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Jennifer Lawrence Slams PETA
In recent interview with Rolling Stone, 'The Hunger Games' star Jennifer Lawrence slammed People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) over an incident in her Oscar-nominated role in the 2010 film 'Winter's Bone.'
Lawrence said that she gutted a squirrel for real in the movie, ripping the fur from its flesh: "I should say it wasn't real, for PETA. But screw PETA."
PETA president Ingrid Newkirk told the Gothamist in a statement: "She’s young and the plight of animals somehow hasn’t yet touched her heart. As Henry David Thoreau said, 'The squirrel you kill in jest, dies in earnest.'"
"We are told that this squirrel was hit by a car, but when people kill animals, it is the animals who are 'screwed,' not PETA, and one day I hope she will try to make up for any pain she might cause any animal who did nothing but try to eke out a humble existence in nature."
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I have more respect for the
I have more respect for the humane society me thinks, the problem with "farming" is how do we balance it out? if growing farm animals in enclosed locations is considered "torture" i'm not talking about the factory farming, i'm talking the small 4, 6 chicken personal use set up, then maybe you should think twice about getting a dog or a cat unless you'd like them running around your neighborhood. Hope they don't bite somebody! you'd be sued
Been seeing a lot of the name
Been seeing a lot of the name Jennifer Lawrence everywhere and wondering who she is. Now I know. She's a cunt.
Paula Qualls Gurley - You're
Paula Qualls Gurley - You're as wacky as PETA. PETA is not a terrorist organization - a bunch of nut jobs, yes, just like you, you idiot.
Let us see PETA what has no
Let us see PETA what has no problem exploiting women to push an agenda against eating meat and harming animals, guess what having raised chickens, pigs and cows they don't have feelings and such and I could care less. Don't push your agenda on me and I won't push mine on you.
Liberals have no problem killing unborn fetuses but cringe when I want to kill Bambi or Rocket J. Squirrel, let alone eat a chicken dinner and have a burger. While women can have a choice so should I guess what plenty of deer and squirrel and rabbit around and cows, pigs and chicken are pretty plentiful as well. I don't think that my choice to eat meat or wear fur is a reason to be sanctimonious about "animal rights", I'm against torturing animals but really raising chickens and cows isn't actually torturing them nor is hunting.
Nick, I'm an animal lover
Nick, I'm an animal lover concerned about ALL animals' welfare (I do eat meat, btw). I agree that hunting (clean kills) is not torturing animals; on the other hand, wild and long range shots by crazies out to prove some point (their manhood?) is another story.
I disagree, however, about your assertion that raising chickens and cows isn't torturing those animals. Unless you are talking about free-range conditions (look for free-range poultry and meats in your grocery store), in most cases, animals raised for food are, indeed, "living" in tortured conditions.
It's too bad PETA is such a wack job organization (criticizing a President for swatting at a fly, for cryin' out loud, and other outlandish positions). They have exposed a number of inhumane conditions at various stages of livestock raising.
The thing is that most
The thing is that most hunting is clean kills and not guys out to prove a point, yet organizations like PETA point out the crazies, much like the gun control nuts, and as for the chickens and cows the problem with that is the whole business of agriculture over the last 20-25 years which moved from smaller farms to big business farms which have taken the flavor out of food as well as treating the animals worse than the farmers did back in the late 70's and 80's when agri-business became so profitable.
As Henry David Thoreau said,
As Henry David Thoreau said, 'The squirrel you kill in jest, dies in earnest.'"
I'm sure Thoreau would also have something to say about the thousands of animals PETA euthanizes each year.
Inbred Newjerk has already,
Inbred Newjerk has already, publicly said that she is a media whore, so anything that comes from her organization has got to be full of dishonest, attention-grabbing crap.
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
If the claim of being a
If the claim of being a "media Whore" applies to the actress then the same is applicable to PETA as well. PETA is doing the same thing then, stirring up the pot, if you will, knowing full well media attention will follow.
I am not for cruelty to animals at all but what I find odd about basic human behavior is we often contradict ourselves or end up as the hypocrite. But that is what makes the world spin, opposing views of one another.
For myself I think t his is silly, but they do have a right to an opinion after all.
v/r Al D'Adda
Good for her. PETA and
Good for her. PETA and everyone involved with it are annoying as hell.
Because they ask you to have
Because they ask you to have a conscience?
It is pathetic when people
It is pathetic when people have no respect for other forms of animal life. Humans are not the only species on this planet but too many seem to think so and treat all others as "worthless". Too many humans also seem to forget that they are also an animal. Every animal deserves to be treated humanely and with respect.
"Too many humans also seem to
"Too many humans also seem to forget that they are also an animal. Every animal deserves to be treated humanely and with respect." - If we are just another animal then the only difference from other predators is we farm our animals. I bet if lions could figure out how to farm animals they would. Watch Animal Planet and see how predators treat their kills with respect while ripping them apart alive.
The Catholic Heretic
Yes we farm our animals. We
Yes we farm our animals. We shove pigs in gestation crates where they can't move, we shove chickens in cages to lay their eggs and they can't even flap their wings. We have humans who work in slaughter houses who abuse the animals, throwing baby pigs, stabbing cows, stomping and kicking turkeys. Yes we are so much better than lions. You are an idiot. Just another stupid human animal who thinks they are so much better than any other species out there. Shove you stupid attitude up your ass. The human race is the most pathetic animal on this planet because we can't leave any other species alone to live their lives. Humans are always interfering and causing problems.
@prairiegal: Wow, you have a
@prairiegal: Wow, you have a lot of pent up anger. I see from your comments that you are not a Christian nor a believer in God. I know how most farmed animals are treated and that is why I only buy products that use humane methods. It's expensive but worth it. You see animals as equals but we Christians see them as a gift from God. I've lived with cows, sheep and chickens on my Grandmothers ranch. There is a reason for the term "dumb animals." They are not self-aware or sentient.
Take a look in your closet at all your shoes, belts and purses. A lot of cows die for those.
The Catholic Heretic
I believe all animals should
I believe all animals should be treated humanely even those intended for slaughter. I am sick and tired of so many so called humans that abuse animals for the hell of it and that includes slaughter house workers. I certainly am angry at many people out there because they lack respect for anything and are only worried about themselves.
@prairiegal: I find that most
@prairiegal: I find that most people do not like the way farmed animals are treated. Education is the best route to bring people around. Allowing emotions to rule accomplishes nothing. All animals should be treated with respect whether they are pets or potential food. Not all slaughter house workers are insensitive but the job tends to attract those who are. For those of us who respect animals it's not easy to kill another living creature.
Keep this in mind: The earth does not need man to survive but man needs the earth to survive. Pass that along.
The Catholic Heretic
"I find that most people do
"I find that most people do not like the way farmed animals are treated."
I wonder how many people commenting here actually have any first hand knowledge or experience in how farmed animals are treated. From the comments, I doubt that it's very many.
I live in a subdivision on the edge of a small, rural city. Just across the ridge north of that subdivision is a friend's 160 acre farm; his house is about a mile north of mine. Each year he purchases about three dozen calves, raises and fattens them over the spring and summer, and sells them for slaughter in the fall.
I accompanied him two evenings ago on his nightly chores to check on and feed his herd. Those steers are currently grazing in a 40-acre fenced pasture. He has three other 40-acre plots currently fertilized and growing grass for when this pasture is grazed out. Each night the cattle receive supplements of commercial feed and stored hay; they came wondering over to our truck the moment we drove into through the gate. Those showing any sign of illness or parasites are given the appropriate injections.
I can't imagine how farm bovines could be treated any more humanely. It's simple economics. The better the animals are treated, the faster they grow and the more weight they gain and that means more profit when they're sold.
You are definitely right
You are definitely right about the earth does not need man, but we need it. I wish more people would have that attitude. So many people do not treat it with respect. I only wish for a better world where all people would treat animals and the environment with respect and compassion.
But that does not mean that
But that does not mean that animals have rights equal to the rest of us.
The laws of nature, not the laws of man, dictate that.
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
Every species should have the
Every species should have the same rights, be treated equally, with respect and humanely. The human being is only an animal and is not any more special than any other species. From what I see and read of what the human animal is capable of, it does not live up to its supposedly higher intelligence level.
Rights come with
Rights come with responsibilities. It is impossible for an animal other than humans to exercise, or even to conceive of behaving in a responsible manner. No responsibility? No rights.
Exactly, brolin1911a1. By the
Exactly, brolin1911a1.
By the way Cass Sunstein wants us to pay for attorneys to represent animals in lawsuits so that animals can sue their owners and such. The attorney would pretend to know the inner thoughts of the animals of course... Animal Law Schools have already been established. Seriously.
If all people would treat
If all people would treat animals humanely no matter what the case then we wouldn't have a problem. What is so wrong about humans treating other species on this planet with respect and humanely? They have every right to be treated this way as they are living creatures who do feel pain and suffer like we do.
Now that's a joke. Seems
Now that's a joke. Seems like the number of human animals behaving in a responsible manner is greatly decreasing. Most do not deserve rights at all!
Just plain ridiculous excuse
Just plain ridiculous excuse for abusing animals. If you want to talk about responsiblilities, humans have a responsibility to treat all life with respect.
I agree. Humans are supposed
I agree. Humans are supposed to be so intelligent compared to other animals and should have the brains to know to treat all animals with respect. However that is not the case at all.
Humans are animals with
Humans are animals with intelligence, and as such do have a responsibly to treat animals with the same respect we deem is just. Animals do act with responsibility in accordance with the laws of nature, even in a house with three dogs there is still a pecking order. So to assume animals are dumb is naive and ignorant in thought and gesture.
Where we must draw a line is in the manner by which we treat animals, should we slaughter them for food with a humane approach. I would submit to you that Dr. Temple Grandin made huge improvements in the humane treatment of cattle and the manner in which they are slaughtered. While still barbaric to some, her contributions to the industry brought it out of the dark ages, if you will.
Animals our companions to many of us be they cat, dog, mouse or other species. Our love for our pets puts them in a category of family for most, I know our dog is. To those who would do harm to animals because they are sick of feeding them look up a shelter or adoption agency. I advocate adoption, and our dog (Dyaln) was rescue, because we all deserve a second, third and fourth chance.
v/r Al D'Adda
if PETA would quit making
if PETA would quit making crap up that screams, "HEY GUYS! LOOK AT ME BE AN ATTENTION WHORE!" like the tanooki mario thing. maybe someone could take them seriously.
If it screams, it's not food
If it screams, it's not food -- yet." (Sorry, couldn't resist. :->)
Actually, the problem with
Actually, the problem with Peta is that they think that animal rights are more important than animal welfare. They are wrong, of course, but then what can we expect from people that are so completely brainwashed by their cult, and it IS a cult, that they no longer are able to tell right from wrong.
Animal welfare is what matters, not animal rights. Peta is nothing but a cult of pure evil that is run by their Grand Poobah for her own financial gain.
Just like any other cult.
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
We don't torture animals
We don't torture animals because it would corrupt our own morality. Even the word humane pertains to humans. Animals are and must remain property. Cops TASE human beings but "animal rights" activists don't want shock collars used on unruly and aggressive dogs. I accidentally nicked my granddaughter's thumb while trimming her nails the other day but "animal rights" activists want it dog breeders to be convicted of animal cruelty if they quick a dogs nails or it has mats in its hair. There's no common sense, no reasoning, only an air of superiority and ignorance. Animals aren't helpless and they do not have Constitutional rights.
Animals should have rights
Animals should have rights because they have to put up with ignorant human animals that abuse/torture and endanger them. No matter what you may think, the human animal is not alone on this planet. All other species deserve to be treated humanely and with respect. Humans who abuse/torture animals and the environment are the ones that should not have any rights!!!!
We don't torture animals
We don't torture animals because it would corrupt our own morality. The word humane pertains to humans. Animals do not have Constitutional rights. PEOPLE have Constitutional rights. Do not mistake this to mean anything other than is written.
Why should it matter if
Why should it matter if "humane" pertains to humans? What is wrong with human animals treating other animals humanely? There is no reason why animals other than humans can't be treated that way. The world would be a better place.
Jennifer should have
Jennifer should have mentioned right away that a road kill squirrel was used for realism to avoid any problems, but from the comments I see, it really looks like PETA needs to make a big attempt to renew their image as it has gone into the toilet. They can only blame themselves.
I live in West PLains, MO,
I live in West PLains, MO, the setting for "Winter's Bone," and feel a bit of regret for Jennifer that the squirrel was road kill and not freshly killed. The woods and forests here teem with "tree rats" and they are tasty eating as anyone from the area would be well aware. As with any wild animal, humane, controlled hunting maintains the population at optimal levels, preventing the periodic cycles of disease and starvation that result from uncontrolled population expansion.
Kudos to Jennifer for telling PETA where to put it and for her public declaration of her intent to own both a dog and a shotgun in whatever new home she buys. It's nice to see an actress who knows that meat isn't magically manufactured in the back room at Whole Food Mart. I'd hope for her to find some good, tasty squirrel recipes but just about any recipe for squirrel will meet that criteria.
Good for her. I've suddenly
Good for her. I've suddenly become a fan. PETA's far left agenda defeats it's stated purpose.
People who make these
People who make these comments about PETA know little or nothing about the organization, they're merely repeating things that they've heard somewhere, and don't realize that the original comments are coming from multi-billion dollar corporations that make their $$$ from torturing and killing animals. Most of them have had their business exposed at one time or another by undercover PETA investigations. They put out a lot of false stories in order to discredit PETA, and cover up their own evil doings.
Having said that, I think that this comment from Jennifer Lawrence is sad. It shows that she has no heart, and an animal's suffering means nothing to her. Unfortunately, people like her with that attitude towards animals are the reason why these companies that torture and kill animals continue to profit from their business.
In case your too busy to
In case your too busy to notice, PETA likes to take credit for some of their asinine stunts. The corporations don't have to spread lies when PETA is so proud of their terroristic tactics. That is why they are disliked so much. If PETA wants respect, they are going to have to earn it. Maybe they should start by showing respect instead of trying to offend 90% of the population.
PETA is a terrorist
PETA is a terrorist organization.
Haha... keep sucking down
Haha... keep sucking down that corporate propaganda Kool-aid, just like the Paula Qualls Gurley clown in the Facebook comments. Sometimes I can't believe how gullible and malleable people are. You've been well trained. Like Raptorcat believing Penn and Teller fabrications and nonsense. So easily manipulated, so naive. So... dare I say ... American.
Actually, it is YOU drinking
Actually, it is YOU drinking the kool-aid. The evidence is there for those NOT AFRAID TO LOOK FOR IT.
Peta IS, IN FACT, A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION AND CAN QUALIFY AS A CULT.
Your own defense of it, in complete contradiction of known and documented facts, proves that it is a cult; no different from the Branch Davidians, the GOP or the Kool-aid drinkers that followed Jim Jones to hell.
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned authority.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as "the truth".
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is inviting and challenging, particularly when presented to the weak-minded or easily swayed.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill psychological dependence on the group.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control and manipulate members.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using deception (propaganda) and fear tactics.
7) A history of psychological and/or spiritual abuses of group members that destroy/adversely affect lives.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive techniques to recruit and control members.
Cult groups DO NOT DEPEND SOLELY upon theological and spiritual persuasion to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize sophisticated techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately manipulate prospects and new converts. Massive propaganda campaigns are one tactic that is often used. (Peta, GOP, Scientology, ALF, WBC, DWOC, et al)
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not typically viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PRESENT among group members.
Perhaps more introspection and deeper investigation into those you are defending is in order; if you have the strength of character to take on that challenge. If you are typical of Peta supporters, you don't have that that kind of intellectual strength.
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
You said it. They have
You said it. They have repeatedly funded ALF bombers, and then tried to hide it. Inbred Newjerk and her crew of miscreants needs to have their 501(c)3 status removed and they need to be prosecuted for false advertising and involvement in domestic and international terrorist activities.
Penn and Teller did a scathing expose' on their hypocrisy in an episode of their show "Bullshit".
The one thing that I have noticed is that they are real tough in attacking old ladies in fur coats, but they haven't the courage of their conviction to try it on a bar full of leather clad bikers.
And to any Peta people out there; come on down to South Florida. I want to bring you to a bar that I hang out at.....and bring your paint.
I can't wait to see what the Outlaws do to you when you try to do something to them.
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
Every "animal rights"
Every "animal rights" organization I've ever looked into is made up of power hungry fanatics who will do almost anything, and I do mean anything to get what they want, which is you under their thumb.
"...crew of miscreants needs to have their 501(c)3 status removed and they need to be prosecuted for false advertising and involvement in domestic and international terrorist activities."
Look up HSUS Lobbygate by Frank Losey
IRS lobbying violations committed by Humane Society of the United States, acquisition of other "Animal Rights" groups, and the missing $500 million on HSUS tax returns...
There you go again putting it
There you go again putting it out there how bad you are - so macho....I would suspect that there's little to back up all that bravado......may the next squirrel you meet drop a very large nut on your head - :(
You would suspect wrong,
You would suspect wrong, then. When you have been and seen and done, then come and talk to me. Until then, stop being trollish before the villagers grab their pitchforks and light their torches on you.
I've partied with, and have a friend or two in the OL's; What have you got?
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
You should be aware that the
You should be aware that the Penn and Teller show was itself utter bullshit. It contain blatant fabrications and distortions, including interviews with people that weren't even from PETA and even laughable interviews with a paid-to-lie shill at the Center for Consumer Freedom! P&T did nothing but push their ignorant libertarian propaganda and prejudices. They were a huge disappointment, and it's just as sad to see equally ignorant people fall for their nonsense.
Spoken like a true Peta
Spoken like a true Peta supporter.
I can't speak for all of their shows, but I have been dealing with Peta nuts for a while now and tracking every little screw up and hypocrisy they commit; From their intentional killing of adoptable dogs and cats, promising their owners that they would get those same pets adopted (that one was in the newspapers a couple years ago, btw), to the fact that Newkirk herself, a diabetic that depends on insulin (derived from animals), doesn't really care about the "rights" of those animals when her own health is at stake.
And do not forget the benefits to both humans and animals that have come about from the animal testing that they oppose, or how about the fact that they have NO answer to the problem created by eliminating meat from the food supply, when cattle can and do thrive where crops for people to consume CAN NOT GROW.
So stop defending these liars at the Peta cult. They don't do their homework and apparently, neither did you.
Start with these articles and you might just learn a little more than you thought you did.
http://www.armyths.org/ http://www.synchronium.net/2009/01/06/animal-testing-and-species-differences/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12049624 http://www.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/267-myths-of-vegetarianism.html http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalcolon.asp http://www.pcrm.org/resch/ara/ http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index.php/2009/05/09/animal-rights-pernicious-nonsense-for-bo?blog=214 http://www.beloblog.com/KHOU_Animal_Attraction/2009/05/wendys-commits.html http://thespeciesistscorner.blogspot.com/ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W5W-4TWSWHD-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=72a7e2bf995f91dac361859d86c6f524 http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/258 http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm?headline=3859 http://deceiver.com/category/activists/peta-activists/ http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index.php/2009/04/26/on-ethical-vegetarianism?blog=214 http://www.nathanwinograd.com/ http://dailynews.mcmaster.ca/story.cfm?id=4626 http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1174 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/241184/Elephant-owner-says-video-of-Anne-s-abuse-was-staged http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index.php/2009/05/03/evolution-natural-rights-the-social-cont?blog=214
Peta, at it's highest levels, needs to walk it's talk, stop spreading propagandist lies, shut up and close it's doors forever.
Let Inbred find a new line of work. We all know what her cult actually is.
The insanity principle is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The far right, the far left, vegans, creationists and other extremists believe in the insanity principle, religiously.
I could see that at least
I could see that at least some of the links you posted are to The Center For Consumer Freedom's website.
The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), is an American non-profit firm that lobbies on behalf of the fast food, meat, alcohol and tobacco industries. It was set up by Rick Berman, the executive director of Berman and Company, a public affairs firm, with a $600,000 grant from the Philip Morris tobacco company, for the intention of fighting smoking curbs in restaurants. CFF is now funded by a number of companies from the food, alcohol and tobacco industries.
CCF has campaigned against a number of organizations, such as the Centers for Disease Control, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, The Humane Society of the United States, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), and Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, and has put up and maintained a number of websites aimed at attacking these organizations. The sites feature unproven charges and outright lies meant to discredit these groups.
PETA in particular became a target by its undercover work in exposing animal cruelty perpetrated by members of CCF, such as Philip Morris and its testing of cigarets using monkeys in its laboratories. PETA has also exposed factory farm cruelty.
Any information coming from The Center For Consumer Freedom is suspect to anyone who bothers to "do their homework".