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4 Pit Bulls Maul Seattle Intruder
SEATTLE --- Whether he accidentally climbed over the wrong ten-foot fence or was intending to burglarize the residence, a prowler in Seattle learned too late to the benefits of planning ahead. On December 13, the unidentified 2l-year-old man climbed over a ten-foot fence at a home in Seattle at about 9:00 p.m. and dropped into a yard containing four pit bulls, according to the Seattle Times.
The dogs attacked and mauled the intruder so badly that he could not walk, so the owner loaded him onto a pallet and used a hand truck to wheel him to the street, where he flagged down a passing vehicle and asked the driver to call 911.
The dog owner told police he heard the commotion and called the pit bulls off and placed them in their kennel.
An earlier KIRO-TV report stated that a neighbor said the man had his pants down when he climbed the fence, but that was not confirmed by authorities. The attack occurred in a neighborhood behind a Jack-In-The-Box on South Director Street and Rainier Avenue, police said.
The suspect was taken to Harborview Medical Center with multiple puncture wounds and extensive injuries to his head, arm, neck and ear, according to a Seattle Fire Department official, but his injuries were not life-threatening.
The pit bulls were allowed to stay with the owner, who provided licensing and veterinary records.
Seattle Animal Control will investigate the incident and determine whether the dogs have any previous history of biting and that rabies shots are all current, the Times reports.
Sgt. Sean Whitcomb of the Seattle Police Department said, “The person had no business being there and this was their dog run, so to speak,” Whitcomb said. “The dogs were blameless, they were merely protecting their area. We’re going to be requesting charges of criminal trespass on this person. It’s a misdemeanor level offense.”
Source: http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/12/4-pitbulls-attack-man-in-south-seattle/
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/man-attacked-pitbulls-had-pants-down-neighbor-says/nF3r6/
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I have a question for the pit
I have a question for the pit bull experts. I happen to like the dogs because they are very smart and fun loving. But when they see a strange animal, too often it's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde--boom, you've got an explosion and aggression that just won't stop. Other dogs that have been used for fighting have had the aggression bred out of them so that they are comfortable animals to own in a family or a community where other animals also need to be safe. Boxers and Great Danes used to be used for fighting but responsible breeders got that trait out of them. With all the good traits of pit bulls, why don't the breeders breed the gameness out of them on a major scale?
silva
I'm not an expert but there
I'm not an expert but there aren't many real breeders anymore most if not all do it solely to make money on selling the puppies, and they may not do it because it could create other traits we do not want them to have. pits have a high prey drive, my dog gets exited when she she's a squirrel but not crazy that I can't controll, not that she wants to kill it( maybe she does) idk but she def wants to check it out she doesn't know what that animal is
Just out of curiosity, and I
Just out of curiosity, and I realize you said you are not an expert, but what traits would be created that we don't want? In the two other breeds I mentioned, there hasn't been a replacement by undesirable traits that I know of and I have owned both Boxers and a Dane. They were great dogs. High energy level (especially the Boxers) but trustworthy around kids and other animals.
In my experience, the prey drive is what you'd want to tame down in the pit. I think a lot of what is termed "aggression" is actually a dominance or prey drive. We don't need that in city liviing. The dog doesn't have to chase and kill its food. Why not breed that quality out to a significant degree so that they are more manageable for the average owner who doesn't have a clue what he's getting into when he gets a pit and so they end up at the dog pound?
silva
Well I for one am done with
Well I for one am done with this article posts, it has gone from a discussion of the article to a fight over pit bull rights. All I can say is bad breed or not, the dogs backed off and returned to the owner as soon as he realized what happened! I would call this a very well trained pack of dogs all things considered.
All the other articles I read about them killing or maiming people are about “bad” dogs that run in a pack or team on their own. And even when the owner tries to stop them they ignore them. Unfortunately the media for some reason has made the pit the “star of the show”.
This kind of leads me full circle on my opinion of this, that it’s not usually the dog but the owner who is at fault.
Does not matter the breed, there are good dogs and bad dogs. You get a bad one put it down, it’s your responsibility! If you cannot properly train your dog, don’t get one. If you cannot control your dog don’t get one.
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ A mis-quote? Well worth checking out :-)
Hey, Ogre, hope you'll hang
Hey, Ogre, hope you'll hang in here long enough to comment on my question about breeding the aggression out of pits. I don't think people want to ban this dog just to get rid of a breed. They are afraid of the breed because too often it isn't possible to control them unless they are just totally kept isolated. Lots of honest, responsible owners say the dog never showed any aggression until it kills a neighbor's pet or attacks a kid it lives with. Can we have the pit bull without the aggression, just like what has been done with Boxers and Great Danes which both used to be fighting dogs?
silva
thank you, I'm not sayinall
thank you, I'm not sayinall pits are angels but most of them are with proper care and training and APBT are one of the least likely breeds to be human aggressive, l they love people
"Judging a dog by another
"Judging a dog by another dogs actions is like judging a person that knows a murderer...pointless. And it makes you look like an asshole." -- Heather Spivey
TEMPERAMENT TEST PAGE 1 which
TEMPERAMENT TEST PAGE 1
which breed has one of the highest results? the American Pit Bull Terrier, so all of you shut the fuck up and do some research before judge a breed, were not supposed to judge a person by what that look like or a certain ethnicity by things other people that are the same ethnicity right? are all Muslims terrorists? are all whites racists? are all pits fighters or killers, no, but yes some are but that's because that how they were trained and raised to be. http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/
Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent Afghan Hound 162 117 45 72.2% Airedale Terrier 102 79 23 77.5% Akbash Dog 16 14 2 87.5% Akita 534 406 128 76.0% Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog 10 7 3 70.0% Alaskan Klee Kai 2 1 1 50.0% Alaskan Malamute 224 191 33 85.3% American Bulldog 185 158 27 85.4% American Eskimo 83 68 15 81.9% American Foxhound 2 2 0 100.0% American Pit Bull Terrier 804 695 109 86.4% American Staffordshire Terrier 627 528 99 84.2% American Tunnel Terrier 2 2 0 100.0% American Water Spaniel 7 6 1 85.7% Anatolian Shepherd Dog 31 25 6 80.6% Australian Cattle Dog 187 148 39 79.1% Australian Kelpie 6 5 1 83.3% Australian Shepherd 641 523 118 81.6% Australian Terrier 16 13 3 81.3% Azawakh 1 1 0 100.0% Basenji 170 115 55 67.6% Basset Hound 35 30 5 85.7% Beagle 72 58 14 80.6% Bearded Collie 45 24 21 53.3% Beauceron 27 23 4 85.2% Bedlington Terrier 20 18 2 90.0% Belgian Lakenois 7 7 0 100.0%
Hey, PP, why don't you take
Hey, PP, why don't you take your own advice seeing that you are so ignorant as to bring up the ATTS. You don't even realize what it is, and it was never designed to determine suitability for pets, companion animals. Here, read this and then you shut the f**k up. http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/there-are-three-kinds-of-lies-lies.html
i do know it isn't testing
i do know it isn't testing for the suitability for pets, I'm saying that other breeds are aggressive to it's not just pits but that's what everyone else wants and thinks it is, that every other breed is an angel my lab wud never do that! not! how do u know? you dont. I have never been bit by a pit and I work in a shelter I've been bitten many times never a pit, my old black lab German shep mix bit me when I went to pet him while he was sleeping and I was 5 years old, I got bit walking down the sidewalk when the neighbors austrailian shep. husky mix that was in his front yard I was on the sidewalk in front of his house when he came to me and bit me, I got bit by a saint Bernard riding my bike because he got loose and chased me down and bit me I was 8 years old. but never have I been bit by a pit, I'm not saying it won't happen but other breeds bite to.
any dog is going to protect
any dog is going to protect his property, whether it be a chihuahua, a lab, or a pit any dog will bark and bite if it's in there yard.
Yeah, but Chi's don't rip off
Yeah, but Chi's don't rip off your ears, face and chew up your body like this. Even a Doberman will really "guard." They may let you in but will then block any attempt to exit, but they don't kill you just because you are there.
silva
well there is a law that if a
well there is a law that if a human is in my house without my permission and I feel threatened I can shoot him myself, so if thee on my property and my dog feels threatened what's she Gona do? she won't kill him but she sure ass hell with bite the fuckout of you until I get there, and then you'll get fucked up by me to.
By your logic all humans
By your logic all humans should be euthanized as we have the tendency to viciously protect our land and homes too...
some humans shud be
some humans shud be euthanized there the ones training a dog to b human aggressive. and there train them to be dog aggressive for the sole purpose of making money off there dog by forcing him to fight other dogs to the death, and or breeding to make money which is fucked up because there are already enough pits in the world that need homes and need asecond chance we don't need more, we need to help the ones that are here
Local TV in Seattle reported
Local TV in Seattle reported that the guy who landed in with the pit bulls was buck naked when the owner hauled him out on the pallet jack. This whole thing is a hoot except for the fact that he was hurt really bad.
Here's another story last week about a rescued pit that killed the old man who saved him and kept him for about five years.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/animal-rights/rescued-pit-bull-kills-owner-joseph-d-hines
silva
This is a really good point,
This is a really good point, NBY. This wasn't guarding. It was a massacre. I don't know how many dogs are allowed in Seattle but nobody needs four pit bulls for protection. Especially if it was true that this guy had his pants down or off it would show he was either under some kind of influence or not mentally right and that is a defense that would allow him to sue. If the dog owner's insurance company doesn't know he's got those four pits, the victim may end up owning that ten foot fence and everything that goes with it.
Ah I see you are a litigious
Ah I see you are a litigious idiot. My wife and I foster pit bulls and I have, right now, 7 pits or pit mixes. If someone breaks into my house and they attack due to being threatened then god help the intruder.
thank you! I have my baby
thank you! I have my baby that I rescued, wish I had room to foster some more
So what. The moron climbed
So what. The moron climbed over the fence.
There should be consequences for stupid actions. I'm sure dopey won't be climbing any fences for a good long time.
Karma's a bitch.... or a pitbull or 4.
When the court gets finished
When the court gets finished with the owner's insurance company, you'll know "so what."
silva
What if this had been a child
What if this had been a child chasing a ball or a meter reader? No one should have four pit bulls anyway. A true guard dog does not attack per se, it holds an intruder at bay until someone comes. So these pits weren't guarding, they were being the same old typical killer pits. This homeowner will be sued by the intruder and the intruder will probably win.
How would a child chase a
How would a child chase a ball over a 10 foot fence, genius?
Or a pervert or a rapist or a
Or a pervert or a rapist or a Jeffrey Dalmer wanna be, we could go on and on about this couldn’t we. WE don’t know the guys motives and it shouldn’t matter.
As for a “true” guard dog not attacking they hold an intruder at bay until someone comes. How do you know the guy wasn’t dumb enough to try and kick them or something?
And I’m sorry but a hunting dog holds things at “bay” until someone comes. A good guard dog is going to eat your ass if you are where you are not supposed to be! What good is a guard dog protecting something with the owner not present if it is just going to sit there and smile at a trespasser? If that’s what’s expected go buy a damn kitten!
He trespassed on private property that the owner obviously took great effort to try and keep private. The owner it seems also took extraordinary means to protect the public from his dogs, a 10 foot tall fence around them, common what honest law abiding citizen is going to climb over a ten foot tall fence?
Long as we are talking “what ifs?” What if this guy HAD walked right by this guy’s dogs entered his home raped his wife and daughter decapitated his son and murdered and robbed HIM? What would you have thought of reading this story?
Man walks right by 4 pit bulls kills and rapes woman and young girl, decapitates young boy and robs and murders husband?
You make it sound like you would have been happier if this guy would have been able to!
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ A mis-quote? Well worth checking out :-)
OO, a well trained guard dog
OO, a well trained guard dog does not attack, it will do as little as necessary to hold an intruder and that can include biting. Obviously you don't know anything about real guard dogs, you only know about wannabe guard dogs. If you did know, you would realize just how dumb your statements are.
NBY, pray tell me what makes
NBY, pray tell me what makes you the top expert on the subject? Are you a fully qualified dog trainer? And if so, are you a trainer of guard dogs?
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ A mis-quote? Well worth checking out :-)
It wasn't... and it
It wasn't... and it didn't..... Soooooo who gives a damn.
I'm sure all the neighbors knew of the dogs, only an intruder wouldn't.....
Karmas a bitch.
Karma sure will be when this
Karma sure will be when this homeowner is sued by that intruder which is highly likely. In Georgia, if a woman wakes with an "intruder" on top of her, trying to rape her, and she sprays hair spray in the face of the intruder, blinds him, he sues, he wins. I hope the law does come after this homeowner with 4 pit bulls, he needs to be in jail just for that fact.
The American Pit Bull Terrier
The American Pit Bull Terrier is a mixed breed and isn't registered by the AKC, so don't be deceived. The ADBA is the registry that registers fighting dogs and doesn't mind admitting it. For someone who is just a dog lover, Old Ogre has done a lot of research on this breed. The performance rather than conformance means a dog that will fight till it kills or dies. Sure you ain't into the game just a little, Old Ogre?
do some research before you
do some research before you go running your mouth and making shit up
Pit Bulls are wonderful
Pit Bulls are wonderful animals that deserve a chance to have a good life like any other dog. However, it’s important to remember that Pit Bulls are not just any other dog. They are a little more of everything a dog can be. Pit Bulls have great physical and mental characteristics that make them excellent partners for responsible, active, and caring owners. On the other hand, these same outstanding qualities can make them a little difficult to handle for people who don't have a lot of experience with dog ownership or for those who don't understand the breed very well. Luckily, Pit Bulls are very responsive to training and eager to please. It is therefore strongly recommended to take them to obedience classes as soon as they are up to date with their shots. (Pit Bulls are prone to distemper and parvo, so it is important that they receive all their vaccinations before coming into contact with other dogs or going places that other dogs frequent). A well-behaved and obedient Pit Bull will be a great ambassador for the breed and help fight prejudice and misconceptions.
Pit bulls are KILLERS,
Pit bulls are KILLERS, ripping faces off children, closed casket funerals, destroying families and communities. There's no prejudice, there are no misconceptions when it comes to the damages being done by pit bulls. The bloodsport that they were specifically designed to do is now illegal and so should be the pit bulls.
Dog Fighting is a crime, But
Dog Fighting is a crime, But so is discrimination.
No some pits are killers
No some pits are killers because there were raised to be, are all muslims terrorists? are all are ppl from southern states inbreds? are all whites in the KKK? are all Chinese bad drivers? do ql mexicans mow lawns and hang out a home depot all day?
Gene you are fucking stupid
Gene you are fucking stupid get your facts straight, he had four pits because he runs his own pitbull shelter out of his own pocket because he knows and I know that pits are misinterpreted and that it's not them that choose to fight, it's the owners. does a dog train itself? no it doesn't it's owner does, an if you owned a pit or just knew anything about them, you would know( this is in there characteristics ) that they strive to please there owners, so if there owners train them and want them to fight, they do it because they wants there owner to be happy.
PP, you are the perfect
PP, you are the perfect example of the type that should not own a pit. Look at your comment, the comment of a madman, an outsider, a sick, demented poor excuse for a human being. Then again, that pretty well describes the type of person who wants to take home a breed of dog designed, selectively designed, to kill. Not to be of service to mankind like other breeds, herding, hunting, guarding, the pit has no place in polite society. They have no purpose.
they have no purpose? really?
they have no purpose? really? well when so wine breaks Into my house and try's robbing me and or trying to kill me and my family and my pit attacks and hold them down while I'll call 911 an then beat his ass myself, and your lil chi, yorkie, wiener dog doesn't do shit and you get murdered il say I told to so. I hope someone try's Breaking into your house and your lil pussy dogs don't do shit
Well 4 of them didn't kill
Well 4 of them didn't kill that moron so guess your facts are completely WRONG!!!!!!
It depends on the dog, almost any dog can be dangerous. Cocker spaniels bite more people than pit bulls.
Now comes the Maul Talk. This
Now comes the Maul Talk. This is a site to help people understand all the excuses presented by the pit nutters. They are becoming so boring with the same old lame excuses but we will keep adding them if and when these fools can think of new ones. http://maultalk.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/all-dogs-bite/
Perhaps I can help clear up
Perhaps I can help clear up some misconceptions?
Quote from: http://www.ukcpitbull.com/pitblog/?p=21
“The American Pit Bull Terrier has been a registered purebred since prior to 1900. The reason for the variety is that these dogs have always been bred to perform, not conform”. This is a nice blog about the breed, has lots of info and pics, worth looking at.
You also might like to check this out, The American dog breeders Association.
http://www.adbadog.com/p_home.asp
Also I am not a bull owner, I am just a dog lover who hates to see any mutt get an undeserving bad rap and I have a quote I am quite fond of. Don’t shoot the dog, shoot the owner!
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ A mis-quote? Well worth checking out :-)
Finally a story where I get
Finally a story where I get to root for the pit bulls! I don’t know why the guy jumped the fence, but I bet he figured out it was there for a reason in a hurry ;-)
It makes me sad to think the breed might get banned or worse eventually. I don’t usually blame the dog I blame the owner, you own it your responsibility to make sure it is under control at all times. And so many people are ignorant of what their dogs breed was meant for, or worse know it and deliberately abuse it.
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ A mis-quote? Well worth checking out :-)
The intruder got what he
The intruder got what he deserved. My dogs would have done the same thing.. hop over my fence with my dogs outside they are going to protect their property and me. Almost any type of dog would do the same.. some are just more effecient. As far as the picture of the dog..I would say it is a pit bull type of dog. My main arguement with Mr. Tipton is he would say a pit bull is a breed of dog.. which it isnt. There are many breeds of dogs that are calle pit bulls. Also each dog needs to be evaluated individually... not all pit bull type dogs behave the same way. There are some pit bull type dogs that would not have attacked. These did and I am pretty sure mine would also.
waiting for the typical pit
waiting for the typical pit bull fan BS line... "but...but...but....the dog in the picture isnt a pit bull"
The only positive is that the dogs were on their own property, at least.