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Video: Atheists "Unbless" Highway with "Unholy Water"

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In Polk County, Florida on Sunday, atheists (from the Humanists of Florida Association) used “unholy water” to wash away a "blessing" placed on a highway by a religious group one year ago (video below).

Humanists of Florida Association (HFA) director Mark Palmer told a group assembled to unbless Highway 98: “We come in peace. Now that’s normally what aliens say when they visit a new planet, but we’re not aliens, we’re atheists!”

Palmer told Bay News 9: “It sends a very bad signal to everyone in Polk County, and (anyone) who travels through Polk county who doesn’t happen to be Christian. This event is not about atheist rights; this is about welcoming everybody into Polk county.”

 Frank Smith Ministries was blessing the Florida highways as part of the Polk Under Prayer (PUP) project.

On their website, they state: “It’s objective is to place Holy Angels at all roads that lead into or out of Polk County. A strip of anointed oil has been placed over all lanes of highway at the county line and a prayer has been given at each location asking God to have angels inspect every vehicle that travels into or out of this county and to bring under conviction to those who seek evil and we asked God to bring them to a state of submission and repentance.”

“If they will not submit to God’s way of living, then the prayer is to have them incarcerated or removed from the county."

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stockball's picture

I think that even most

I think that even most Christians would think that blessing a highway is a little nutty...bet there's nothing in the Bible on that...

Lonecrane's picture

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Kalthian's picture

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"How do you know so much about everything?'" was asked of a very wise and intelligent man; and the answer was "By never being afraid or ashamed to ask questions as to anything of which I was ignorant." - John Abbott (1821-1893)

Kalthian's picture

Ok, it is official: These

Ok, it is official: These "Atheists" are as bad as the fundamentalist christians etc they are claiming to combat. They have "become the shadow they chase". By engaging in this asinine pissing contest *pun totally intended* they have lended credence to the oil blessing thing. They also have indicated that Atheists are "Unholy" which is also just a stupid misnomer. Seriously, between the billboards and this crap they are making everyone hate fundamentalist Atheists as much as they hate fundamentalist Christians etc. They should remember that you have to have "faith" to be an Atheist (Faith that God does not exist). Ugh.

"How do you know so much about everything?'" was asked of a very wise and intelligent man; and the answer was "By never being afraid or ashamed to ask questions as to anything of which I was ignorant." - John Abbott (1821-1893)

CRW's picture

Ummmm.... This is an exercise

Ummmm.... This is an exercise in mockery. I think you get this, but I am not sure. It is like the public demonstration where the atheist yells out, "if god exists, then strike me down with a bolt of lightening." Everyone knows nothing will happen.

Being an atheist is an empirical perspective. No faith is required. The atheist assertion is "there is no evidence god exists. Until reproducible and confirmed evidence is presented, god does not exist." Empirical assertions are based on evidence. Religious "faith" is belief without proof. Christians are playing semantic games trying to equate empirical assertions with religious faith - the two concepts are nowhere near equivalent.

Also, there is no such thing as a "fundamentalist" atheist. All atheists are empirically based unbelievers. "Rejecting" god means you acknowledge god exists, you reject him. The atheist assertion is there is nothing to reject. There are activists who choose to openly oppose and mock religion, and there is the silent majority of atheists who say nothing but who also make the same empirical assertion about the existence of god. The only difference is the level of engagement with believers. The word "fundamentalist" has a religious connotation which does not apply to atheists. In fact, the word "fundamentalism" only applies to theological doctrines and could never apply to atheists. Any use of the words like faith, religious, fundamentalism, when applied to atheism is an oxymoron.

Calling atheism a religion is like calling chemistry a form of alchemy, which relied on magic or belief in magic as opposed to science.

stockball's picture

I think I both agree and

I think I both agree and disagree - "Being an atheist is an empirical perspective. No faith is required. The atheist assertion is "there is no evidence god exists. Until reproducible and confirmed evidence is presented, god does not exist." Empirical assertions are based on evidence" - correct, I don't think empirical evidence can be produced to confirm the existence of a deity...but to say "until reproducible and confirmed evidence is presented, god does not exist" is a leap past logic - more correct might be to say "unless reproducible and confirmed evidence is presented, I will not believe that a deity exists" - to say "until reproducible and confirmed evidence is presented, god does not exist" makes the existence of a deity dependent upon knowledge available to you. For much of history Europeans had no empirical evidence that the Americas or Australia existed; that didn't mean that they didn't exist, just that they didn't have the evidence.

Kalthian's picture

@ CRW - Alright, let me say

@ CRW - Alright, let me say first and foremost: I really REALLY appreciate your kind and intellectual response. I want to establish where I am coming from, I am agnostic, because I haven't seen empirical evidence for or against God's existence, and I choose not to be religious, since religion has so much negativity attached to it.

Ok, so, I understand the "excercise in mockery" thing. My concern is that it will either lend credence to what the religious people are doing with the oil, or worse, provide them with a martyr event. Something they can use to validate this whole "war on religion" thing.

The problem I have with defining Atheism as an empirical assertion, is that there isn't any proof that God doesn't exist, yet. Without proof it would be faith wouldn't it? (And that is a genuine question, no sarcasm. hard to convey in text.) A lack of evidence wouldn't create the conditions necessary to be an empirical observation, otherwise we would say that there isn't anything smaller than (and I'm not a scientist, forgive me) Molecule? Atom? Whatever the current smallest unit is. Because it would be a theory, but it wouldn't disprove a smaller particle, it would just imply that we haven't found one yet? Also, I acknowledge that "Fundamentalist Atheist" is a misnomer, I was just using it because I didn't have a better word there lol. My concern is that, in their zeal, this group and those like them may be hurting the cause more than helping it.

"How do you know so much about everything?'" was asked of a very wise and intelligent man; and the answer was "By never being afraid or ashamed to ask questions as to anything of which I was ignorant." - John Abbott (1821-1893)

CRW's picture

First let me say that I agree

First let me say that I agree that the atheists who go out and mock the religious are being tasteless. However, it is a reaction to being one of the only two groups in america where it is okay for others to hate you (homosexuals being the other).. The mockery does nothing to convert believers, but it will embolden other atheists to be more open.

My problem with the common agnostic argument is that you can't prove god doesn't exist yet because it is not possible to so with god as defined. I can't prove a negative when it comes to the existence of mystical beings or if the scale is too great or too small. For example, I can tell you there are no cats in my home office right now. However, I know there is a cat somewhere in my house. I can prove the negative because the scope is limited and the test is clear - do I see a cat? I can assert there are humans on the earth, and there are no humans on Mercury, but I cannot say much beyond our own solar system because the scale is too great.

What does it mean to prove god does not exist? God is defined as all powerful, omniscient, spiritual, etc. Consequently, the believer can say things like "you are spiritually blind," or "you can't know god unless he chooses to reveal himself to you," etc. I can use the silly example that many atheists use of things like unicorns and leprechauns to make a similar point about disproving god, and most people would assert these things don't exist. However, believers will say unicorns and leprechauns are not god. It is essentially the ontological argument for the existence of god, which I think is one of the weakest out there.

We acknowledge the limits of empirical knowledge constantly because of limits in observation. For example, the heisenberg uncertainty principle says we cannot simultaneously know the position and momentum of quantum particles because to observe them is to disrupt them. Similarly, the wave particular duality of quanta make some types of observations limited to statements of probability only. When we scale up we approach similar limits because of things like the speed of light, the quadratic decay of the intensity of a light source over distance, etc.

HOWEVER, the limits of empirical assertion don't allow for the insertion of magic. There never has been any testable assertion for the existence of the spiritual. In order to assert god exists, we must first be reasonably sure that spiritual things exist. So far, no dice. Can I prove that spiritual things don't exist? No, just like I can't prove unicorns don't exist either.

The only real difference between an agnostic and atheist is how far each allows the impact of uncertainty to go. The atheist says there is no evidence for magical things, and there are limits in what we can assert about the physical world, but these doesn't mean the things on the other sides of the limits are spiritual. The agnostic says nothing in our experience prevents the magical from existing, so the atheist is making too strong of a statement. Here is something that is true: neither the atheist nor the agnostic believe in god. The differences between the two groups are pretty thin.

Lonecrane's picture

@CRW - Good explanation on

@CRW - Good explanation on proof of existence and proof on non-existence.

On the issue of tastelessness, I'll agree that some situations do venture in that realm of the point of being spiteful. However, I feel others are sometimes necessary in a satirical point to draw attention to issues/stances that are taken by religions that are often just given a free pass on because of the deep seeded role that religion has in many areas in the sense that it's 'hands-off' no one can challenge it. I also feel that it is this special treatment that certain religions have gotten that have frustrated some that take an atheistic (or even secularist) stance to a point of frustration where they lose their composure and lash out. Just to note, I'm not blaming the religions for this, just pointing out a social observation.

CRW's picture

I don't disagree. I just

I don't disagree. I just don't feel the need to publicly humiliate or mock believers unless they are in my face, and I mean literally in my face.

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