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Mike Huckabee Compares Abortion to Holocaust (Video)
During his keynote speech at the Republican Party of Iowa’s Celebrate Life event on Saturday, Fox News host Mike Huckabee compared abortion in the United States to the Nazi Holocaust (video below).
According to the TheIowaRepublican.com, Huckabee recalled that Oskar Schindler, a German businessman, saved about 1,200 Jews from the Holocaust by employing them in his factories.
Huckabee argued the U.S. could use people like Schindler who were willing to “intervene on behalf of human life,” but didn't say exactly how that would work with an unborn baby.
“And now we are called into this incredible Holocaust of our own in America. Fifty-five million babies. Fifty-five million babies since 1973 have died in what ought to be the safest place in the world, their mother’s womb," said Huckabee.
"It has become one of the most dangerous places for a baby to be. For us, this is not about the politics of Democrat or Republican, winning or losing, it is about our capacity to one day stand before a holy God and give an account for whether we stood between life and death for those who had no voice but ours.”
Source: TheIowaRepublican.com
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WHY ARE REPUBLICANS
WHY ARE REPUBLICANS CONSTANTLY IN OUR BEDROOMS?????????
REPUBLICANS NEED TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS! IT'S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS WHAT'S GOING ON IN PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS!!!!!!!!!! ISN'T THAT THE REPUBLICAN MANTRA: Personal liberties. Personal freedoms. Government staying out of lives??????????
Republicans are two-faced fucking hypocrites.
Well said, USMCvet. I'm proud
Well said, USMCvet. I'm proud to read that over 70% of US voters want to keep laws out of a woman's uterus. The US government has never interfered with men's genitalia or what he does with his sperm. In 1973 the Supreme Court said American woman have this same equal right to their own bodies. This is as much a part of the US Bill of Rights now as the right to bear arms. As long as our Constitution exists, these rights will endure. I feel sorry for the millions who still live in religious tyranny under medieval governments, but I am proud my nation was based on individual freedom(even if recognizing the rights of each individual is still a constant work- in-progress).
@ gem "recognizing the rights
@ gem
"recognizing the rights of each individual is still a constant work-in-progress"
With the exception of one who is one of pair of a Siamese twins, a foetus is an "individual".
"The US government has never interfered with men's genitalia or what he does with his sperm."
So what was Lawrence v Texas about?
@Gem the GOP is dying out for
@Gem the GOP is dying out for many reasons but those hypocritical morons and their phony hollier than thou moral positions are laughable!! these republican types remind me of the old nosey neighbor!! peeking out they're window always on the prowl looking to make a hasty moral judgement not having a FU*KING clue to whats really going on! The republican party is a cancer on this country and it needs to be removed!!!
@knight4444, the power the
@knight4444, the power the RNC & DNC now have over our political process makes it difficult to ever create another strong competitive Party (which is why the Teabaggers took control of the GOP), which I think is bad for the USA. But it would be worse to have a single Party dominating every election for very long. I believe in fiscal responsibilities and smaller federal government, as many Independents do, but I do not believe there is any place in my country for legalized discrimination. I believe we need elected representatives to advocate for currently unpopular policies which reflect our Constitutional integrity, like medical privacy , Gay Marriage, etc... There are moderate & conservative Democrats, and as a Party, they have more independence than the RNC allows its members, but I would still like to see the Republican Party reform itself. I believe they will eventually. I have followed & researched US politics my entire life. I don't think the RNC can reform itself in this decade, but it must begin now. Until the RNC diversifies enough to represent the USA as it is, as it is evolving, they won't be much of a force in federal politics (State politics is a different matter). Both major Party's have their radical fringe groups & always have. Both Party's have kept this nation centralized and both have contributed good (and bad) policies. The goal is to keep American voters motivated to protect their own interests. Our system of safeguards, divisions of power, checks & balances is dependent upon The People to do their part in maintaining this democracy. It's easy to become frustrated, exhausted, even bored by the tedious details of government but most Americans love our Constitution. We believe in it. I think this belief can transcend Party partisanship, no matter how diverse Americans become from one another. What has made this melting pot a nation is the ideas & ideals upon which we were founded. Assimilation has never been easy but millions come here every year to become a part of this great experiment in democracy, so we must be doing something's right. There is nothing wrong with respecting our past & traditions, but a nation, like a person, must accept the world as it is, not as it was, to survive in it. The 1980's conservative movement has passed. We need not dwell on how we allowed ourselves to be stunted by it. It is time for the USA to put bitterness aside & catch up to the 21st century. We may even again one day lead the world in revolutionary new ideas.
@Gem you are so spot on!!
@Gem you are so spot on!! that post was masterful! I've been saying those same comments since 2004!!! I studied politics since 1976 and what blows my mind is the complete and utter ignorance of todays republicans! A- the republican party isn't a conservative party!!!! William F. Buckley was a conservative!! Dwight Eisenhowser was a conservative!!! The republican party is a pawn of big business! it's NOT conservative because conservatism ''fiscal conservatism'' doesn't start TWO WARS with NO plan to pay for them!!! @Gem conservatism, like Joe Scarobough said ''is a CON game for people to make money'' hey republicans that's what your own conservative Joe Scarobough SAID!!! and he's right!! The republican party is joke!! a twisted FU*KED up shell of what it use to be!! And todays typical republican is too ignorant to know how radically it's changed!!!! Ronald Reagan they're earthly jesus christ!! if he were alive today and ran for political office would be stoned to DEATH by the teaparty for being TOO LIBERAL!!! BTW my republican friends Ronald Reagan was a NEO CON!!!! yes!! I've actually listened to audio of him as a democrat giving pro UNION speeches!!!! try actually researching information for your damn selves instead of parking your AS*ES in front of FUX news!!!
@ knight4444 "the GOP is
@ knight4444
"the GOP is dying out ... The republican party is a cancer on this country and it needs to be removed!"
Your pipedream, a one-party state in America, seems to me to be as distant a hope as ever.
Electorally, the GOP still seems to be doing just about well as ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress
The Democratic Party seems unlikely to organise a coup d'etat and then to declare the opposition a proscribed organisation. (Nor does the Republican Party, for that matter.)
Most of those who talk in terms of wishing to mount a popular revolution to seize power in the name of "the people", seem to have the attitude, "a plague on both of your houses", remembering the Bush-Kerry presidential contest, when both likely-to-win candidates were bonesmen, and all the faith in the "shadow government" conspiracy theory that that piece of theatre gave credibility to.
Although in the past, revolutions have been a left-wing thing, in the land of the twee and the home of the crazed, the majority of revolutionaries whom I get to hear spouting insurrection nowadays, are well to the *right* of the GOP, or Attila the Hun and the Emperor Nero, for that matter.
Are you reading unreliable news sources?
@Johnny you talk a LOT! and
@Johnny you talk a LOT! and your assumptions about people on this site are unbelievably hilarious! first off @Johnny!! I'm not a democrat! so you're 0 for 1! I don't want a one party system! so you're 0 for 2 and as far as the GOP being ''stronger than ever??'' LMAO. I believe you live abroad right? I think you'd be better served worrying about your OWN countries politics! because @Johnny you don't know JACK about american politics!! Proof? when a party loses two consecutive presidential elections by over 13 MILLION votes thats a sign @Johnny!! when republicans decided to splinter off and join Dick Armey's trumped up "TEAPARTY" that's a sign @Johnny! Listen gov I know in your mind you believe you have ALL the worlds answers and us mere mortals should be grateful that you enlighten the masses with your boundless wisdom on this website but @Johnny spare us! you're not that brilliant old chap!! so instead of talking baseball you should stick to talking about cricket! BTW professor try do some homework on a subject entitled ''WHIG PARTY" you know them right?? Abraham Lincoln was a member of the political party too
@ knight4444 Whatever you
@ knight4444
Whatever you say, all the same, they won an awful lot of seats in both houses of Congress.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress
Sorry I mistook you were a Democrat supporter, and had a little fun with what you'd written. Is there any political party you DO like? No? Me neither, in my own country.
Ok now we're being sensible,
Ok now we're being sensible, I'm an Independent both parties here democrats & republicans are corrupt and owned by big business. The republican party has been the lap dog of big business since the mid 1800's with the railroads the democrats were our pro slave trade party and didn't embrace civil rights till JFK and LBJ in the early 1960's. Listen @john your country isn't much better! Tony Blair marched right along with the RED- WHITE- and BLUE during the invasion of Iraq knowing the USA produced phony intelligence!! Well at least your country gave Blair the boot!! we allowed the Bush administration to just skate by!! The USA really isn't ready to lead!! we're a deeply divided country that refuses to join the 21 century!! if you ever want an education on world politics I'll be happy to school you sir lol just having some fun @john
@ knight4444 "if you ever
@ knight4444
"if you ever want an education on world politics I'll be happy to school you sir"
Yeah, you, the world, and his dog. People seem to spend more time on the internet trying to teach than to learn. I'm one of the worst culprits, and you aren't much better.
#JOHNNY @JOHNNY @JOHNNY
#JOHNNY @JOHNNY @JOHNNY you're amazing! do you go to amateur night at comedy clubs and entertain the drunks in the audience??? @JOHNNY you're a loud mouth but you're a cool loud mouth lol God bless you sir.
@ USMvet "WHY ARE REPUBLICANS
@ USMvet
"WHY ARE REPUBLICANS CONSTANTLY IN OUR BEDROOMS?????????"
There is nothing about "bedrooms" in this story.
Since the article is about
Since the article is about abortions and most normal babies are conceived in the bedroom, unless its a republican and they usually rape their victims in the cellar or basement.
Those that can't or won't defend themselves can only be slaves.
That's a somewhat contrived
That's a somewhat contrived connection, isn't it?
Does not matter which side of
Does not matter which side of the isle you are in. There is no reason whatsoever to shed innocent blood.
Huh? Not even a rape? Since
Huh? Not even a rape? Since when do you get to purposely saddle a young woman, who had not planned on childcare, etc over getting her education???????????
I have a dream, of a future
I have a dream, of a future time when we will give just enough sex education to boys and girls, whilst they are young, and maybe leave all the LGBTQ, complicated, advanced sex studies till a later year in the school syllabus.
I have a dream that one day we will teach them that having sexual intercourse causes babies, obliging the parents to be kind to the babies, not to get rid of them. And that they should stick together through thick and thin, because babies thrive on living with mummies and daddies who resolve to co-operate with one another, and set an example of grown-up love to their babies.
Would this romantic dream's fulfilment slightly annoy even as many as FIFTY FIVE MILLION of the next generation so much, that killing that many of the next few generations, like we have been doing, would be preferable to having that many youngsters annoyed with us, for changing our tune, and telling them the facts of life again?
Let's end sizism, the lethal discrimination that presently is perpetrated against humans on the basis of their size. The amount of blood we have been shedding has been less than the body count suggests, because the victims only have small bodies, with less lifeblood to spill per fatality. But it's still a lot of victims whose innocent blood we have been shedding. It's time we did something to stop this. It should be obvious that it's not right, what we;ve been doing all these years.
Agreed?
I have a dream of
I have a dream of scientifically accurate sex ed for all of our children. Abortion is the decision of the woman, and no one else. It is desirable that abortion be safe, legal, and seldom needed. That requires scientifically accurate sex ed with full contraception training.
Did the woman get pregnant on
Did the woman get pregnant on her own or did she had the help of a man?The decision to abort the child should not rest solely on the woman.
RJ, as soon as a physician
RJ, as soon as a physician can transfer the fetus into the sperm donor to gestate, men will have the option to have this done. For now Americans only have the right to OUR OWN bodies, not the bodies of others. You should be grateful that the US government recognizes reproductive freedom. Would you want to live in country that could sterilize each citizen who has had their government quota of offspring?. Relinquishing individual rights to your own body to government authority would mean your body, alive & dead, is the property of the State to be administered for the common good of the State. The State medical authority would have the right to take any citizen's kidney, bone marrow, blood, etc... as needed without asking your consent. You may not like what others do with their freedom but you cannot eliminate their rights with losing your own.
There is a reason why GOD
There is a reason why GOD said , and I dont know the exact quote , " the man and woman shall leave their mother and father and the two shall become one ( marriage ). Spiritually speaking one body, husband and wife. What mess we get into when we decide to keep GOD out of our business and make our own rules and laws. I know GOD saw this coming. Dont you think we ought to go back to HIS laws instead of men's law?
I'm curious, RJ. I
I'm curious, RJ. I understand that you believe in GOD. Do you understand that your belief is not accepted by everyone and that it is unreasonable to expect they will?
We keep GOD out of our laws because the First Amendment provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
@ Savannah Refraining from
@ Savannah
Refraining from establishing religion, isn't exactly the same as "keeping God out our laws." It certainly doesn't require keeping God out of the *process* of law-making, for example withholding one's vote from a pious candidate, or being a pious and prayerful senator or congressman oneself. (Not that I think many of those self-important millionaires ARE genuinely as pious or prayerful as some pretend to be, mind you.)
The idea of God as a mere thought experiment shouldn't be as offensive as some here seem to find it. In practise, people with serious doubts as to whether God exists, nevertheless embody in their superegos (if you'll pardon the Freudian expression) the abstract notion that a mythical or hypothetical supreme and supremely ethical being is watching their lives, and will judge their deeds one day, after their lives are over. There have been people whom it has not been too far-fetched to describe as having all the appearance of being well-behaved, God-fearing atheists!
One often hears people taking offence at the bland assertion that atheists have no *rational* motivation to behave nobly, when there is no chance of getting caught. But how else to resist temptations when "nobody will ever know", other than the gut-feeling, which, for many, one's ego rejects as irrational, that perhaps there is Somebody who *will* know instantly, and remember forever, to one's eternal embarrassment? People react badly to this simple truth, misinterpreting the writer as saying that ALL atheists DO behave badly, ALL the time. "I'm an atheist, and I'm still faithful to my wife, and never steal, or murder people! How dare you say otherwise?" But that's not what folks are saying. Rather, they're saying, "Well done ... but you still have no idea WHY you are living so morally, do you?"
The Psalms therefore speak, more than once, about the "fool", who has said "in his heart" that there is no God. Some people whose lips express belief in God live lives that testify to His absence from their "hearts", whilst others might articulate disbelief in, or scepticism of, the whole idea of God, whilst living as though He was at the core of their motivations.
This said, avoid the fallacy of the flawed ontological "proof" of God's existence, that a real ethical supreme being is superior to one who is otherwise identical, but merely hypothetical - a thought experiment as I put it earlier; and that therefore the genuine supreme being must be the one of the two who is real. The fallacy mis-classifies existence as an attribute.
"Refraining from establishing
"Refraining from establishing religion, isn't exactly the same as 'keeping God out our laws.' It certainly doesn't require keeping God out of the *process* of law-making, for example withholding one's vote from a pious candidate, or being a pious and prayerful senator or congressman oneself. (Not that I think many of those self-important millionaires ARE genuinely as pious or prayerful as some pretend to be, mind you.)"
An individual voting for a candidate based on religious ideation is exercising his/her prerogative, the same as is someone who votes for candidate because they have a nice tan, look good in a suit, or whatever.
Some values are held by the majority, regardless of religion or in spite of religion, not necessarily because of it. For example, the vast majority of people believe it is not acceptable to steal. I feel that way, but I do not base it on any religious principle.
"There have been people whom it has not been too far-fetched to describe as having all the appearance of being well-behaved, God-fearing atheists!"
I do what I consider right for many reasons, none of which have anything to do with fearing God. I am not a child who must fear punishment in order to adhere to the principles around which I live my life.
As an example, I do not steal because I have the ability to empathize, because I have the ability to obtain what I need, and because I am not greedy and want more than what I can buy myself. I do not steal because I know for our society to function and everyone to have a chance at a decent life, we cannot behave as if others do not matter.
"But how else to resist temptations when 'nobody will ever know'".
*I* know. If I do not measure up to the expectations I established for myself, then *I* will know.
This country was founded
This country was founded under Judean Christian laws. Slowly men ( and women) have been twisting this laws to the point where we are almost at a point in life where we dont see any wrong or right. Everybody does what seems right in their own eyes.
@RJ, you know our
@RJ, you know our Constitution was NOT founded under Judeo-Christian laws. Of the Ten Commandments of Judeo-Christian law only 2 are US laws (3 if you include perjury. It is not a crime to lie outside a court of law). The Constitution, as it was written, only mentions religion once. In Article VI, paragraph 3, the Constituion states that state and federal office holders "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, Creator, Divine, and God" are never mentioned in the US Constitution AT ALL . Each of the 13 States individually ratified The Bill of Rights, which included freedom of religion in the First Amendment ( "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" ). 18 of our Presidents have been non-Christians, including Washington, John Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and John Quincy Adams ( Eisenhower was never baptized or attended any church until after he was elected President).
Prior to the 20th century voters were not that concerned if a candidate for office attended church, because many Americans were not regular church-goers themselves, yet they still considered themselves to be honest, law-abiding American patriots. In a time when most countries on this Earth were still claiming that kings ruled nations by the authority of God, I am proud that our Forefathers recognized that the power of the government is derived from the governed. In other words, citizens create governments, NOT God. The People (of all races , religions & creeds) of this country created the laws of the United States, and every American should be proud of this fact.
Amendments to the
Amendments to the Constitution are laws of the land. All 50 states have a direct reference to GOD , Divine Providence , or Almighty GOD. Too many to write.Is that MOSES carring the TEN COMMANDMENTS engraved in the U.S. Supreme Court? The Closing of the Constitution reference LORD.The Preamble to the Constitution "Blessing of Liberty " implies a Blesser. Who do you think that Blesser is ? Today Congress still opens every session with a prayer.The proofs of refrencing a Divine Creator in our Constitution are enormous."citizens create governments NOT God " Who created the citizens? 52 of the 55 Founding Fathers were members of the Orthodox Churches in the Colonies. Take a tour of the U.S. capital and you will find engraved images refrencing GOD in one way or another.
RJ, Which of the Judeo
RJ,
Which of the Judeo Christian principles do you like best?
"If thy right eye offends thee, pluck it out?"
"Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."
I'm thinking that's going to get a lot of people, don't you?
"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
Ruh roh.....
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers"
Ouch.
Some of the founders of this country were Christians, yes. It may even be fair to say most were. That said, they saw the wisdom that our laws be structured so that religion was private and that all people had a choice to observe a particular religion or not. Thus the First Amendment.
During the framing of the
During the framing of the Constitution the days were started with prayers. Even in our times a Bible is used during the Inauguration of the President and the last words from our President are " So help me GOD ". So much for religion structured for being private. My favorite Judean Christian principal? Hardest question I've ever been asked. Lol. There are so many and they are all beautiful ,but " Bless those who curse you and do good to those who hate you , pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you ". That next to " Love your neighbor". Who's my neighbor ? The person next to me , where ever I may be.
@ gem "You should be grateful
@ gem
"You should be grateful that the US government recognizes reproductive freedom. Would you want to live in country that could sterilize each citizen who has had their government quota of offspring?. Relinquishing individual rights to your own body to government authority would mean your body, alive & dead, is the property of the State to be administered for the common good of the State."
Have you never heard of "proportionality", or rights that are "qualified" rather than "absolute"?
My nightmare @ Rj "Did the
My nightmare
@ Rj
"Did the woman get pregnant on her own or did she had the help of a man? The decision to abort the child should not rest solely on the woman."
Good point. But the kind of point that gets you hate mail, the most foul-mouthed of it from "White Knight" creeps that are traitors to their gender, even though spouting "Woman's right to choose" like parrots is never going to get them laid.
We started a planned pregnancy together, that both parents wanted, our second child together. Then, out of the blue, the mother developed a completely weird mental state in which she suddenly started wanting an abortion. She would never had dreamt of having an abortion before. I was still on cloud nine over having become a father yet again. The news of how she had started thinking, my powerlessness that I discovered when somebody was threatening my own son or daughter's very life, and the anticipated grief at the prospective death of a child of mine, murdered by a woman who had been then love of my life, brought me down to earth with a mighty bump.
I am a grown man, who took divorce, bereavement of a father, a mother, and a former wife in his stride. But this experience reduced me to floods of tears, day after day, like nothing else through which I have ever lived - and if you Google me, you'll discover that I've been through a LOT.
She came back to her senses partly, and went to her next hospital appointment, with any abortion plans on hold, at very least. The scan showed that the baby had already died in the womb, at still only a few weeks gestation, several days or even weeks before the onset of the weird mental state of my partner. His or her dead body was obviously decaying, sending chemical signals through his or her umbilical chord and placenta, to her body, and thence to her brain, that caused the almost irresistible impulse she felt to empty her womb, which appears to be what caused the abortion thoughts.
I hardly felt a twinge of sadness at that news the baby had died naturally. Shit happens. Move on.
But, for a short time, I experienced the worst feeling of having being betrayed that I can ever imagine feeling. With the law as it is in many jurisdictions, men in the position I thought I was in for a painful fortnight or so, are completely powerless. And absolutely nobody cares a fig about us, when we find ourselves in this so-distressing situation for real.
I'm a male and if you truly
I'm a male and if you truly believe that having a baby isn't 100% a woman's choice you're incredibly mistaken!!! @Johnny when are guys like you going to get it through your thick neanderthal skull!! you will never get pregnant! you'll never carry a fetus, baby PERIOD!! man get a clue alright! you do realize this is 2013 not 1813
@ knight4444 "your thick
@ knight4444
"your thick neanderthal skull ... this is 2013 not 1813"
Ad hominem and chronological snobbery don't cut any ice with me.
My thoughts and prayers go
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and other men who find themselves in distressing situations such as yours, in the past and in the future. Also to the countless women who were pressured to decide to go through an abortion because of selfish reasons from either the parents or the would be father.
@ Kanawah "Abortion is the
@ Kanawah
"Abortion is the decision of the woman, and no one else."
You mean the mother? Why shouldn't society protect the foetus' right to life?
Let's be frank. If Pro-Life
Let's be frank. If Pro-Life folks really care about eliminating abortions in the US, then some changes are going to have to be made.
1. The GOP must stop attempting to block women's access to birth control via the Affordable Health Care Act. In addition to providing birth control at no cost to those who have private insurance, birth control needs to be provided free to all women of childbearing age - without judgment, without payment, and without requiring parental consent of any kind.
2. We must provide age-appropriate, honest, effective, accurate education to all middle school and high school students regarding contraceptives, STDS, and emotional aspects of sexual relationships.
3. The GOP must stop attempting to block the Affordable Health Care act which requires insurance carriers to offer sterilization procedures for women without additional charge. The Act should be amended to include the same coverage for men. Free sterilization options should be offered to any adult who cannot afford to pay for it themselves.
4. The adoption process must be revised to make it easier for women to opt to give up their babies to adoptive parents. Any expenses the woman incurs as a result of her pregnancy should be covered at no cost if she cannot afford it. The adoption process should be revised so that people of modest income could adopt. If necessary, their income should be supplemented to provide for care of the child. Any and all adoption fees should be covered for those who cannot afford them.
Now, let's anticipate the reaction should this plan receive serious consideration.
Education for children will be protested by many parents? Yes, it will. Lack of education about sexual activity will not stop people (teenagers and older) from having sex, yet people blindly claim they do not want their children educated by the schools or birth control offered because it will put the idea in their heads to have sex. Many do not provide the education at home either and would rather die than place their princess on birth control or explain the proper use of condoms to their sons. Never mind that all these people who object to education and prevention were at one point teenagers themselves and didn't require any nudging to think about sex.
This will cost a fortune, you say? Yes it will, so the question is - what price would pro-life persons be willing to pay to eliminate (well, greatly reduce the numbers of) abortions?
Absolutely changes need to be
Absolutely changes need to be made and it has to start with the person in the mirror. Everything we do has consequences , whether good or bad. Getting pregnant and then abort the baby is like a criminal getting a Get out jail free card. Can't be getting pregnant then abort the baby on demand. And on the AHCA , thats money from the tax payers. I don't think I want to pay for somebody else's good times. If you're old enough to take someone to your bedroom , you're old enough to pay for you're own contraceptives. They are really not that expensive.
The things required by the
The things required by the AHCA are not necessarily paid from taxpayer money, much of it is paid from insurance premiums. You said, "I don't think I want to pay for someone else's good times". If that argument is valid then why should I, who have no children, pay into an insurance pool where people have multiple children? A family plan is the same price no matter how many children, correct? I don't have a problem for helping to pay for my neighbor's five children to have healthcare. Or to pay taxes for their schools even though I have never sent a single child to school. Or pay for someone's liver transplant because they drank themselves into needing one. Or pay for someone who has lung cancer who smoked two packs a day for 20 years. Or for someone who drives too fast, has a wreck and requires massive amounts of surgery. Or for someone who eats so much they have clogged arteries by the time they are 30. We could go on forever with this. In my opinion, we all should do our part to help ensure a better, healthier society because society as a whole benefits - and because *it's the moral thing to do*. (Yes, I know, a startling thing for me to say since we all know liberals and agnostics have no morals. /end sarcasm)
People have sex whether they can afford protection or not. Thinking that isn't true or expecting it to happen is the same thing as saying teenagers shouldn't and won't have sex. Hellooooooooooooo. People have sex whether they can afford protection or not. Maybe they can't afford it because they were poor stewards or they're lazy or whatever nasty description you can think of, but the bottom line is people are going to have sex. If you want the numbers of abortions to decrease, if you believe abortion is an evil blight on the country, then shouldn't you support measures to decrease the numbers?
You can get private insurance
You can get private insurance on your own. You dont have to be in a pool. And that's what I meant when I said I don't like paying for someone elses good times like when they're out there parting and drinking themselves to death or having their drug parties then ending up in the ER. And I'd rather pay school taxes,although I don't have a child in school,than for Planned Parenthood to killed them. Entitlement Reform needs to be done on women who have multipile children. Example: you will be helped with 2 kids(3 maybe)any more than these, you pay the rest. And who's the father? You dont know? Don't want to say? we'll reduce a portion of the money.Simple things such as this can easily be enforced in Entitlement Reform. What we need to teach is RESPONSIBILITY.We can't be doling out money just cause that person refuses to be a responible person.
Insurance of any kind is a
Insurance of any kind is a pool.
I don't like paying for some of the things my taxes and insurance pay for. What thinking person would say differently? You're missing the entire point of my original comment. If you don't want (as many) abortions, then you're going to have to be willing for changes to be made in other areas.
That reads a bit like a
That reads a bit like a ransom note.
Yes, because practical
Yes, because practical discussion is always the same as demanding ransom.
Changes in other areas, yes.
Changes in other areas, yes. Fund abortion clinics, no.
Did you read anything I wrote
Did you read anything I wrote in my original comment?
Yes. On which one do you
Yes. On which one do you disagree with me ?
You can get private insurance
You can get private insurance on your own. You dont have to be in a pool. And that's what I meant when I said I don't like paying for someone elses good times like when they're out there parting and drinking themselves to death or having their drug parties then ending up in the ER. And I'd rather pay school taxes,although I don't have a chid in school,than for Planned Parenthood to killed them. Entitlement Reform needs to be done on women who have multipile children. Example: you will be helped with 2 kids(3 maybe)any more than these, you pay the rest. And who's the father? You dont know? Don't want to say? we'll reduce a portion of the money.Simple things such as this can easily be enforced in Entitlement Reform. What we need to teach is RESPONSIBILITY.We can't be doling out money just cause that person refuses to be a responible person.
Where did you get "Getting
Where did you get "Getting pregnant and then abort the baby is like a criminal getting a Get out jail free card" from????? You are assuming that abortions NEVER come from rape.
You need to evolve as a human being. You're a piece of vile smelling shit!
You can tell alot from people
You can tell alot from people who bloviate like you. You dont belong in this discusion.
@USMCvet bravo for you sir!
@USMCvet bravo for you sir! but trying to reason with todays republican is a waste of your precious time! Those hypocrites are so screwed up! they preach how everybody should live on their terms while living a completely different lifestyle themselves!!! these idiots amuse me!! their anti gay but always seem to get cought in some gay guys bed!! or scream about abortion when behind close doors their getting an abortion!! LMAO I have no respect for todays republican!! NONE!!!