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Ron Paul-"Warmongering" On Iran Sounds Like Lead-Up to Iraq War

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(September 29, 2009) in Politics / Foreign Policy
Congressman Ron Paul says the neo-conservative "warmongering" on Iran sounds suspiciously like the talk leading up to the war in Iraq. He also says sanctions against Iran for their nuclear ambitions would not help to alleviate the situation. Watch more:

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  • CivilRadiant
    Logic

    It's too bad most Americans can't handle this much truth. Ron Paul is the best thing to happen to this country in a long time.

    - CivilRadiantUS September 29, 2009 3:44PM

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    • SolarSanitizer
      He sure is.

      Sometimes I find myself holding a viewpoint which opposes that of Dr. Paul. In every instance, I reexamine my opinion and find that I was on the wrong side of the argument.

      He is as smart as he is wise as he is fair. Dr. Paul would make a fantastic Supreme Court Justice or President.

      - SolarSanitizerUS September 29, 2009 6:38PM

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  • quantummechanik
    I'm actually cool with this

    Iran cannot, cannot get nuclear weapons. G-d willing, the US, the UN and Israel stop this before it gets out of hand.

    - quantummechanikUS September 30, 2009 10:16AM

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    • Submariner
      Yes, we need more war...

      Why not just let God take care of Iran?

      And what is Israel going to do? Nuke them? That would sure be a great solution. They do not have a chance without the US backing them, and the UN is not likely to confront Iran since it's being compliant with regulations.

      As far as I can tell, all of these aggressors in the Middle East are not worth risking our people, and frankly, if it were not for all the profiteering by oil companies and international banking most of the Middle East would not be capable of this nonsense, and if we had not contrived the state of Israel after the war, they would not be near as motivated towards aggression.

      - Submariner October 1, 2009 1:34AM

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      • quantummechanik
        "Our people"

        Man, the antisemitism continues with you.

        Jewish death isn't something you're willing to commit military resources to because any Jewish death is their own fault for being there in the first place.

        - quantummechanikUS October 1, 2009 3:37PM

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        • Submariner
          What do WE mean "our" people?

          Your use of "antisemitism" attribution to defend your complete lack of objectivity is a betrayal of the innocent victims of actual antisemism. You should be ashamed.

          If it is unduly disciminative to be against going to war for another country without just cause, then so be it.

          Frankly, I would be fine if everyone in Israel came to live with me if it ends all the constant strife it's presence causes, and removed the single most likely cause of the next nuclear attack that might occur.

          Israel is a nation - it loses its race card when it can't help but attack US Navy ships and Palestinian children alike.

          Get a clue before you try to put words in my mouth. I am not afraid of your pandering. The OP may be, but I doubt it. I don't believe in God and I see no reason for Israel to pick the path of most resistance, but that is extent of my antisemitism. You might as well call it Athiesm with a flare for not killing lots of innocent's.

          I ask again, why do you not let "G-d" sort it out? See how far that get's you.

          - Submariner October 1, 2009 6:03PM

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          • quantummechanik
            Where exactly do you live

            That YOUR people didn't take from someone else, out of curiousity? It's funny that an awful lot of european-descended Americans rail against what they see as an occupation.

            You want to know what the path of most resistance is? Going back to diaspora, where the Jews have to live seperated and without a homeland. In EVERY country that we've settled in, we've been either driven out or eliminated. Saying "That didn't happen" is anti-semitic, and idiotic. Saying "They deserve it" is anti-semitic, and idiotic. Saying "They still shouldn't have a homeland, they don't deserve the safety of that" is anti-semitic and idiotic. Which of these things are you saying?

            - quantummechanikUS October 2, 2009 10:38AM

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            • Submariner
              Hawaii, actually. It's nice this time of millennia...

              And I'm mostly Native American, Native British Isles, and a couple generations in Texas, so please don't think I only rail against Israeli occupation. I also rail against Anglo-Saxon occupation in Scotland, European occupation in the America's, and government occupation in Texas.

              I am not saying anything like that. That's why I percieved a strayman in your accusation. So what am I saying?

              I am saying that your "They" is not really a hollistic view of the Hebrew people. Israel is a nation, a member of non proliferation (which Iran is not), and a military force opposed to most of their neighbors and even some of their inhabitants. How may Jew's live elsewhere in the world without having to deal with suicide bombers or without having to blow up children with tanks and helicopters?

              I am saying that Israel as it is now known was predicated on a very liberal high ground but executes it's soveriegnty with a might-makes-right philosophy. And it does so mostly on the charity of the US tax payer and if this were not absolutely the case, they would not have one of the largest lobbies in the US.

              I am saying any position that motivates people in cities to kill innocent people constantly is not defensible. The humans rights violations and obstruction of the press and justice itself throughout the middle east is at a peak in occupied area's in Israel. "He hit me first" is not a satisfactory explanation for this situation.

              I am saying that Ron Paul should be able to speak out against warmongering without being labelled an antisemitic (not saying you have done so, but it is happening). People are cautioned or restrained from questioning our roles in the middle east whenever it's not favorable to Israel. The fact is there is at least as much cause for the Iranian PEOPLE to despise western influence as we have cause to despise the Iranian government's policies.

              And I am saying that the religious conflict is the most flagrant aspect of our civilizations social and technological adolescence. People are posturing to wipe each other out over their imaginary friends and fear of the psychological rapists that peddle them. There is no Holy Land for any one People.

              What there is, is a world we all must share that is in constant threat of annihilation for petty nonsense.

              We should not be willing to tolerate that. And we should be able to discuss it without being arbitrarily demonized, especially out of hypocrisy.

              - Submariner October 2, 2009 4:50PM

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              • quantummechanik
                The Jews of the world

                are as under siege as any of them in Israel--not as directly, but even a cursory glance at history will show time and time again what happens to Jews. Israel isn't about the Palestinians vs. the Israelis, it's about the world vs. the Jewish people. Outside of Israel, we also have to deal with terrorist attacks in our community centers and temples, attacks in the street, etc.

                The concept of Israel as a military force acting in opposition to the other countries of the region is once again a very narrow viewpoint. Of course right now they've got a massive military presence on all borders--people keep attacking them. And they don't attack them on the basis of border disputes, or philosophical differences. This isn't in any sense a traditional war, where one is trying to gain enough ground and stop. The goal is, and always has been, "Drive the Jews into the Sea."

                Do you believe that Hitler REALLY only cared about purifying his own country of Jewry, that he wasn't at all interested in a global solution? Do you think that pogroms on Russian villages were all unrelated? Such as it is with the war in the middle east . One side isn't fighting for ground--It's fighting for the complete destruction of the other side. The IDF isn't fighting for territory, it's fighting for survival. And as we see with attacks within the US and Canada, they are trying to kill all of us, everywhere.

                As for human rights and press supression, perhaps examine North Korea.

                - quantummechanikUS October 3, 2009 10:24AM

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    • countryboy
      Think about it

      You should know the outcome of this its in your holy book.

      - countryboyUS October 1, 2009 5:37PM

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      • quantummechanik
        Not really...

        We don't have outcomes of war or sporting events in our holy book.

        - quantummechanikUS October 2, 2009 10:35AM

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        • countryboy
          Study it

          You have not read it have you?

          - countryboyUS October 2, 2009 9:46PM

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          • quantummechanik
            I've read it a bunch

            The Torah doesn't give answers as to who wins future wars.

            - quantummechanikUS October 6, 2009 10:44PM

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            • countryboy
              study

              It tells you a lot about the things going on now

              - countryboyUS October 11, 2009 10:02PM

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  • CornetMustich
    Why the double standard?

    I agree with Ron Paul .

    What crisis? It's made up.

    What about Israel's nukes? Why the double standard? When did they allow inspectors into Israel-Palestine?

    Leave Iran allow.

    - CornetMustichUS September 30, 2009 1:45PM

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  • countryboy
    Ron Paul is right

    Ron Paul is so right on this.Its to bad he's not the President.Ron Paul 2012

    - countryboyUS September 30, 2009 4:52PM

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    • Submariner
      He needs a new party

      Unless he starts hollering about executing evolutionary biologists and building laser fences on the border he won't get the support from his party.

      I wonder if Mike Moore talked to him about the Federal Reserve for his new movie...

      - Submariner October 1, 2009 1:38AM

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      • countryboy
        New party

        He's ben looking into it.I can only hope he changes to the libertarian party.

        - countryboyUS October 1, 2009 5:13PM

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      • SolarSanitizer
        That is a wild exaggeration.

        And you know it. Can't you ever make a point without being a douchenozzle?

        - SolarSanitizerUS October 6, 2009 7:09PM

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  • Submariner
    3 Cheers

    One of the last true conservatives, and a Doctor from Texas no less.

    A rare and precious gem this man is.

    Everyone pay attention as the "system" tries to wind up another circus for the US to embroil us in. It's like being trapped on a malfunctioning roller-coaster...

    - Submariner October 1, 2009 1:36AM

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