chow, Presa Canario, Boxer, Akita, and Wolf-Hybrids.
You might also want to add the following breeds, because victims who we were in contact with, were attacked by these breeds also: Great Dane, Labrador, Mastiff, Chihuahua, St. Bernard, and a Standard Poodle.
This website has a record of dog attacks and is broken down in detail, www.animalpeoplenews.org. The link for the report is images.bimedia.net/documents/dog+attack+stats+with+breed+2012.pdf The number of pitbull attacks is the highest on this report. But if we were in your words Pitbull Advocates we would not want you to see this report and would we would be trying to discredit the numbers.
The bottom line is education, enforcement and to get all groups involved to start opening a line of communication, to come to terms. What is an acceptable percentage of fatal dog attacks upon humans by any breed? ZERO
Because of Fabian's Law, there is a county in Arizona that is going to be held accountable for not taking the necessary steps when an "Aggressive Dog" attacked several times with multiple victims over a period of time. To you it may be a weak law, but to us it is better than the one we had before, which was nothing.
I do have a question for you. Miami Dade County has a pitbull ban, what other county now has a pitbull problem because of the ban? Just like I pointed above, New Mexico is stuck with the pitbull problem because of Denver's pitbull ban. Did this ban eliminate all dog attacks upon humans? I want you to persuade us why we should support BSL or oppose BSL. Keep in mind, when trying to address this issue, what is an acceptable percentage of fatal dog attacks upon human by all breeds? Why stop at one breed, why not get all breeds involved in fatal dog attacks banned? Should the ban only be when a fatal attack has occurred and/or a serious injury? What would be the definition of a dog bite, one that has broken the skin and caused bleeding or one that has left a person disfigured and scarred? Do we ban only large or small dogs? If a breed that has never attacked a human before automatically be placed on the ban list?
Since it is obvious you have answers to some of our concerns, we are very interested in reading your feedback with supporting information. Remember you are trying to convince us, after all, the law we have dubbed Fabian's Law is Law and had very much support from many, many supporters from all breeds of dogs.
So all of a sudden you become
So all of a sudden you become the great experts? You have actually done more harm than good with your law. Now when it does become necessary to enact a law to actually protect people, your law will be pointed to and proclaimed that no new law is needed. You have created more victims with your law because it does nothing to prevent victims, prevent attacks. Plus you fail to see that the pit apologists are cowards, they run. Pit apologists rarely have insurance for victims, leaving them to lose their homes, their lives.
You should be ashamed for turning your backs on BSL. You've done nothing great and you certainly didn't make a fan of me. I have enough experience to know what this law isn't even enough to stop pit bull attacks. Your dog died in vain if this is your legacy to him. The door is still open for new victims as a result.
Fabians law allows victim.
Fabians law allows victim. This is insufficient. Voters in Miami Dade spoke loud and clear with their vote to keep their ban. The ban has kept residents safe from pitbull maulings for 23 years. That is success. Pitbull attacks are much more severe than other dog "bites". Of sourse you had support from pitbull advocates and others for Fabians law as it is doesn't really do much.. Oh yeah you can go after people in civil court but what if they are renters and poor? Oh then you are left with nearly a million dollars in medical bills.. Oh Joy. Bans are much more humane as they deter dog fighters, stop the endless euthanizations of over bred pitbulls, cost less as tax payers are no longer paying for police to shoot pitbulls all the time and they are not paying for constant euthanizations in their pounds. But the reason bans are superior by far is QUALITY OF LIFE. People now carry guns because of pitbulls, People are moving out of homes they have loved for years because they don't want to live near them. People no longer walk their dogs or let their children ride their bikes as the risk is too high. Areas with bans give people a much higher quality of life that used to be enjoyed by all in previous generations. I don't have to persuade you to support BSL but if you had one grand child mutlilated for life by a pitbull or lost your wife to a pitbull attack, I wouldn't have to convince you.. you wouldn't want to take the chance of this happening to anyone else. Sorry, Fabian's law.. still for bans. I don't want to walk through the park with the loose pitbulls, or see them chasing people from tiny fenced yards as they walk past. I am glad you are happy with your law, but that doesn't mean everyone has to accept it. As noted before.. many surgeons and medical professionals also want bans on the breed BECAUSE THE PHYSICAL DAMAGE from a pitbull attack is equal to an attack from a lion or bear. It is not something they can fix after the fact so they don't want to see any more victim, either.
No matter how you say it or
No matter how you say it or cut it, it requires a victim to be effective. I think you are terribly misguided as to the worth of your law. I think you are being used as well. You know the answers to your questions, why ask them? I know where you get your answers from as well. Very sad what you have done because it will never stop the attacks, the carnage of the biggest offender.
I agree. I would seek out an
I agree. I would seek out an area with a ban to go sightseeing and camping as I would feel safer and more relaxes.. It is a quality of life issue..
On September 5, 2009, our
On September 5, 2009, our miniature poodle Fabian was attacked and killed in our own driveway by an aggressive dog.
On April 25, 2011, Governor Jan Brewer passed into law "Fabian's Law". A law that gives rights to both our pets and people. "AGGRESSIVE DOG" MEANS ANY DOG THAT HAS BITTEN A PERSON OR DOMESTIC ANIMAL WITHOUT PROVOCATION OR THAT HAS A KNOWN HISTORY OF ATTACKING PERSONS OR DOMESTIC ANIMALS WITHOUT PROVOCATION.
Because Sally and I were victims, with support from many, we were able to lobby our State Legislators to pass "Fabian's Law".
In the Phoenix Metro area "Irresponsible Dog Owners" of "Aggressive Dogs" are being punished severely with probation to jail sentences and in extreme cases being ordered to euthanize their "Aggressive Dogs" when they have attacked and killed.
Fabian's Law is working, however, it is up to the victims to press upon the Prosecutor's to punish the "Irresponsible Dog Owners" to fullest extent of the Law.
Why is it that we have two groups of people, one who want to ban pit bulls and the other group that want to keep pit bulls. Those that want to ban pit bulls are victims in many cases or know someone that has been a victim. They claim that these dogs are dangerous and a menace to society who will attack unprovoked because it is their nature to attack and to be aggressive. That many times they attack small children therefore they should be banned. Pit bull owners claim their dogs a sweet, loving, loyal dogs and would not harm. However they are also the ones that feel that their breed is misunderstood and misrepresented and are given a bad rap by the victims and the media. We can argue these points till we are blue in the face, and we will still feel the same in the end.
Does BSL work? According to New Mexico State Senator Sue Beffort who tried to pass BSL in New Mexico. After Denver, CO passed BSL, New Mexico inherited the pit bull problem. So does BSL really work?
Across the United States there are hundreds of people that are killed, maimed and have sicknesses associated with alcohol. But yet, alcohol is still here. What has happened, in the case of Arizona and many more states thanks in large to MADD and many more groups, stronger DWI laws have been passed, but yet, we still have intoxicated drivers getting behind the wheel.
So what do we have to do to take care of this problem, with just pit bulls? I hate to say this because it is the truth, pit bulls are not only the problem. Many other breeds attack, which the bottom line is the responsibility falls upon the "Irresponsible Dog Owner" of an "Aggressive Dog".
To take away the rights from those that are responsible dog owner's, just like those who use a designated driver when out drinking, would be against the principle's established by the Constitution of the United States.
Let's support and pass laws that protect the rights of victims. When an "Aggressive Dog" has attacked and killed, lets punish the "Irresponsible Dog Owner", not the breed. Fabian's Law is a Law that protects the rights of VICTIMS. Honor those that have been victims with Memorials and Walks, but support Legislation and Laws that give rights to the VICTIMS.
For those that supported us, THANK YOU.
Richard and Sally Andrade, Founders of Fabian's Law.
Fabian's Law. So you are so
Fabian's Law. So you are so enchanted with your law as it carries your dog's name? Or is it your own ego that makes you discount the laws such as Miami Dades Pitbull ban that has kept both people and pets SAFE from being victims from maulings for 23 years? There have been several instances already of Fabian's Law not being followed after an attack and victims can go after owners of vicious dogs now with lawsuits if they have anything to recover. Your law falls far short of effective legislation and spreading lies about BSL certainly is not going to get you any supporters. What are you on the pitbull advocates payroll or did you fall over and cover when the world wide internet posse of pitbull advocates threatened you? Listening to pitbull advocates from out of the area and bowing down to them makes as much sense as letting Iranians on the net make our foreign policy. Your analogy to MADD is very strange. MADD not only greatly increased the penalaties for drunk drivers they were instrumental in increasing targeted enforcement. Yes some people still drink and drive but it is not accepted or condoned as it was decades ago. Now, if a leader is caught drunk driving they lose their jobs, as well as their liscense, and the serious penalities on drunk driving have reduced fatalities before they happen. In addition you completely leave out one very important thing that victims of drunk drivers are covered by but dog attack victims are not: INSURANCE. Pitbull attacks are much more serious than normal dog bites and victims are all over the internet trying to raise funds to pay for not only their medical bills but to cover plastic surgery expenses that are not covered by most insurances. Your law allows victims. Yes you can go after a person after an attack but do you think that really brings back a child, or undoes a mutilated face? Did you have any human children? Could you imagine having a child grow up with out a scalp, and an eye and half of their face? They will be mocked and ridiculed and never have a date or most likely a spouse as you enjoy. It seems your ego has gotten in the way of logic and consideration for all victims, many of whom will feel no justice is given by going after an irresponsbile dog owner and taking away their rights they have already lost a loved one, or a leg, or are raising a child with serious medical issues that will continue for life because of a pitbull attack. Just because you threw in the towel and can find one person to support your anti-bsl stance doesn't mean others should have such low standards. Your way is sort of like saying go after my law that will give you some rights to extract revenge but it won't bring back mom or dad, or your lost pet OR PAY your medical bills if the dog owner is poor or a renter. Leaves a heck of a lot of people stuck doesn't it? If you truly care about other victims as much as you care about your name and "your law" perhaps you should work with all groups. Raising awareness of the problem and severity of dog attacks does help people back in their home states support real effective legislation. BSL not only eliminates victims, it is much more humane that constantly killing over bred pitbulls, and it is cheaper over time as euthanizations go down. And the crap about not punishing the breed is crazy. Pitbulls and their mixes do so much more damage to the human body that plastic surgeons have gotten involved advocacating for bans as they see the big difference in the severity of the maulings. The amount of FLESH removed is so great they cannot fix victims. Pitbulls have killed 10 people in the last six weeks and recently castrated a boy in HotSprings Arkansas. I assume you still enjoy your face and your legs and hopefully you can appreciate that more people have lost their lives and body parts to pitbulls than any other dog breed. Do not let your ego get in the way of progress and change. We don't allow people to own dynamite as many people cannot use it safely. It is a violate substance. The same should be for pitbulls. They were raised for evil and evil begets evil. Like biological weapons and nuclear bombs they cannot be controlled and should of never been created in the first place. I am sure the Indiannapolis mom whose daughter has been through 57 surgeries to try to recover some shred of normal appearance (and she still looks like a war victim) understands much more than you do that you can't support laws that ALLOW these victims to happen. I suppose if you had a grandchild mutilated for life you might understand. Maybe you should now draft Fabians LAW Two and go forward instead of asking everyone else to accept Lion like maulings of people and pets that are much more than mere dog bites.
Whereas Fabian's Law is a
Whereas Fabian's Law is a good thing, it allows for victims. BSL is an effort to prevent victims. I vote for BSL and stopping what happened to your dog.
Exactly they seem to over
Exactly they seem to over look this to keep their name out there and keep their hobby .. spreading a weak law instead of going after one that really protects people
Exactly this is their
Exactly this is their retirement hobby. Sort of like spending your time advocating for laws to take away people's right to start fires after they burn your house down with your kids in it. Fabians law needs to go further instead of getting stuck in the mud.
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Personally, in any dog
Personally, in any dog attack, I blame the owner/trainer. I don't think it is the breed that is necessarily at fault. I have known dogs of all breeds and usually it is a jerk owner that has a jerk dog. The dog reflects the owners personality, as well as what the owner has taught it. If the owner is a bad person, it tends to raise an aggressive dog. I would argue nature vs. nurture. I don't think Pitbulls are bad in and of themselves. I blame the irresponsible owners of ANY dogs.
"How do you know so much about everything?'" was asked of a very wise and intelligent man; and the answer was "By never being afraid or ashamed to ask questions as to anything of which I was ignorant." - John Abbott (1821-1893)
So Darla Napora and David
So Darla Napora and David Cook and all of those owners killed by thier own pitbulls were negligent when over and over we are told the dogs showed no aggression and were given all the love and care of other dogs. If it were the owners all dogs would maul at an equal rate as all dogs have equal chances of being chosen by negligent owners.. but even in areas where pitbulls are rare, they always cause the most severe attacks and the most deaths. Using your logic, people with children born with spinda BIFIDA, or children that develop neurological disorders or have temper prbblems from autism are because they had BAD PARENTS. Illogical thinking..
Using your logic then, if you
Using your logic then, if you have a retriever, do you think that you can keep that dog from retrieving things? If you have a hound dog, do you think you can keep that hound from putting his nose to the ground? They do these things because of breeding. Now what were pits bred to do? Their breeding is for aggression, viciousness, because otherwise they would not be the choice for dog fighting, would they? So anyone that can't break their retriever from fetching a ball or a hunter break his coon dog from hunting, would be irresponsible in your world.
Gee the golden retriever two
Gee the golden retriever two doors down knows nothing about retrieving. The two pit bulls I have never seem to want to fight...could it possibly be that you are incorrect. Pit Bulls when they orginally came to the US were used as farm dogs etc. Read "The working Pit Bull" by Diane Jessup. Also for your info all dogs grab and shake.. I had an Irish Setter once and when she caught ground squirrels that is what she would do grap and shake.
Read The 100 Silliest Things
Read The 100 Silliest Things People Say about Dogs by Alexandra Semyovona a world reknown animal behaviorist and evolutionary biologist.
Ask anyone if those (probably
Ask anyone if those (probably non existent) retrievers are the exception to the rule. Geez, you sure are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Plus you continue to win people over to the correct side of the victims by continuing with your defense of a dog over that of a victim. Keep it up, it only serves to help victims.
You used sd. retrievers all
You used sd. retrievers all retrieve when I pointed out they dont... you sd. oh that is the exception.. actually it appears to me that you dont know what you are talking about... I have owned pit bull type dogs for over 17 years, I have broken up exactly 3 fights and they were all my own dogs that got mad at each other. Dogs do not go around looking for a fight ... even dogs that are trained for the pit must be trained.. they usually chain the dogs up so they cannot get to each other.. but can get very close to each other.. Dogs are actually a pack animal so they naturally try to get along.
It sounds like Pat has never
It sounds like Pat has never owned a dog before. A dog's temperament is based on how the dog was trained and raised by the owner. If a dog own gets a dog and it's sole purpose is to fight obviously they are going to train their dogs to be agressive. Like Bullybob said all dogs grab and shake...my little Llaso Apso does the same thing with his toys. I guess I raise an aggressive dog.
Seriously, do you believe
Seriously, do you believe what you just said? You mean to say that temperament has nothing to do with breeding, bloodlines, genetics? And if that is true, when can we expect to see mustangs running in the Kentucky Derby?
Thoroughbred horse racing recognizes genetics, the AKC recognizes genetics, but you are in denial. And when was the last time you heard of a Llaso Apso killing a person. Just trying to envision an Apso taking down a horse.
As we all know Pitbull owners
As we all know Pitbull owners will tell you that a common house mouth is much more aggressive and dangerous than the pitbull they own Then they will post pics of the dogs with their kids.. then they will blame the owners for NOT superivising their dogs or leaving their kids with a pitbull when one mauls. .. even when a pitbull attacks a child with its mom walking it in a baby carriage. I guess belonging to a fad and believing illogical lies is more important to some than the safety of their children. Some people can only follow... but cannot lead and think independently and intelligently.
Exactly Pat. All of
Exactly Pat. All of domesticated animal husbandry recognizes genetically based temperament and behavior. Some breeds of cattle are known to be more aggressive than other, same for goats. And how about chickens - that is another domesticated animal that perverse people have breed for extreme aggression for fighitng. You cannot raise gamefowl the way you raise layers. The chicks begin killing each other very early with gamefowl.
And you all are in denial. And that is why 1/2 of you, when your pit kills a dog or attacks a kid, run away. Because, you weren't prepared for this event because you just very irresponsibly said it won't happen to me. The other 1/2 of you won't run away, you'll stand there slack jawed while some bystander actaully gets your dog off the kid or the elderly person.
They run away and they hide
They run away and they hide and they try to escape resonsibilty and then they play blame the victim. They talk about holding owners responsible then they don't want to be responsible and they stand up for owners of pitbulls that have attacked by saying.. Mistakes happen. And they deny breaksticks are recommended for their breed.. because of that little problem: THEY WON'T let go.
This article explains her
This article explains her attempt to shield the attacking pit bull from culpability is best explained here: http://pacifica.patch.com/articles/pit-bull-she-fell-off-a-ladder-is-pr-spin
Good article, Pat, I feel the
Good article, Pat, I feel the same way. I posted a comment on the original article on the Examiner site and it was taken down. Nothing obscene, I just referenced Cindy Marabito's "ladder theory" which she espoused as true in her Examiner article on the tragic Darla Napora mauling. Unbelievably, this article is still up on their website. I don't want to get into the details but I urge all of you reading this to read her article, and then read the news accounts of Ms. Napora's death. If you do so, you will realize that the author of these articles has no credibility.
We do not hate victims. I
We do not hate victims. I have never seen anyone hate a victim. What we do hate is that you people have no problem blaming perfectly innocent people and their perfectly innocent dogs. We hate that you run around saying all pit bull owners should be ashamed for what someone elses dogs did. We hate when you attack people with good intentions because theyre pit bull owners. We hate that you say were all guilty when its not true. We hate when you all say that pit bulls are mutants but you have no fact in this world to back that up. We hate the way you blatently lie about or ignore other victims. We hate that you guys regularly go into your ( not so secret ) groups and talk about killing innocent animals with poison. We hate that the people who are organizing this walk are crazy and that they will be around people with fragile psyche. There is going to be a man at that walk that told a 15 year old girl that he wanted her to suck his d**k. He also harassed and threatened some other young women and told them he follows them around and takes pictures of them. Dont believe me its all right there on screenshots of haters craziness. This is also the man that bragged about provoking a friends elderly pit bull. Being cruel to her to see if she would bite him so he could do harm to her. Sounds like a real great guy huh? We dont hate on victims. Sorry, you guys dont qualify as victims. Just a bunch of hate mongering people who have another agenda. Your own words prove it. Matt Pimple threatened physical harm on someone? Oh god you must have did something to him! I guess you people dont know anything about the guy do you? Lol maybe it would be a good idea to learn about people before you put them around a bunch of victims..
Your hatred for the victims
Your hatred for the victims shows in each comment you make. Just how many names do you have?
That is so true Pat. In the
That is so true Pat. In the facebook comments section she tried to say she's a dog bite victim advocate. And then she revealed the name of someone she'd been evidently "counseling" and "helping" and then said the victim is likely to lie about having been helped. This sweet, compassionate victim advocate preemptively called someone she supposedly helped a liar! She can't even fake being compassionate for a few sentences in a comments section.
This honestly infuriates me.
This honestly infuriates me. I have lived with pit bulls since I was born and just realized in this past year how much they are actually hated. My experience with these dogs has been nothing but wonderful. I just wish the haters could see the good side. I do not agree with the statistics associated with this post, and I am going to be researching this further for sure.
Well, your still alive. Count
Well, your still alive. Count your blessings. I personally know 6 families other than myself whose lives have been impacted by Pitty dogs. Their lives will NEVER be the same. As mine will never be the same. IF all you pitty people truely LOVED this breed, you would do EVERYTHING in your power to educate the public and those perspective owners about BOTH the GOOD and BAD of the breed. Instead of pushing them as THE PERFECT dog for EVERYONE!
What should infuriate you is
What should infuriate you is the closed casket funerals instead. Understand that this article was intended to show the hate by people who own pit bulls toward those who have suffered attacks and it does do that with the hateful, disgusting comments of those, like yourself, who think their pits are more important than these poor victims. You are morally corrupt to come on here with this attitude and no sympathy for all those victims.
If I didn't have to work that
If I didn't have to work that day I would be there. My daughter had the horse she was riding jerked out from under her in an attack. The dog just missed grabbing her leg. The mental anguish that we are going through is increadible. I heard the attack and I was about a quarter of a mile away. The horse suffered major trauma from the bite, strained muscles in a leg and is now fearful of animals. I do not get why it is "hateful" to bring awareness of what these animals are capable of.
These people who own pits
These people who own pits don't look at the victims, they don't look at what a pit bull does to people and animals. They don't want to see it. We all want to believe that our dog would never hurt a fly but rational people realize that their dog can hurt a fly and take precautions. Whereas pit owners accept nothing bad about their dogs and therefore take no precautions to protect their neighbors, their own family, other pets. No one is safe when people like that are allowed to own a canine bred for only one purpose - to kill.
We will walk for you, Victim, on Saturday.
Actually I know quite a few
Actually I know quite a few pit bull owners and they know exactly what there dogs can do. It is irresponsible owners that do not. What bothers me you lump all pit bull owners and the dog in the same category.. Less than 1 per cent of pit bulls ever bite and the chance of being fatally mauled by a pit bull type dog is .0025 per cent.
There is no way you can know
There is no way you can know how many pit bulls bite because not all bites are reported. And you can't know how many people with sense have their pit bull put down for showing aggression before it manages to do great harm. Nor is there any way you can know how many pets are gruesomely mauled to death every day by pit bulls. What is known is that over a million pit bulls are euthanized each year and the shelter gets them because someone brought them there, or let them go to be strays.
We keep going over this, but 89 people total in a decade died in "unintended acceleration" accidents triggering a massively expensive toyota recall because people thought it indecent that a poorly engineered car was responsible for killing 89 people. And Toyota didn't say - well look at how many other people die anyway in car accidents. No big deal
The same goes for blinds manufacturers whose designs strangled babies. I can't remember the number but i've brought it up before, and bullybob knows this.
So, bullybob, we know you feel incredibly comfortable with the number of children adults and elderly gruesomely mauled to death by pit bulls poorly engineer genetics at present. How many would it take to make you feel maybe just a little bit sad about the carnage? Cuz last year alone pit bulls painfully mauled 22 people. In the last 7 weeks 7 people have been mauled to death by pit bulls. When do you start caring?
So Lucy Muir you do exactly
So Lucy Muir you do exactly what responsible pit bull owners hate... you lump us all together. You never take into account the millions of pit bulls that never make the news because they are a good family pet. Possibly you read about Petunia and Meg.. the first pit bulls I ever owned. I had them together for over 10 years before PTS due to medical issues. Before you sd. you had to PTS Meg had bone cancer and Petunia became so weak due to her age she could not get up. I know exactly how you haters think so you would try to twist me having to put my beloved dogs down. Presently I have two dogs both adopted, s/n, chipped and vacinated. What makes you think I am happy with children or people being mauled to death. It bothers me and it does most pit bull owners. However trying to elimate dogs just because of the way they look because of the actions of a very small segment of the pit bull population is plain stupid, basically akin to racial profiling... or maybe you do not have a problem with racial profiling.
But these "responsible
But these "responsible owners" still take their dogs out into the public, increasing the likelyhood of an attack. Pitties are very protective of their families and can perceive threats that are not there and attack. As a responsible owner are you prepared to do whatever it would take to remove your perfect pet off of a victim be it human or animal? Or would you stand there in disbelief that your creampuff is mauling an innocent? Too many pitty owners stand in disbelief while their dog ties into an innocent out of fear of themselves getting bitten. Your dog, your responsibility.
It is quite obvious you dont
It is quite obvious you dont know to much about dog handling or dogs period. If you do not exercise your dog the chances of them actually doing something really bad increases. Years ago I was walking my two girls. A shepard mix attacked one of the dogs.. and yes I did what it took to break up the fight. I am sorry you were a victim... but it makes no sense to me for one attack that you put every pit bull and pit bull owner into the same category.. Everyone has had a bad exerience. I was robbed at gun point by a guy with a lot of tattoes... do I now go around telling everyone that people with tattoes are violent criminals ?
Sorry one personal experience
Sorry one personal experience and 8 of friends, just in the last couple years. A lot of tradgety at the jaws of a dangerous breed. I will be fair here, in one of the attacks there was another dog with the pitty. It was a chihuahua. But somehow I do not think it was the chihuahua that killed the ram.
Hello bullybob. There are
Hello bullybob. There are plenty of ways to exercise your dogs without taking them out in public. There are many wonderful activities that you can do at home in the safety of your own yard. You did state that other dogs seem to be drawn to yours, so keep em home and keep em safe. There is fly ball, fetch, frisbee, dog dancing, agility, obedience,weight pulling, carting. All of which can be done in the safety of your backyard. I love all animals, will never change. Not afraid of any animal.However I feel if you own a tiger it should be kept in such a way that the public is protected from being harmed by it, and that is the OWNER'S responsibility. Their's and their's alone. Your choice to own, your responsibility to protect others.
Where did I say i was
Where did I say i was attacked... My dogs were attacked by a loose dog.. a shperard mix to be specific... Ms Pat the Bigot
You seem to place your dogs
You seem to place your dogs in danger since you have listed several attacks. Ever thought you are doing something wrong to solicit all these attacks? It's your fault, you provoked these attacks. That poor shepherd was only defending itself from your provoking. You had to have done something to that shepherd, shepherds don't attack, they are the sweetest dogs on earth.
There, how does it feel? This is what you do to pit victims.
You are a moron, and would be
You are a moron, and would be of greater service to dog bite victims if you'd just stop speaking.
You'd like that since you
You'd like that since you don't want people to know the truth. Ain't gonna happen, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, Pat. I
I'm not your buddy, Pat.
I don't dislike the truth. I dislike it when stupid people jump on a bandwagon and muddy the waters of thought, discussion and problem solving with hysteria and fear mongering.
The anti pit bull movement isn't solving the problem of dog bites. A hate walk "for victims" of pit bulls on national pit bull awareness day isn't solving problems. BSL doesn't work. Banning/destroying every single pit bull on the planet will not solve the problem of people being horribly attacked and killed, I'm sorry, it just won't.
Pit bull owners do not rejoice at the images of disfigured children. My particular dog is not responsible for whatever happened to you, your child, your dog/cat in the past. Calling names and blaming faultless dogs and owners is not a solution. It's reactionary, childish lashing out.
Pat you are a flat out
Pat you are a flat out LIAR... I mentioned one atack by a shepard mix. The dog came out of now where.. was loose and my dogs were on leashes. How in the heck do you say the shepard was defending itself.. I will not be a bigot and put all of the pit bull haters in one classification... but you are plain out stupid and a LIAR to boot.
You sure seem to have a
You sure seem to have a problem with yourself being attacked, don't you know much about dogs? You use no logic either it appears. Not all people with tattoos have the same mentality however, pit bulls do because of genetics. That makes a difference, BB, a difference you can't see with those closed eyes. If it were mutts doing all this killing, you might make some sense, but it is a particular breed doing the killings. And that breed was bred for one thing and only one thing - to kill. I would suggest you stay away from dogs with your record of being bitten.
Your reading comprehension is
Your reading comprehension is appalling.
Thanks for letting everyone
Thanks for letting everyone know just how stupid you are. A pit bull is a type of dog... not a breed like you just typed. If anything they are a mutt. Most dogs that are called a pit bull do not have papers, no specific breeding and are just big headed dogs with a muscular body.