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Sarah Palin had Targeted Gabrielle Giffords with Gun Sights
During 2010, ex-Alaska Gov. and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted certain Democrats -- who were facing tough re-elections -- with gun sights.
One of those individuals was Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
Giffords was shot in the head Saturday in Tucson, Arizona during an attack that left a federal judge and a 9-year-old boy dead, as well as many injured. While Palin conveyed her condolences and called the shooting "tragic" on Saturday, her Facebook page last year included a map that featured 20 gun sights targeted by her political action committee SarahPAC. The three red gun sights were individuals who announced their retirements.
Here is the 2010 graffic from Palin's page:

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Wann see some Tea Party conservatives with swastikas? Huh? Huh?
http://sunversuswind.com/?p=96
"No (swastika) repeats."
"No to (swastika) Socialism."
Is anything sacred to the left?
But lets not forget one more group of “professional” reporters who love the “Southern Poverty Law Center.”
Remember Joe Stack, a disturbed man who crashed his small plane into an IRS building in Austin, Texas back in February, was not known to have any ties to any tea party group, any “patriot” group, or other right-wing groups. His manifesto reads like a confused communist rant with hate for the U.S. government and George W. Bush liberally sprinkled throughout. But NPR lumps this nut in with the right with claims that they are all dangerous to government officials and facilities.
NPR similarly uses as proof of these dangerous patriots the disturbed actions of John Patrick Bedell who opened fire on officers near the Pentagon on March 4. Bedell was an anti-war protestor, heavy marijuana user, and exhibited paranoia for which he refused to seek medical help. Bedell also has no known ties to tea party groups, any political organizations, or NPR’s frightening “patriot groups.”
Yet NPR put forth both of these sick-minded men as examples of “patriots” that have become dangerous and unstable. If NPR wasn’t saying so why include them in this report?
Naturally for its “expert” on dangerous patriots NPR turns to Mark Potok, the director of the liberal Southern Poverty Law Center. As always, Potok cites claims of a “huge growth in the so-called patriot movement that includes militias out there.” Not that NPR offers any actual proof other than Potok’s say so, of course. “We’ve seen in particular a huge growth in the so-called patriot movement that includes militias out there,” Potok says. “And I think that some of the violence that we’ve seen, such as the Pentagon shooter and the IRS, are at least in some way a reflection of that rage.” Potok says there are now more than 500 patriot and militia groups active in the U.S., more than triple the number in 2008. Again, NPR trots out Potok to warn of those evil, evil right-wing patriots and tries to back his claims up with two crazy people that have no ties at all to those same right-wing patriot groups that are being blamed for this “upsurge” in violence.
What NPR doesn’t tell you is the sort of people that work wt. the SPLC. Chip Berlet, for instance, is one of those people. Berlet has all sorts of extremist, left-wing associates (like anti-American billionaire financier George Soros) and is a member of other far left organizations such as the Socialist Workers Party. Here is an entry on Berlet in discoverthenetwork.org nestled in a page about the left-wing Tides Foundation: Berlet is a senior analyst for Political Research Associates, and has had affiliations with the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Friends Service Committee, the Christic Institute, the Socialist Workers Party, the National Lawyers Guild, and the Southern Poverty Law Center. To show how unbiased SLPC’s Chip Berlet is, he once wrote that, “right-wing foundations and think tanks support efforts to make bigoted and discredited ideas respectable.” Not too biased there, eh?
Discoverthenetwork.org also has a page on the SPLC itself.
So, for its expert on those monstrous patriot groups, NPR turns to a group that has ties to the Socialist Workers Party, George Soros, and the anti-Christian ACLU and then expects us to think such an organization should be accepted as an unbiased news source! Apparently NPR does expect us all to accept as gospel its left-biased report on how dangerous those “patriots” are, but I hope America is more skeptical than that.
Remember folks, our tax dollars support NPR.
Expert Commentary?
Last night I was channel surfing and stupidly stopped on the Pravda America (MSNBC) channel. Who did the delusional Keith Olbermann have on to converse with? A representative of the “Southern Poverty Law Center.” (This alone should instantly start your gag reflex).
So who else used to have these “experts” on their show all the time? Rick (I don’t have a job) Sanchez for one). (This should put that reflex in high gear).
Now the amazing thing about this interview was that I instantly knew what would be said. How could this be? Call me pychic?
Did the “representative” say this animal, psycho was a pot smoking delusionnal, left-wing murdurer? No, he commented about Tea Party connections because the alleged murderer mentioned taxes on his website. What?
Why does MSNBC continue to have the “Southern Poverty Law Center” come on all of your shows?
In an excellent report put out by the Center for Immigration Studies, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Jerry Kammer detailed the smear tactics used by the Southern Poverty Law Center to silence those in the immigration debate. Kammer shows that the SPLC’s attacks on immigration control organizations were carefully coordinated with the National Council of La Raza. La Raza means “The Race” in Spanish. The SPLC recklessly listed the Federation for American Immigration Reform as a hate group, just as La Raza began its “We Can Stop the Hate” campaign aimed at pushing FAIR from being quoted by the media or testifying at Congress. FAIR’s board of advisors includes such right-wing racists as former Democratic Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm and the former head of the Congressional Black Caucus foundation Frank Morris. Kammer shows that the SPLC even sees racism in the Lord of the Rings, which one of their columnists called “little more than a glorified vision of white patriarchy” in which the heroes “are manly men who are whiter than white” and “are frequently framed in halos of blinding bright light and exude a heavenly aura of all that is Eurocentric and good.” The SPLC not only sees no problems with left wing racists, they also have no problem with left wing terrorists. Their “Teaching Tolerance” magazine fawningly interviewed Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers, who they described merely as a “civil rights organizer, radical anti-Vietnam War activist, teacher and author” who “has developed a rich vision of teaching that interweaves passion, responsibility and self-reflection.” They did not mention that Ayers set off bombs in the US Capitol, the Pentagon, and the New York City Police Department. Unrepentant, he told the New York Times in 2000 “I don’t regret setting bombs…I feel we didn’t do enough.” Gabrielle Lyon, a fellow with the SPLC’s Teaching Tolerance project co-edited a book with William Ayers and was director of his School Change Institute at the Small Schools Workshop.
That’s the SPLC in a nutshell. The Lord of the Rings is racist, but a group called “The Race” is not. Patriotic Tea Partiers are potential terrorists, but actual terrorists like Bill Ayers are civil rights organizers.
The source is always considered
When Dianne Feinstein (D.-Hell) brandished an AK-type semiauto rifle at Congress (finger on trigger) and said "I have to tell you, I feel like taking some of you [opponents of gun bans]out," that must have been what? An invitation to go to the shooting range for a little friendly sport?
The Democrat candidates placed bull's-eye targets over districts they wanted to win. In THEIR case, it's obviously figurative, not a threat of violence. But Sarah Palin has been on TV with a gun in her hands. Sarah Palin is a self-described "rogue." (Never mind that she's about as much a "rogue Republican" as my dead grandmother.)
Dianne Feinstein has a concealed carry handgun permit for DC and the CAPITOL.
Nancy Pelosi said trying to rescind Obamacare is "an act of violence." Disagreeing with the Powers That Be is insane, you see, and putting your disagreement in the form of a vote is "violent." Their attitude is the same as Jeff Dunham's Achmed the Dead Terrorist dummy. "Silence! I keel you!"
totally
As a freedom loving non-partisan constitution loving conservative who is as embarrassed by what the republicans have done to the country as the democrats, i have to say that this does not surprise me.
freedom of expression is important, but their is responsibility that comes with it. just because you can do something does not mean you should. i feel that using this kind of violent imagery really creates the impression that she is partially responsible for this. while i think sarah is a dunderhead, i do not think she is so stupid that she would not know that there are retarded people who follow her and might see something literal in her figurative artwork.
it really makes me sad, and i think deep down inside we all knew this was going to happen sooner or later.
now, our enemies have more ammunition to use to take more of our constitutional rights. they are rats, and they will use this messed up kid as an excuse to take away our rights to defend ourselves.
It's gonna hard to get the
---- back in the horse now, for Polar Cow, and the like of her.
This particular shooter could have picked anyone, he hated everyone it seems.
Bring the Nut Houses back!
What puzzles me is.
A US Congresswoman and a Federal Judge no police officer's.
These threats have existed for some time.
Who's call was it to have or not have Police Officers at this event?
Gabe Zimmerman, I'd say.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47288.html
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Probably
They need to rethink how safe things are.
According to the Murderer the powers that be, are in bed together.
Same kind of creeps killed two cops here across the river last year, except this one drank way too much koolaid. I'm seeing posts by these anarchists here and there.
Like there are more than one in the same mindset. Just hope they keep posting til they can be engaged in conversation in person.
I don't do twitter, but Sarah Palin does might see what she's saying or not saying.
Tragic Day for Americans
That's what's troubling about the finger-pointing.
People trying to tie this to the Tea Party or to Mrs. Palin is troubling. She had nothing to do with this guy's mental illness, his wanting for free college, his decision to try and kill a Representative, or his decision to try and kill (and sometimes succeed in killing) everyone nearby.
In fact, officials are saying that the attack could have just been a case of him wanting to kill any representative of government and that he was deranged, paranoid and probably schizophrenic.
However, a Palin fan and Tea Party supporter he was not, regardless of his skin color. His favorite book list included the Communist Manifesto. There were plenty of others, but what Tea Party member can you imagine who would favorite that one? Furthermore, his only favorite YouTube video was of a guy burning an American flag. Again, Tea Party behavior this isn't. Then there are all of the other books; aren't Tea Party people ignorant illiterate hicks as the left has been saying since the inception? Also, he was only 22. Hardly the 'Old White Men' starring in every leftist imagining of the Tea Party.
There are more things pointing to him being an anarchist/atheist than are pointing to him being of any political fold. But that does not stop the leftist rags (And Mr. McNulty) from trying to capitalize from this tragedy in order to score cheap points against Palin over the still warm blood of the fallen.
It is really sad. There should be some shame involved, but I won't hold my breath.
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Yes I agree
This murderer is not alone in his thinking though, and this is just the tip of the iceberg he is part of.
I would hazard a guess that this guy could have attended a Tea Party Rally looking for confederates at some point, maybe not.
That don't make him a Tea Party member, but does speak for what image the Tea Party is perceived as promoting.
The Tea party has a wide collection of people including a few Democrats.
I don't go to church, but that don't mean I don't share some of the same values as people who do go.
But when the rhetoric borders on violence, people take notice. I will er on the side of caution.
We've had killers controlled by talking dogs, so there is nothing off the table here.
I think that if you really felt like you say,
That Palin's rhetoric gets people killed, how, pray tell do you feel about Obama's rhetoric?
Do you agree that some Americans are your "enemies"?
Is your indignation based on the disagreement with allegedly violent rhetoric or is it simply a manifestation of your hate for Palin?
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The rhetoric,
although intended metaphorically by Palin, is seen as poor taste to me.
Contrary to popular opinion I don't have a obsession with Palin :)
Her desperate pandering to ignorant reactionary people, speaks for itself.
I can't think of any violent rhetoric coming from Obama, even metaphorically.
That said, I find far right or left views of how we should run our country too extreme.
What some of us are capable of remains to be seen, but I would not be surprised, if we see more of these violent situations. I fear this is not the end of the problem for the USA, and these people will not stop til the country is no more.
When we have half of the population on one side wanting it their way and the other half their way, anythings bound to happen.
Civil War is not what either group wants I would hope, but the metaphor gets batted around with sayings like "This is War"
Enemies of the rule of law are not Americans, they are Bullies, and Terrorists. Anyone who wants to climb in bed with them, is guilty by association.
Delusional conspiracy theories seem to dominate the thoughts of many unhappy people living here in the USA.
To include them in any political discourse is irresponsible, when building a consensus for political gain.
Change is something that should be rational not ideological, and then only in moderation.
The recent sweeping legislation such as Health Care in my opinion, is not what we liberals envisioned. We got sold out too.
It would be nice to have a Cadillac, but if it has no tires, it don't get anywhere. Big insurance is still in control of Health Care.
I learned in the Navy that saving the ship is paramount to survival. I regard my country and home the same way. Caution, is in order here, more than ever.
With this recent violence I think we could all do a little Crow Eating, and move on in a more civil fashion. If that requires the punditry to retire so be it.
They all do it, and the media spreads it around.
There is absolutely zero proof, or even suggestion, that this act of violence was prompted by fiery rhetoric by anyone. The Director of the FBI says that there is no known motive and refuses to speculate at this point. This is the appropriate response, seeing as how there is no evidence that the shooter was a DittoHead, a FOX News reader, a fan of Palin's, or cried along with Beck.
When we see those operatives on the far left stepping over warm, freshly-dead bodies in order to blame Palin, I shake my head at the insanity of it all. Why is there no shame? Are political points so desperately needed that it is acceptable to paint them on the scorecard in the still-thin blood of the fallen? There should be shame, but I see none.
As for you not remembering Obama engaging in violent rhetoric, I could remind you of when he referred to those against illegal immigrants as "the enemy", or when he advised (metaphorically, of course, just like all other rhetoric) "when they bring a knife to the fight, bring a gun!"
One could argue that this tragedy was spurred by those on the left, like Obama. One could point to all manner of Tea Party disqualifies in the shooter's online profile alone, one can argue that those as criminally deranged as this asshat was aren't reasonable enough to even form a coherent political philosophy altogether.
But to place this at the feet of a woman whose rhetoric was not likely to ever have been seen by this nutball is morbidly disrespectful to those who lost their lives.
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mean spirited
I have met people like this Murderer, they don't give a hoot for politics.
The Media is to blame for the perceived level of violence that is, seen as a permissible, or tolerated by crazy people. To lay the blame for this sad crime at anyone's feet other than this Murderer is inappropriate, disrespectful, and mean spirited.
That's not going to stop the spin doctors, all we can do is not repeat the BS.
Well said.
"To lay the blame for this sad crime at anyone's feet other than this Murderer is inappropriate, disrespectful, and mean spirited."
I agree it is vitally important that we all remember that this guy was the one who planned and executed this tragedy and that he should be the one who pays the price. Well said, Mark.
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Well said.
"To lay the blame for this sad crime at anyone's feet other than this Murderer is inappropriate, disrespectful, and mean spirited."
I agree it is vitally important that we all remember that this guy was the one who planned and executed this tragedy and that he should be the one who pays the price. Well said, Mark.
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Get a grip
Shooting metaphors are common in American english. Here you can see Kos has used them in the past:
http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png?w=510&h=384
Really, this is an attempt to make a big deal about nothing. Kos is fine using this kind of language, and so is Sarah Palin. No one seriously thinks they meant to go shoot anyone!
Get a grip people.
...and Obama called Republicans "hostage-takers"
Do liberals know the difference between figurative and literal?
Huffington Post headline:
Democrats Target Tea Party-Backed Candidates On Social Issues
Could be interpreted lots of ways, huh?
Printer's registration marks and nautical architects' center-of-effort markers look like crosshairs too.
Expressions
When people use expressions like "targeting" someone, a nut case is bound to surface to do the will of their higher power. It is same thing as when people complain about angry musical lyrics and then wonder why kids who listen to those lyrics are mad all the time?
I believe political parties have a duty to dispute things in a civil way. To agree to disagree, and to make MAJORITY pleasing -principled comprises.
agree
Agree and recommend this one also, specially the 1st paragraph, point well made. The irresponsible rhetoric of Ms. Palin and her lunatic followers is just begining to show the expected results well pointed out previously by Larry Linn. I wonder where is McCain going to hide his face if he has any shame left.
Palin Gun Sights
When I saw Palin's gun sights marking her targets, I said to my wife, "If any of these people are shot, Palin will have their blood on her hands." Sarah, go wash your hands!
What blood would that be?
From what's known of the shooter thus far, it doesn't appear that he would have been a fan of Palins' at all. Some of that information was provided to you just prior to you beginning your jab, but you must have quit reading it once you saw that it didn't support your preconcieved notion.
I don't follow anyone, because those that appear to be on the same path usually end up just getting in my way.
Expression with responsibility.
There a people with sociopathic tendencies in all political realms. John Hinckley, Jr., was not motivated to advance a political position. He was motivated by a target. Public figures should be civil and cautious in their actions, comments, and other expressions. I was offended by Sarah Palin listing people as targets and using riflescope crosshairs. I would be equally offended if the same technique were used by a liberal, a moderate, or any other political persona.
And...
That puts this blood on Palins' hands instead of the shooters'? She may be guilty of offending you, but she's innocent of inspiring this guy to shoot all these people.
I don't follow anyone, because those that appear to be on the same path usually end up just getting in my way.
agree
Agree and recommended! However she is not going to be able to wash her conscience and mind. This woman is a danger and a shame to the nation, should be institutionalize.
The liberal blogosphere is abuzz
With these types of accusations.
What is not commonly discussed is:
-- According to the shooter's Youtube page, this guy was a revolutionary and an atheist. He seemed paranoid about Government mind control and brainwashing.
-- He was being recruited into the military and was upset about having received a mini-bible.
-- He looks down upon the many people in the 8th district, calling them "illiterate".
-- He is heavily anti-government, especially against U.S. Currency, and thinks paying for college is "unconstitutional".
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10 #p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4
Also not discussed is the fact that Rep. Giffords is a moderate/conservative "Blue Dog" Democrat. She is all for securing our southern border, gun rights, space exploration, and other conservative values.
The ignoble leap being made in the liberal areas of the blogosphere are baseless knee-jerk reactions by those who have formed their opinion without having the facts. Or, in other words: Business as usual.
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Ignoble leap! Really?
Are you trying to suggest that this nutball wouldn't be in the least, ever, possibly be influenced by Sarah Palin.
The right wing has made great headway in the past 2 years using inflammatory rhetoric. The tea party movement has been stirred up by the time tested technique of rabble rousing.
Is there a direct line between, say, Palin's targeting congressmen with gun sights and Loughner's attack?
Who knows? You don't. No one, except Loughner himself, knows whether or not he was influenced by Palin's campaign.
But it doesn't take much imagination to think that someone as deranged as Loughner (judging by his illiterate and incomprehensible diatribe on his website) could be influenced by Palin and the rest of the rabble rousing right wing.
If your theory was true...
Then why did Hicap McPsycho try to kill one of the most conservative Dems in the house?
Was it due to her strong 2nd Amendment support?
Was it due to her siding with Obama's "enemies" over immigration reform? (Yes, Obama rabble-rouses also, and with a bigger microphone.)
Was it due to her voting against Pelosi for speaker?
You see, couple some of the reality of today's politics with the shooter's obvious left-wing leanings (his favorite youtube vid is a guy burning a U.S. Flag-- not exactly Tea Party material.) and we get a really, really fuzzy picture of the mindset of this guy.
Therefore blaming Mrs Palin's months old picture is crass, petty and cheap-as-hell partisan politics.
So, yeas. REALLY, FordTheWeb.
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Jumping to judgement to attack opponents is sad
Well said, SolarSanitizer!
Before all the facts were in about this shooter, liberal stations and the blogs were quick to focus on gun sights on Palin's PAC website. I hope liberal readers here will see how quick some of their colleagues are to take any tragedy and use it for ad hominum attacks on conservatives they despise (i.e. hate - although they never view themselves as being hateful.)
It turns out, after less than 24 hours, that we know the shooter:
- wrote rambling, incoherent missives about government mind control, that the currency is harmful, that the police have no right to exist; that some of his favorite books were written by Hitler and Marx (no craziness there); that he was denied entrance into the Army, was a loner, etc. etc. etc.
Yet, rather than wait for the facts - while some victims were still in surgery - it was time to blame a most HATED conservative spokesman, Sarah Palin, for an analogy using gun sights to indicate which Representatives she felt needed to be "targeted" for defeat in an election.
I cannot wait to see if anyone can find other politicians who have used the gun sight in their advertisements and web sites - if any Democratic/liberal ones are found - I assure you nothing will be said about it.
Palin isn't really a politician.
And, yes, the left uses the same exact tactic.
http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png?w=510&h=384
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The spin is on it's way.
That target could be used for a Nerf dart gun, and those are used with your friends to have fun. Conservatives want to put your lights out, not your eye.
I don't follow anyone, because those that appear to be on the same path usually end up just getting in my way.
How should Sarah P. feel today?
Most intelligent people know how Ms. P should feel today, but today is too late. Given the fact that she lacked the feeling, the intelligence and the foresight to avoid doing the "gun sites" to begin with, it is rather doubtful that she gets it even today. The fact that she has defenders such as yourself, shouldn't make any American feel better. She and most of the others of her "political" ilk have been spreading fear and hatred for the purposes of political and personal gain. Shame on all of you! I am a veteran and find the fact that you and the movement that spawned you have the nerve to wrap yourself in an American Flag is down right deplorable -- you are turning it into a butcher's apron!
Thank you for making my point.
You ignore the reality and focus on drawing political points on the scoreboard in the blood of the victims.
Where Mrs Palin feels shocked and outraged like the rest of polite society, you and your ilk are giggling gleefully that you have something you can use to further debase a once-ran Veep candidate.
When are you going to seek help for your pathological Palin hate and move on with your life? Does she literally have to be killed for you scum to give it a break?
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Not giffling, nor talking about killing...
these are things that have come out of your mind (cyber mouth). Thanks for proving my point!
What is giffling?
What are you talking about. Please clarify.
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A typo,,,
Yes it is a mistake, but not one as big as running Sarah P. for Vice President. Go sanitize your conscience.
Okay...
What was the word BEFORE it was misspelled?
Understand that I am not begrudging a typo, we all make them. I just would like to know what you are saying before I jump to conclusions in my response. That concept might be alien to those who want to tie this tragedy around Palin's neck in order to ghoulishly score cheap political points over the cooling bodies of the victims.
You and your ilk should be ashamed for your actions and if you animals were capable of shame, you would be.
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Spreading Hate - a bipartisan effort
So you think that a 22 year old, evidently disturbed and probably mentally ill shooter went to Sarah Palin's PAC site and found inspiration? Really?
Had Palin put gun sights on the individual faces of the Representatives, you'd have some validity. She put sights on the geographic areas of their districts - and then put red sights on those who had RESIGNED. Clear evidence that she wanted them out of office - not harmed in any way.
It is a classic ploy and misbelief of some that those who are against illegal immigration hate Hispanics and those that don't want blanket searching of all flyers, instead of focusing on specific groups, are Muslim/middle eastern haters; that those who want lower taxes , to constrain and reduce inefficient social programs hate the poor and ill.
To suggest that conservatives "wrap" ourselves around the American Flag any more than any other political groups is simply wrong. I recall seeing lots and lots of American Flags at all political rallies, my entire live.
Believing in small government, that government is ineffective and inefficient at solving many social ills; that taxing to fund these social programs harms all and the economy; and that securing our borders is important does NOT mean one hates the poor, any minorities or disadvantaged and does not mean one hates anyone (of any race ) who is legally here.
These notions of HATE are false, simple, easy constructs - that are equally hateful. The tone of your last post is proof of that.
Was Sarah not Wrong?
You have put words in my communication that were never their. My point was that Sarah P. utilized an aggressive and potentially inflamatory means of communication. This was not an intelligent choice and not one that is generally made by a level-headed and responsible communicator. It is a choice that is made by one looking to whip things into a frenzy, capitalize on fear and hatred. It is certainly not one that we would expect a responsible leader to make.
I am sorry to say that fear and hatred are indeed being sewn and capitalized upon. It is an underlying disease of the right's political persuasion and the communicator has the responsibility to consider the effect of their communication on all those being communicated with. Arizona's unfortunate shootings and killings are merely a symptom of this disease on a diseased mind. Sarah P. had the responsibility to consider the potential of something like this when she was selecting her methods of communications. Would we expect to see gun sites as part of a communication from a President or Vice President of our country? Sarah P. knew that these sites were images that had the ability to raise the political temperature of those who followed her and that is why she used them.
I also find it interesting that you chose to capitalize "hate" in your communication. You doth protest too much!
I doth protest too much?
You say that I "have put words in" your "communication that were never their" (sic).
I put "words" in my comments about your communication that were precisely there. I capitalized the word "hate" as it is the classic double speak of liberals who use the words "hate" and "hateful" to describe non-hateful, reasoned ideas of the right that the left disagrees with. When they cannot counter the arguments, they ascribe "hate" to the speaker. This is precisely what you said in your post.
You are correct, I doth protest stridently that liberals use "hate", "racist", etc as a weapon to silence political speech they disagree with....and that tactic is hateful.
You comments in the post on which I commented are typical of this. You wrote:
"My point was that Sarah P. utilized an aggressive and potentially inflamatory means of communication. This was not an intelligent choice and not one that is generally made by a level-headed and responsible communicator. It is a choice that is made by one looking to whip things into a frenzy, capitalize on fear and hatred. It is certainly not one that we would expect a responsible leader to make."
You specifically imply that Palin's use of a gun sight icon to emphasize districts she suggested "targeting" for enhanced political campaigning was unreasonable, not level-headed, potentially inflammatory and was intended to whip things into a frenzy and capitalize on fear and hatred. Really? Really?
Perhaps you'll next suggest that using the terms "war on" does the same? War after all involves the destruction and killing of the enemy. You also state that Presidents and Vice Presidents would never to that!? But wait, they do.
Perhaps their use of "war on crime " is inflammatory and would incite some to kill criminals; and that the "war on poverty" will incite hatred and murder of the poor? After all, "war" is a much more violent symbol than a mere gun sight.
You are correct when you write that "Sarah P knew that these sites were images that had the ability to raise the political temperature of those who followed her and that is why she used them."
The political temperature she intended to raise was an awareness and focus of increased energy towards defeating representatives in congressional districts with opposing candidates who shared her views. Nothing more.
Your suggestion that the gun site icon she used to mark these areas was designed incite fear and hatred (to use your exact words) is specious.
Finally, I could certainly state "shame on you" for writing: "She and most of the others of her "political" ilk have been spreading fear and hatred for the purposes of political and personal gain. Shame on all of you!"
Her writings, web site, PAC and work are efforts to reasonably, intelligently, legally, non-violently, quite properly use the political process to effect change she believes in. She and everyone else has the right to do so.
That you disagree does not make what she did hateful in any form.
Dear NOTaHater
You continue to claim things in my communications that are not there. I think your chosen name says it all. Most people reading your communications know what you are no matter what you call yourself.
I respectfully disagree with you. I feel sorry for the fact that you probably believe that you are in the right and that Sarah P. was just fine with her choice of communication tools. And, sorry, the word "intelligent" is not one that most of the country associates with Ms Palin. Hopefully, this will be her undoing! See you at the polls!
You continue to claim things in my communications that are not there?
To state that, "You continue to claim things in my communications that are not there.", when I specifically and directly quote you is remarkable.
To them choose not to comment or refute any of my assertions made in direct comment to what you said is regrettable, and then choose only to make ad hominem criticisms about my screen name instead of the ideas put forth is quite typical.
Our respective sides recently met at the polls.
The end.
The bottom line is that Sarah P. made a very bad choice, one that defines the nature of her and the rights communications. Now we have dead and wounded. End of story and hopefully, the end of whatever hopes Sarah P. had of becoming a legitimate political figure in this country.
Fuddy duddy
You sure do know how to kill a feel good moment.
I don't follow anyone, because those that appear to be on the same path usually end up just getting in my way.
Perhaps I do.
I figured a "teachable moment" might better add to the discussion.
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