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American Atheists Announces New "Myth" Billboard Campaign
American Atheists announced today that their new billboard is going up in several locations nationwide, including the New Jersey side of the Lincoln Tunnel: the same location as last year’s famous “You KNOW it’s a MYTH” billboard. The new billboard will also be going up in Ohio and Florida.
This year’s holiday season billboard features pictures of Neptune, Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Devil and says, “37 Million Americans know MYTHS when they see them. What do you see?”
Full Size Dave Silverman, President of American Atheists, said, “Last year’s MYTH billboard was incredibly successful and garnered a lot more attention than we conceived. This year’s billboard should be equally thought-provoking and spark plenty of conversations nationally, but especially in New Jersey, New York, Ohio, and Florida.”
Mr. Silverman continued, “The Florida billboards will also be advertising our upcoming convention in December in Fort Lauderdale. It is going to be an amazing convention with great speakers and this billboard will help promote it to atheists in Florida.”
Blair Scott, Communications Director for American Atheists, stated, “Every year groups like The Catholic League and American Family Association told Americans about a war on Christmas that simply did not exist. Last year we thought we would give them what they seemed to want and fired the first shot in the war on Christmas. To both groups we say, ‘Happy Holidays!’”
Mr. Scott continued, “Offending people is not our goal, but we know people are going to be offended. When you question someone’s long-held beliefs and doctrine they are going to be immediately offended and be on the defensive: it’s a known psychological phenomenon.”
For more details and to see the billboards, please visit atheists.org/atheism/billboards2011.
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Since the bible was written
Since the bible was written by people that thought the earth was the center of the universe, was flat and were willing to torture people to death that didn't agree with their insanity, pretty much the christians should have ZERO say in anything.
Since their book was written by psychopaths and morons it doesn't say much for the followers. What a pity suicide is a sin... :-)
Those that can't or won't defend themselves can only be slaves.
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Wow 21 pages of controversy
Wow 21 pages of controversy on a subject based on personal beliefs. Beliefs are what they are. Some are based on incomplete facts and some are based on incomplete fiction but all are based on the needs of the believer.
The Catholic, Jews, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, agnostic, atheist etc... All have beliefs because they need them to get through the day to day process of living. It doesn't matter what can be proved or not proved because beliefs are power to the individual believer. I am always amazed when people use force to try to convince other people that their beliefs are the best. It is like arguing about who has the best imaginary friend.
Voltaire put it best
“If you can get people to believe absurdities, You can convince them to perform atrocities.”
Shadow boxing with your beliefs is a true absurdity and we clearly don’t need any more atrocities.
So let’s leave the atheist and the Christians and the Muslims and the Buddhist etc. to their beliefs and everyone go back to thinking about really timely and important things like when will I get a job or where is my next meal coming from or how will I keep my family warm this winter. The big stuff!
Airdale
@jodantes.....You've got it
@jodantes.....You've got it wrong, Atheism is not a belief, its a denial of the assertion that a god or gods exits.........This is based on logic, reason and a total lack of evidence to support the assertion.............The only reason someone is called an atheist is because there are so many people who believe in myths, like Christians..........There is no name for people who don't believe in the Easter bunny, etc.
Chuck
Chuck, believing in nothing
Chuck, believing in nothing is the same as believing in something. A lack of belief, or denial as you call it, is still a belief. God cannot be proven and that is why it is called a belief and not science or fact. What I don't understand is why people want to identify with a group of similar believers or non-believers. Why does anyone care if a person is a Christian, Muslim, Jew or someone without theism, visa vie atheist. In a zero sum world why bother arguing for or against what cannot be proven.
Perhaps it is because most religious believers test each other’s beliefs in search of a common Morality. Fortunately Religion and Morality have nothing in common. Religion is man-made "Force" and Morality is universal "Power". A “Force” of any kind requires a “Counter-Force” to exist and we see this in the disagreements and hatred initiated over different religious beliefs. A “Power” stands alone in the universe and requires nothing more than itself to exist.
As Time is constant I suggest that we all just enjoy the moments and embrace the morality because our current reality will end when we least expect it.
Airdale
@jodantec.......You are
@jodantec.......You are wrong............... Beliefs come in two forms, most commonly a belief is just a personal opinion............... A belief can also be presented as a claim, or even a guess, about what is factually true..............................An Atheist denies the theist assertion of the supernatural on the basis of, Lack of empirical evidence, logic and reasoning....................If the Theist presents empirical evidence of the existence of the supernatural an Atheist would immediately become a theist...............However no amount of data would convince a theists that their position is not valid.
Chuck
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
Happy Winter Solstice to All.
Happy Winter Solstice to All.
Chuck
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"the fossil record doesn't
"the fossil record doesn't even back evolution. Atheist and scientist have so much to lose if evolution is false." But evolution isn't false; to base your beliefs on proving science wrong is akin to those who refused to believe the world was not flat.
Excellent point. I am glad
Excellent point. I am glad you have seen through the grand "conspiracy" by 99% of biologists who state evolution is absolutely true. I took biology class in high school and the teacher stated to me, when no one else was listening, "you know Jerome, evolution is fake, we scientists invented it so we can defend having wild origes without a god condemning us." See, you know too much. Indeed, maybe there will be a book written about you by Dan Brown (of the Da Vinci Code). I am sure you are quite an expert on evolution, more so than Stephen Jay Gould was, or Richard Dawkins.
Jerome McCollom
Excellent point. I am glad
Excellent point. I am glad you have seen through the grand "conspiracy" by 99% of biologists who state evolution is absolutely true. I took biology class in high school and the teacher stated to me, when no one else was listening, "you know Jerome, evolution is fake, we scientists invented it so we can defend having wild origes without a god condemning us." See, you know too much. Indeed, maybe there will be a book written about you by Dan Brown (of the Da Vinci Code). I am sure you are quite an expert on evolution, more so than Stephen Jay Gould was, or Richard Dawkins.
Jerome McCollom
Excellent point. I am glad
Excellent point. I am glad you have seen through the grand "conspiracy" by 99% of biologists who state evolution is absolutely true. I took biology class in high school and the teacher stated to me, when no one else was listening, "you know Jerome, evolution is fake, we scientists invented it so we can defend having wild origes without a god condemning us." See, you know too much. Indeed, maybe there will be a book written about you by Dan Brown (of the Da Vinci Code). I am sure you are quite an expert on evolution, more so than Stephen Jay Gould was, or Richard Dawkins.
Jerome McCollom
Wow, it is starling to
Wow, it is starling to realize someone believes the fossil record does not support evolution, but instead better supports creationism or ID. Folks like Percy read some science, then read the BS from the intelligent design institutes, but never read and understood the scientific response to the ID deception.
Scientist state that the
Scientist state that the fossil record does NOT back evolution.
I believe that. Scientist -
I believe that. Scientist - Singular, as in 1
What do you think about the
What do you think about the hindlimbs suspended inside whales, JJ?
As you base your belief on
As you base your belief on proving Christians wrong. No on is proving science wrong, they're backing doggy science. Which is not atheist science.
Christianity mythology is
Christianity mythology is such a ridiculous belief system that there's no reason anyone would need to bother proving it wrong. I mean really with all the unicorns, zombies, man-swallowing fishes, talking snakes, magical trees, talking donkeys, giants, monsters, flying horses, talking bushes, magical sexless pregnancies and all that other supernatural BS, a person would have to be either brainwashed, indoctrinated or a complete idiot to believe in that stuff.
I loathe god, denounce the holy ghost, reject the salvation of jesus, and I encourage others to do the same" - LightBringer ........"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest" - Diderot
What's ironic is comparing
What's ironic is comparing everyone's claims on the bible to the actual text. It is claimed to be the best book ever written, but the messages are usually either wrong, shallow, trite, or incredibly simplistic. Preachers will claim "oh no, you just don't understand it sonny". Then drop something deep. They never do, and the little messages outside their church are some iteration on "No Jesus, No Peace, Know Jesus, Know Peace". The best books with recognized human authors, with no supernatural pretense, are so much better than the bible. The bible is like a lame science fiction novel.
Percy writers: "No on is
Percy writers: "No on is proving science wrong". You would if you could, but you can't.
Percy I've reported your
Percy I've reported your trolling to OV, I wish everyone would....I don't understand why you people still reply to Percy?
Chuck
So it's not enough to reject
So it's not enough to reject Christianity, I must study and reject every sect of Christianity?
Yes, and scientologists will
Yes, and scientologists will claim you are close minded if you don't hold their e-meter and take a stress test.
To continue this conversation
To continue this conversation in any meaningful way, it is necessary for others to be familiar with the material that is the basis of my original post. As I am the the only one to have printed out and studied this teaching and have now decided to test the efficacy of the claim, to have a conversation with anyone not so informed makes jest of any rational discussion or investigation. I am more than happy to continue on that basis.
Or to quote Mark Twain:" the man who will not read is no better off than one who can not read." http://www.energon.org.uk
Theology only exists because nothing has been revealed!
"Faith is something you have
"Faith is something you have when you know it ain't true". Mark Twain.
Chuck
No, seriously, you've told us
No, seriously, you've told us all we need to know that any conversation with you is going to be without meaning. "Evidence is available by an act of faith" is a self-contradictory statement. You claim that "it is itself a testable proof of God for faith," but then you again contradict yourself by invoking perceptions and emotions. Emotions and subjective perceptions are not a path to truth. Faith has no capacity to distinguish truth from delusion. If that's the basis for your religion, I don't need to read some screed that, if its hosting website is any indication, will probably be totally incoherent. To say nothing of the fact that you keep spamming the URL to that godawful website--it tells me you're not interested in discussion, but only proselytizing one more flavor of religion, indistinguishable from all the rest. You're SO done.
It most certainly is not
It most certainly is not necessary to deeply study foolishness to see that it is foolishness, when a quick glance tells me all I need to know. As an atheist, I do not need to study every religion, sect, and cult when I have already rejected the premise that a God or gods exist. I would have no time for other pursuits.
Good gods, one can look at
Good gods, one can look at evolution and say the same thing, It's foolishness.
There is overwhelming
There is overwhelming evidence for evolution.
Percy...The evidence for
Percy...The evidence for evolution is impressive...Here's some contradictions in the bible....... Contradictions in the Bible
Did everyone die in the flood?
How many men did the chief of David's captains kill? Was Abraham justified by faith or by works? How many sons did Abraham have? Was Abiathar the father or the son of Ahimelech? Who was Abijam's mother? How were Abijam and Asa related? How long was the ark of the covenant at Abinadab's house? How old was Abram when Ishmael was born? How many sons did Absalom have? When did Absalom rebel against David? The two contradictory creation accounts. Who was Achan's father? How many of Adin's offspring returned from Babylon? How many of Adonikam's offspring returned from Babylon? How should adultery be punished? Is it wrong to commit adultery? Was Haman an Agagite? Was Ahaz buried with his fathers? When did Ahaziah begin to reign? How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign? Did the city of Ai exist after Joshua destroyed it? What tribe was Aijalon from? Does God want some to go to hell? Did Jesus tell his disciples everything? Was David alone when asking for the holy bread at Nob? Did Saul and Samuel kill all the Amalekites? Who was Amasa's father? How should the Ammonites be treated? Who was Anah? Who drove the Anakim from Hebron? How long does God's anger last? From what were the animals created? What were the names of the apostles? Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples after the resurrection? How many of Arah's offspring returned from Babylon? What was in the ark of the covenant? Was Asa perfect? Did Asa remove the high places? How many of Asaph's offspring returned from Babylon? When did Jesus ascend into heaven? Did Peter ask Jesus where he was going? On what did Jesus ride into Jerusalem? Is the day of the Lord at hand? How many of Azgad's offspring returned from Babylon? When did Baasha die? How many languages were there before the Tower of Babel was built? How many of Bani's offspring returned from Babylon? In whose name is baptism to be performed? Did Jesus baptize anyone? Did Jesus tell his apostles to go barefoot and without a staff? Who was to blame for original sin? Who was Bashemath's father? What was the volume of the molten sea in Solomon's temple? How many of Bebai's offspring returned from Babylon? When did Saul become David's enemy? Who named Beersheba? Where did Joseph and Mary live before the birth of Jesus? Should we believe everything? How many believers were there at the time of the ascension? How old was Benjamin when his clan migrated to Egypt? Who were the sons of Benjamin? Were Naaman and Ard the sons or the grandsons of Benjamin? Who asked Jesus for the best seats in heaven? When did Jacob rename Luz to Bethel? How many of Bethlehem and Netophah's offspring returned from Babylon? Where did Jesus cure the blind man? How many of Bezai's offspring returned from Babylon? How many of Bigvai's offspring returned from Babylon? Who makes people deaf and blind? How many blind men were healed near Jericho? Does the blood of animal sacrifices take away sin? Should every man bear his own burden? Who buried Jesus? On what day did the temple burn? Did God command the Israelites to make him burnt offerings? Who appeared to Moses in the burning bush? What became of Cain? Was Jesus taken to Caiaphas or Annas first? Will those who call on the Lord be delivered? Can God do anything? How long was the Egyptian Captivity? Is casting out devils a sign of a true Christian? Did God kill all the Egyptian cattle in the sixth plague? Is it OK to have a census? Did the Centurion ask Jesus directly to help his servant? What did the Centurion call Jesus when he died? How high was the chapiter? How many men did David kill? Is childbearing sinful? Is it a a good thing to be childish? How did Jesus respond when questioned by the high priest? Is circumcision required? To whom were the cities of Exhtaol and Zoreah given? Did the cock crow before or after Peter's denial? What color was Jesus' robe? Did Jesus forewarn the apostles of his death and resurrection? Is God the author of confusion? Is it OK to covet? Did Jesus say before the cock crow or before the cock crow twice? Did Jesus ask God to save him from crucifixion? Is it OK to curse people? Will God curse the earth? Are those who obey the law cursed? When did the Temple curtain rip? Who carried Jesus' cross? When was the city of Dan named? Generations from David to the Babylonian Captivity How did David kill Goliath? The sons of David born in Hebron Did David sin? Which sons of David born in Jerusalem? From which of David's sons was Jesus descended? When did the women (or woman) arrive at the sepulchre? Did Adam die on the day he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Is death final? How many of Delaiah, Tobiah, and Nekoda's offspring returned from Babylon? To whom did Peter deny knowing Jesus? Who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? Can the devil capture us at will? Is the devil free to roam? Who can cast out devils in the name of Jesus? Where did the devils ask not to go? Does God desire animal sacrifices? Must everyone die? Should believers discuss their faith with non-believers? Is divorce ever permissible? Does anyone do anything good? Who put the robe on Jesus? Did Jesus drink on the cross? When did the earth dry after the flood? Does God dwell in darkness or in light? Will the earth last forever? What kind of animals may we eat? How should the Edomites be treated? Did Lot's daughters think God had killed every man? Did Luke include everything that Jesus did? Did Jesus, Mary, and Joseph go to Egypt or Nazareth? How many disciples did Jesus appear to in his first post resurrection appearance? Did the eleven disciples believe the two men? Who did Elhanan kill? Was John the Baptist Elijah? When will the end of the world come? How should we treat our enemies? Has anyone ever ascended into heaven? Did Enoch die? Was Enoch the sixth or the seventh from Adam? Will Ephraim return to Egypt? When was Eve created? Is everyone descended from Adam and Eve? Is God the creator of evil?
Chuck
Chuck, you know OV turns long
Chuck, you know OV turns long screeds like this into unreadable walls of text. You're not having a discussion, you're just browbeating. Knock it off.
Has anyone else contacted OV
Has anyone else contacted OV to tell them that nothing about their commenting structure makes sense? Let me see: can't format comments at all, indentation structure does not make sense and randomly changes, order of comments will randomly shuffle, half the time you need to search through all comment pages to find a new comment you are alerted to, am I missing anything? Place is cool, or I would be out. What's maddening is that these things must be easy as other smaller sites get it right repeatedly. Sorry, had to vent.
You are unwilling to even
You are unwilling to even provide a thumbnail sketch for us. Most people will not humor you by spending their time to research something offsite so that they can discuss it with you here.
I would suggest you have
I would suggest you have misunderstood. If the Resurrection of Jesus had or has meaning, it was to demonstrate that not only is there a God but one who is prepared to intervene directly into the natural world to accomplish his will and confirm absolutely the reality of his existence. In the case of this new teaching, his 'will' is to create a new moral reality within the human condition that can only exists by the expression of divine omnipotence. The experience of this expression is our Resurrection, the goal, proof and justification of faith.
Theology only exists because nothing has been revealed!
"If the Resurrection of Jesus
"If the Resurrection of Jesus had or has meaning..."
That's all I need to read to make up my mind about what you're pushing here.
Ah, but your mind was made up
Ah, but your mind was made up before you read his post, good sir.
How many times should I
How many times should I reexamine something that I have already rejected without any new evidence?
Matthew
Matthew 5:17..............Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament.......................................... Matthew 7:13-14 .............Jesus says that most people will go to hell.................
Matthew 8:21.............. Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." ................................................ Matthew 10:21..............................Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." ............................................... MARK 4:11-12 ...........................Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell.
Chuck
It seems god doesn't like
It seems god doesn't like people who demand good evidence before forming a belief.
Quite the contrary. You are
Quite the contrary. You are absolutely right to demand and expect evidence for any truth claim and true religion can only begin when that direct, testable evidence is available. And now it is, by an act of faith, for anyone who wants it! The only difference being that the search for this evidence based proof is not of human intellectual origin and so demands an act of faith to confirm and secure it. Easier done then said! http://www.energon.org.uk
Theology only exists because nothing has been revealed!
Please be more clear. Are
Please be more clear. Are you basically saying "try it out and see what happens in your perceptions or emotions?" I assume that is the type of testability you are suggesting. How I feel once I've tried convince myself something is true is not evidence. Evidence not understandable by the human mind is not evidence at all. If I am wrong, please describe a simple, repeatable experiment that experiment that supports your claims.
More clear. A new
More clear. A new interpretation of the gospel or moral teaching of Christ now exists. It is of itself a testable proof of God for faith, the first in known history. While perceptions and emotions are certainly involved, there in much more direct evidence to be discovered in a literal intervention: "correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries."
I'm testing it now myself. There is not the space to offer a full explanation here, but at the link provided, if your sufficiently interested, you can download the teaching and study it for yourself. And it does require careful study. It's a free pdf file. If you get that far, come back to me and we can compare notes chapter by chapter. One of the download sites is: http://www.energon.org.uk
Theology only exists because nothing has been revealed!
The involvement of of
The involvement of of perceptions and emotions necessarily are untestable evidences. You're DONE.
I see nothing more direct and
I see nothing more direct and testable than one more crackpot website so that the padded room next to the Timecube guy has someone to keep him company. If I have to read through that eye-scalding website, then download and *print* a PDF on the promise (not much credibility I'm here to tell ya) that it will eventually make sense, I'm going to conclude it's more likely there's mental illness here rather than universal truth. But by all means, summarize your position, tell me what the evidence is, and if it holds water maybe I'll think about going through the rigmarole.
1. You can't prove the
1. You can't prove the resurrection. Your evidence is not extraordinary enough to justify belief in this extraordinary claim. Many people/deities have been claimed to rise from the dead throughout history, why do you only believe in one? 2. Even if people thought Jesus was dead, he was taken down from the cross, and then appeared to be re-animated; how does that prove that there is a god and all the other things you claim?
http://www.godisimaginary.com
http://www.godisimaginary.com
Atheists have a strong
Atheists have a strong intellectual position and they're going to exploit it. Two thousand years of religious claims and humanity has no greater insight in the question of God then it ever had. If all knowledge claims worked the same way, our species would still be back in the stone age, and there's the rub. Two competing conceptions of knowledge but only one that is able to demonstrate the efficacy of their insights. Yet these two apparently opposing camps my be no more than two sides of the same coin of profound unknowing. Both dishonest within their own corners of intellectual fashion, one fills it with theological doublethink while the other has been foolish enough to draw and defend its conclusions that there is no God.
It may very well come to pass, that all sides of the God question and history itself have it wrong! The first wholly new interpretation for two thousand years of the moral teachings of Christ is published on the web. Radically different from anything else we know of from history, this new teaching is predicated upon a precise and predefined experience, a direct individual intervention into the natural world by omnipotent power to confirm divine will, command and covenant, "correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries." So like it of no, a new religious claim testable by faith, meeting all Enlightenment criteria of evidence and causation now exists. Nothing short of a religious revolution appears to be getting under way. Both religious and atheist feathers should be flying soon! More at http://www.energon.org.uk
Theology only exists because nothing has been revealed!
Open up the back of your
Open up the back of your computer, scientific advancements produce products that work because it allows you to predict what will occur in observable reality. Science and religion are hardly on equal footing or two sides of the same coin.