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Lyons Jewelers Closes Store to Mourn President Obama's Victory

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Lyons Jewelers, in Bedford, Virginia, was closed on Wednesday. A sign in the store stated the closing was to "mourn the loss of the America that our forefathers endowed to us."

Another sign in the store read: "Lyons will reopen tomorrow to continue the fight against a president who seeks my demise" and "Shame on VA & USA," reports WDBJ-TV.

Apparently, the company is mourning the fact that President Obama won re-election and Virginia's 13 electoral votes.

A third sign in the store read: "I know I didn't build this — God did," which was a twist on President Obama's speech in Virginia, months ago, in which he said everyone had help along the way to success.

In response, a customer hung a sign outside the store which read: "I am sorry you feel this way!!! I do bussiness [sic] I guess I will take it somewhere else!!"

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chuck1al's picture

@Carolandv: You should get a

@Carolandv: You should get a 2nd opinion.

Chuck

Walt_Hutchens's picture

I'll just tackle a couple of

I'll just tackle a couple of statements here:

"... our unflagging support for Israel, while it treats Palestinians no better than the Nazis treated the Jews."

So Israel has killed over seven million Palistinians? With rape, torture, and medical 'research' thrown in? Really? Who knew ...

"We could cut our military budget by 50% and we'd still be spending more on defense than the second largest military spender in the world - we don't need more money to keep our military strong, we just need defense contractors that aren't addicted to inflated salaries and offer only token patriotism."

You've got a point here but I don't think you know what it is.

Two figures for you: Current cost of equipment for a U.S. combat soldier: $17,500. The rifle is about $1000, the armored vest about another $1000, the helmet, $250, but there are 70-some additional items.

Current cost of equipment for a third world soldier: $100 or so. That's an AK-47 variant and a uniform; Many third world armies don't even provide helmets.

The same kinds of numbers -- although not always so extreme -- apply to our Air Force and Navy. We provide 'nothing but the finest,' and the result is that we spend far more than any possible enemy PER UNIT of capability. So when you compare the total military budgets, there's the impression that we're overwhelmingly stronger but that isn't the truth.

Does our soldier's equipment really make him the equal of 175 third world soldiers? Not at all: It makes him one of our sons, our next door neighbor, the kid we grew up with, and as one of us, going in harm's way for the richest country in the world we provide him with the best.

In my opinion we go too far. There comes a point at which numbers matter: 100 soldiers with a decent firearm (the AK-47 is fine) will nearly always beat five or ten, very often even 25, no matter how well equipped the smaller group is. If we had unlimited wealth maybe we could have BOTH the numbers and the 175-times greater unit price but not only is our wealth limited, the limit is going to come down fast in the next few years. Either we'll decide how to cut unit costs all across the services or we'll wind up with such small numbers that we won't be an effective fighting force.

cityboy's picture

A million people killed

A million people killed aren't treated any worse than one person killed - they all got the same treatment: death.

The palenstinians, whose families have lived on that land for at least the last 10 generations if not triple that or more, are now subject to being stopped on the street to have the "papers" checked, they need to obtain permits in order to obtain jobs, public accommodations treat them as second class citizens or pariahs, they get stoned and publicly beaten for talking to or dating members of the "pure", race, and they are constantly being evicted from their homes and having the buildings bulldozed so Jews can take the land for their own. All of this occurs with the government's blessing. That sounds just like the lead up to WWII, as far as treatment of oppressed peoples goes.

As far as comparing military expenses - that wasn't comparing third world countries, that figure of the US spending more than the next seven largest spending countries on defense are modern, industrialized nations - not Ghana or Somalia or other third world nations. Third world nations don't have the GDP to get within the top 50 on that list - they're more concerned with getting enough to eat (unless they're N. Korea, who just let their people starve so they can continue equipping and feeding their soldiers).

Are you suggesting that we are sending our foot soldiers against an enemy outnumbering us 175 to 1? The only time I see that kind of ratio against us is when it's one of our planes or ships or drones dropping bombs or missiles on crowds that size or larger.

We ended the cold war by pushing military expenditures to the point where trying to keep up with us bankrupted the Russians, there's no reason for us to keep pushing ourselves to that point as well.

gem's picture

Everyone is entitled to give

Everyone is entitled to give their opinion, even if it is obnoxious or uninformed. Everyone is free to avoid doing business with or associating with those they disagree with or find untrustworthy(this goes for either side in opposition). The Christian Right-wing, as the previous majority, has used these tactics to economically pressure the Left to be silent. Now that the Democrats have a clear majority we can reciprocate or simply ignore these fanatics as they fade into oblivion. Though most of us have adapted day-by-day to our changing environment, Neo-cons have chosen to  isolate themselves from reality for decades. The 2012 election woke up many of them, but it was Rip Van Winkle falling asleep in one era then waking up in a completely new one. Yes, these zealots did this to themselves, but they still deserve our pity. They should be treated with as much compassion as those with  Alzheimer's patients who have unpredictable periods of lucidity then confusion. The Neo-cons chose to dissociate themselves from reality, but they are no less sick & confused. We  can no longer allow them to obstruct the progress of the US or obfuscate the truth, but we can be gentle & empathetic as we bring them out of delusion & back into the 21st century. There is always the question if we do more harm than good when we strip away anyone's fantasies, but the fantasies of White, Christian Neo-cons have caused so many others in the country to suffer that they cannot be allowed to continue. Waking them is not a punitive action, but self-protection on our part. Hopefully, they will understand this as they assimilate back into the real world. 

USMCvet's picture

Why in the world are

Why in the world are republicans SUDDENLY talking about the debt when Bush, who's huge debt, we're still paying for. It was Cheney, who said deficits don't matter. Where was the outrage from republicans then???????

Sure, Bush maybe gone, but the legacy of the massive deficit he left us, is still here and our kids and grandkids will have to pay it off....

But Noooo...not a single word from republicans on that. Why? Why do deficits matter now, and not under Bush, when we're still paying for his massive deficits? It isn't going away republicans.....

Saddenedbyyourignorance's picture

Rebecca O'Reilly Boyle -

Rebecca O'Reilly Boyle - Poor, ignorant Rebecca, you and your party never learn. Americans spoke loudly and clearly on election night and you still have the unmitigated gall to write such ignorant, misinformed, racist drivel. I don't call you a racist because you didn't vote for or support President Obama, I call you a racist because you are. You see, you gave yourself away with such references to food stamps and welfare recipients. Not that all of those who receive such assistance are minorities (not by a long shot), but I know that when racists like YOU make those kinds of references, that's what you think and believe. Thank God there are only a small minority of racists in this country, proven by Tuesday's election results. You see, what you and many others like you failed to realize is that everything begins and ends with God and He doesn't like ugly, hatred, evil or racism. Therefore, there was NO WAY Romney was going to win. You need JESUS! Good luck!

carolandv's picture

"Saddened by your

"Saddened by your ignorance",

Voting for BO did not make you anti-racist any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. It is common liberal-speak to name call when facts fail! Ms. Boyle gave you many facts...you have none in response, so you name call.

What does God say about voting for a man who advocates late term abortion, advocates same-sex marriage, and who attended a church whose pastor used the Lord's name in vain? God has very harsh and specific words for these major infractions.

It might be time for a God lesson...pray you find His message and turn ignorance into knowledge. God Bless!

chuck1al's picture

@Carolandv: You're sadden by

@Carolandv: You're sadden by someone else's ignorance!

With your world view of a supernatural dimension to the universe and virgin birth's, talking snakes, endorsement of slavery, women are forced to marry their rapist, stoning to death of your neighbor for working on the Sabbath, child rape and incest, genocide.

You're operating with a delusion of what reality is.

For you to call another person ignorant is laughable.

As Freud said "people who believe in god are suffering form a neurosis and delusions".

Chuck

carolandv's picture

Chuck1, Notice the comment in

Chuck1,

Notice the comment in quotes, I was quoting a person who "was saddened...". Just to set the record straight. God Bless you!

chuck1al's picture

@Carolandv: Why not address

@Carolandv: Why not address your delusions.

Chuck

carolandv's picture

Chuck, I let God do that...He

Chuck,

I let God do that...He gave me a clean bill of health and a hearty thumb's up. How about you?

Again, God Bless!

RyanD's picture

Please help me out! I don't

Please help me out! I don't see the connection between the president get re-elected and this jewelry store owner closing door to protest for Wednesday and put his blame on the shame of VA & US voters.

Did Mr. Romney promise him to buy from his store 2 tons of gold leaf and 36 diamond bracelets for decorating on the deck board the 3 new fleets of navy ship? That may make sense because seeing the shinny gold leaf ships and the sparkling diamond on them really show off the power of our navy and we should admire the powerful image of these golden ship like we stand in front of the Trump casino to see the sparkling gold stars on it.

Oh, may be there is a plan to order Navy gold rings for thousands of Navy officers who will serve on board of these 36 new ships as the navy pride tradition. Now I know why he so angry to launch his protest.

Shame of VA voters and Obama as they shattered the dream of this jewelry store owner, destroy his dream of wealth and future hope for President Romney. I support his protest as a symbol of courage and patriotic. I even want him to prolong his protest for at least a year or 2 years to make his point. Go my hero owner !!! don't back down until 2016.

Steve Boyd's picture

It's simple Ryan, he's

It's simple Ryan, he's pouting. He took his ball and went home. He's extremely butthurt.

cityboy's picture

Quick! Someone call them a

Quick! Someone call them a waaaahhhhmbulance!

This is the behavior of a 13-year old whining that they don't get their way when they lose a fair contest

imominous's picture

Was gonna buy a $50,000

Was gonna buy a $50,000 diamond tennis bracelet to celebrate victory, but they were closed so I went to J. C. Penny instead.

Walt_Hutchens's picture

Why is it always considered

Why is it always considered racism when someone says that a president who gave us six trillion in new debt, the highest number every of people on food stamps, and SO MUCH more -- and plans 'more of the same' -- isn't a good bet for a second term?

You want racism? How 'bout major media who can't say a word critical of President Obama because he's black?

Before attacking a man who seems to consider this election a disaster for our country, why don't you wait three or four years and see just how it goes? There are a whole lot of Obama policies and actions out there that are or shortly will be newly in effect that will start to change the way we live real soon now.

You can fault Romney for not running a top drawer campaign, perhaps even for not having chosen all the best policy positions to win, but he is a decent, capable, and serious executive who would have done us immense good in the days to come.

Again, I suggest waiting a bit before shooting the messenger. And use the time to get any medical work you see in the future done now, put aside some money, buy a bunch of something that keeps forever that people will need if our economy collapses (gold isn't for everyone), and practice up on your prayer skills.

The road from here to 2016 looks like a superhighway but we will be turning off on various unpaved detours long before we get there.

USMCvet's picture

"Why is it always considered

"Why is it always considered racism when someone says that a president who gave us six trillion in new debt"?

HOW MUCH DEBT DID BUSH GIVE US????? WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR IT AND YOU IGNORE YOU STUPID TOOL!!!

"The road from here to 2016 looks like a superhighway but we will be turning off on various unpaved detours long before we get there."

You and your ilk have already driven the economic bus into the ditch...and now, you wanna do it again you racist jackass. The nation has seen what happens when republicans drive.

chuck1al's picture

@Walt Hitchens: Have you ever

@Walt Hitchens:

Have you ever analyzed why there are more people on food stamps?

Have you ever researched the cause of the great recession of 2008?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10?pagenumber=1

Have you ever read that the Republicans destroyed the American economy starting with Ronald Reagen.

Wall Street Journal Article:

Reagan insider: 'GOP destroyed U.S. Economy'

By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- "How my G.O.P. destroyed the U.S. economy." Yes, that is exactly what David Stockman, President Ronald Reagan's director of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote in a recent New York Times op-ed piece, "Four Deformations of the Apocalypse."

Get it? Not "destroying." The GOP has already "destroyed" the U.S. Economy, setting up an "American Apocalypse."

Yes, Stockman is equally damning of the Democrats' Keynesian policies. But what this indictment by a party insider -- someone so close to the development of the Reaganomics ideology -- says about America, helps all of us better understand how America's toxic partisan-politics "holy war" is destroying not just the economy and capitalism, but the American dream. And unless this war stops soon, both parties will succeed in their collective death wish.

But why focus on Stockman's message? It's already lost in the 24/7 news cycle. Why? We need some introspection. Ask yourself: How did the great nation of America lose its moral compass and drift so far off course, to where our very survival is threatened?

Chuck

bobhiggins's picture

No, I fault Romney for being

No, I fault Romney for being a transparently blatant liar and just not being smart enough nor fast enough on his feet for the job he was seeking.

carolandv's picture

Mr. Higgins, And you can say

Mr. Higgins,

And you can say this without your fingers crossed and outright laughing considering his opponent can't talk without a teleprompter and wore a wireless earpiece for debates 2 & 3 after his abysmal mental absence in debate 1????? And let's not forget Solyndra, Benghazi, Putin comment, the Leaf, campaign promises broken,ignoring Netanyahu,...and there is so much more!

God Bless you and may He open your eyes to the truth!

chuck1al's picture

@Carolandv: Yes you are

@Carolandv: Yes you are right, these gosh darn modern inventions. He should have used a cardboard megaphone, with his speech written on the back of his hand. You're an ignorant bitch.

Chuck

Mtguy12's picture

That earpiece nonsense was

That earpiece nonsense was put out by right wing bloggers and Fox ran with it. Solyndra was approved under the Bush administration but it's all Obama's fault, Benghazi is a bullshit red herring; the Ambassador is at fault for what happened for his reckless behavior and if you insist on yelling about security....well lets ask Paul Ryan why he said no to increased funding but I suppose if you think not allowing a handful of CIA agents to go over there and save the day like Jason Bourne to have been a real option I don't know what else to say about that one. Putin Comment, I'm not even sure what idiocy you're referring to, I assume it to be the Medvedev open mic comment wherein he essentially said he could give more attention to the issue after the election that the aforementioned tin foil hat wearing bloggers and idiots like Rush turned into an Obama/Kenya/Muslim/Resurgent Soviet conspiracy well again if you believe that I don't know what to say......Campaign promises broken!? lol, well that's a first damn that Obama for being the first politician to not fulfill all his promises....ignoring Netanyahu...all I can say to that is good; Israel's prime ministers should learn who needs who more and there is so much more overblown crap we could talk about!

God Bless you and may He open your blinkered eyes to the truth!

cityboy's picture

Almost all of that debt

Almost all of that debt increase at the start of Obama's first term was because he changed the way that the debt figure was calculated - he got rid of the dishonest accounting that completely hid from view the costs of our two ill-advised wars - the debt was there when he took office and he just stopped hiding it.

If you look at the objective figures, Obama has overseen the smallest increase in government spending since the Eisenhower years. Here's a source to back that up: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

More people on food stamps? So, the bankers and the people pulling in multi-million dollar paychecks crash our economy and put millions of people out of work before Obama comes into office, and while we are recovering more folks run out of savings and apply for food stamps, and that's his fault? How about all these millionaires (the ones the morons in this country try to convince us are the "job creators") who have wrangled their gross mismanagement of their businesses into the lowest taxes in the last 85 years, and they still haven't started creating jobs. They've proven that they're not going to help anyone get enough to eat until after their golden parachute, retirement plans, and second house and yacht are paid for.

carolandv's picture

Dear Cityboy, Your comments

Dear Cityboy,

Your comments tell everyone on this site YOU have never owned or operated a business...it might be time to consider getting off the government dole?

Eventually we all must grow up...well, maybe not in this administration...you could probably stretch the no-working thing for years now. God Bless!

USMCvet's picture

Your comments are smug and

Your comments are smug and outdated. I've read some of your posts and they are full of lies. Solyndra and Fast & Furious were started under Bush. You don't know how to do research. Stop lying to people.

As a 3rd generation US Marine, and ex-republican, I fought in both of Bush's unilateral wars. So did my wife. The unsolicited and unfounded wars kept us from our new family. For no reason. I had to turn my own business, that has been in my family for three generations over to someone else. When Bush was in power....we suffered! I will never forgive him. And that is when I left the republican party. His lies. His huge debt and deficits. Cheney saying deficits don't matter and so on. They were all lies. I lost business because oh him. With Obama, I have not been taxed. I'm building it back just fine...thank you very much.

As far as people on the government dole, I see you left the military, and republicans in NY-26 who wanted to keep theirs, so they voted in a Democrat for the first time in 100 years in the special election of 2011. No. Not one word about republicans who are the dole. If you took the time to do research, you'd be enlightened to know, that it's the rural parts of red states that take the most welfare. You'd also find, that it's the red states in the south that get hit with tornadoes, hurricanes, wildfires, droughts, and floods that continually ask for handouts...but No....not a word from republicans, like you, on this....it's only Democrats that are on the dole, right Carol???

carolandv's picture

USMC vet, Firstly, thank YOU

USMC vet,

Firstly, thank YOU for your service and for doing your country proud! As for "on the dole"...no one who is able should be "on the dole". It is time to get back to work.

Statistically, the percentage of minorities on welfare represents significantly more than their percent of the population. And 60%+, 70%+, and 90%+ of Asians, Mexican-Americans, and Blacks voted for BO. Not just Democrats are on welfare, but a significantly larger percentage of those on welfare vote democrat. This was not an attack but an observation based on factually reported data.

Also, in light of the news info on General Petraeus and all of the players in that mess (kept quiet until after the election), the cover-up on Benghazi (just wait for the next bit coming out), the truth about Fast and Furious (Bush did something similar, but they were not given to the enemy...read the entire story about this), and BO's help in NY after Sandy (just as damning as the Bush issues in New Orleans).

There is pay-back coming and America will never be the same...the socialist mentality has NEVER worked...it will NOT work now. God save us all from the fall-out of this election!

uhclem's picture

I don't know about it being

I don't know about it being racism, but it's something. The debt was created by the Congress and the need for the debt was to fund present and past bureaucracies created by present and past Congresses. I'll tell you what is racism, and it's gone totally mainstream, it's the old "one drop" rule. Back in the days of the Democrat KKK, it was said that if a person had one drop of Negro blood he was therefore a Negro. So I guess it's now ok to start using that rule again. Weird.

JDR's picture

I feel their pain. Every

I feel their pain. Every "producer" in this country should be in mourning because the American Dream has been wadded-up and thrown in the trash by the "takers" who made this happen. My prediction for the next four years is that the "47%" that Mr. Romney referred to will be expanded to 50% or more through expansion of Govt programs and handouts, and republicans will never win another presidential election unless one of two things happen. Either republicans have to pander to the "takers" too, which will only compound the problem, or a revolution will occur after complete economic and social collapse of our once great nation. One day my children and their children will sit in awe as they hear stories of a free country that once stood as the shining city on the hill, and wonder how things got so bad for them... 11/6/2012 will go down in history as the day that a once great nation fell to its knees at the direction of its own misguided citizens and the guidance of an inept leader. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that I am not...

gem's picture

If JDR & his ilk believed the

If JDR & his ilk believed the crap they put in their comments they would be packed up & all moving into one State or territory where they can be a majority again. Just go make your Theocratic nation with no Bill of Rights somewhere outside US territory. Even if you take over Kansas completely, you will be subject to the US Constitution & Bill of Rights. The USA will be better off without the White Separatist Hate Groups these fundamentalist Christian cults have become. So just pull your money, buy a Jim Jone's-like Compound in Guatemala or somewhere in Africa(like the Dutch) and you too can create your own Christian Apartheid nation.

How dare the Christian Taliban, who hate individual freedom, free speech, the separation of Church & State, universal suffrage, etc... claim they are Americans. This nation was founded by people escaping religious dictatorships. Americans aren't anti-religious, we are PRO-CHOICE/Pro-freedom. No one is stopping religious fanatics from practicing their rites on private property among their own kind. It is the fanatics who attempt to suppress the rights of others. The US has always had opposing views & ideologies, but it is the belief in the words of our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights & Constitution that defines Americans. Fundamentalist Christians DO NOT BELIEVE in these doctrines. They may hold citizenship here, but they hate what this nation represents. Because over 80% of them are over age 60 this is one anti-American hate group that we will not have to tolerate for long. Their own children disavow them, so even if we had a massive White baby-boom & influx of White immigrants, they won't be from the 18th century! As long as their is a USA it will remain dedicated to it's core principles of personal freedom & equality. Love it or leave it!

chuck1al's picture

@JDR: In order for democracy

@JDR: In order for democracy to work, a country needs an informed and educated voting population.

Sadly your kind is the rule not the exception.

You are neither informed nor educated, it is you and your fellow travelers that are bringing this once great nation down, with your ignorant world view that has no factual basis.

Chuck

jaysea32's picture

JDR - Nov 8 2012 -

JDR - Nov 8 2012 - 12:34pm Sadly you have a distorted view as to WHY there are so many "takers" in the country. The bases which have supported our economy for so many years experienced social cancers and consequently were destroyed. They were many and complex, and were driven by greed, accommodation, ignorance, outright lousy decisions, all of which contributed to the destruction of not only our country, but nations all around the world. A couple of those things are over-population and credit. Too many people saps the energy of the planet, and credit produces a false economy. Throw in automation and migration, and the problems are exacerbated. Like it or not, that's the way of life that has been evolved over the decades. Now it's coming to a head, and I, to, think you're right about what the children and grandchildren will reflect upon about this nation. But it won't be just this country, about all developed countries will undergo this transformation. But it is myopic and wrong to think it is only the result of an inept leader now.

jaysea

bmhay1's picture

Dear Jewelery Store

Dear Jewelery Store Owner...what a lunatic you must be! You will cause your own demise, for sure! Open your business, go about your own business and "RELEASE YOUR HATRED! If your problem is Racism, Racism is NOT born, it is learned, and you CAN teach an old dog new tricks, so start learning people. God Bless President Obama, may he have a much more PLEASANT FOUR YEARS THIS TIME AROUND than the last four years, as far as trying to get something done, and in working with the opposition. May he be guided and directed into right action, right decisions; blessings to everyone involved in these actions and decisions; blessings to his family and God Bless America! Keep us strong and free!

Saddenedbyyourignorance's picture

Love you!!!!!

Love you!!!!!

carolandv's picture

Critical thinking and

Critical thinking and analysis are a must before you open your brain and put comments on the internet for all to see. Ignorance is a "learned" behavior!

God Bless and may you see the truth before it kicks you in the backside as it inevitably will!

Saddenedbyyourignorance's picture

Love you, too!

Love you, too!

cityboy's picture

Lol @ carolandv talking about

Lol @ carolandv talking about critical thinking. Ignorance is not knowing about something, so saying it is learned is the opposite of what that word means.

And please, before you unleash more of your BS, take a moment to read from that book you consider holy and infallible:

Romans 13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.

carolandv's picture

Cityboy, Cityboy, ..."learned

Cityboy,

Cityboy,

..."learned" is in quotes. This would be called "using literary license": a twist of words, a dichotomy, mutual exclusivity, that which appears one way but is actually the opposite.

Learning is important and may you learn (it is truly meant this time!)His truth and use it! God Bless!

Steve Boyd's picture

She's always forgets the part

She's always forgets the part that says "Judge not, lest ye be judged" too. She can judge 'til the cows come home and usually does. BUT, she never responds to the stuff she SHOULD be responding to, just posting useless nonsense. I'm sure she's off flogging herself and praying for you though.

JDR's picture

Keep us strong and free? He's

Keep us strong and free? He's a democrat! Everything he stands for is contrary to strong and free. Everything that has made us strong is based on American ingenuity, work ethic, skill, and drive. Everything that has kept us Free is based on the strength that came from Americans driving themselves and each other to greater and greater achievements (and yes... monetary gain). If those who are the top producers are punished for their accomplishments, the drive to achieve is destroyed. When there is no 1%, and the 47% becomes the 70%, who will pay the bills? Who will pay to keep the military strong, and who will then defend our country against those who despise our Freedoms? Nobody... We will be weak, and we will be subjects... Unless we change our course.

carolandv's picture

Correct thinking will never

Correct thinking will never go unnoticed or challenged by the masses of lemmings walking to the cliff edge. God Bless you and your comment!

chuck1al's picture

@JDR: Another totally

@JDR: Another totally ignorant statement.

Chuck

cityboy's picture

It's not our freedoms that

It's not our freedoms that our enemies hate us for, its our foreign policies that victimize them and cause them harm - such as our unflagging support for Israel, while it treats Palestinians no better than the Nazis treated the Jews.

Keep our military strong? We could cut our military budget by 50% and we'd still be spending more on defense than the second largest military spender in the world - we don't need more money to keep our military strong, we just need defense contractors that aren't addicted to inflated salaries and offer only token patriotism.

And yeah, if taxes go up so that the ultra-rich actually pay their fair share for a change, I'm sure they'll all just stop doing what they do to earn money and leave everyone to starve.

carolandv's picture

Cityboy, Taxes by their

Cityboy,

Taxes by their definition are charged for a product or service. Federal taxes pay for every citizen's protection (the military), infrastructure (highways), education (public schools), government assistance programs (food stamps, etc.) and every citizen should pay their "fair share"/equal share of these.

However, the "ultra rich" use them less often if ever. They often times send their children to private schools, many have private jets, and they are not on food stamps...yet YOU seem to think that they should pay MORE for services that they use LESS???!!!

Hmmmmmmmmmm...with this logic extrapolating even further, logic says that whenever anyone walks into a store to purchase anything (let's say an ice cream cone), everyone will be asked when they make. That way, the "ultra rich" can pay $10 for a cone, middle income people can pay $4, and the store owner will pay the welfare recipient $1 to "buy" the cone from him.

Just sayin'...wrong thinking brought to its endpoint always reveals the flaws in the logic behind it. God Bless!

chuck1al's picture

@Carolandy: I would suppose

@Carolandy: I would suppose that you have no knowledge of the welfare the taxpayers were soaked for to cover the too big to fail banks and mortgage companies.

How convenient for you.

Just shows your a partisan hack.

Chuck

Mtguy12's picture

Your strawman argument isn't

Your strawman argument isn't worth arguing with, but did it occur to you that these so called "job creating" "ultra rich" use the infrastructure more than everyone else? They don't drive on the highway but I'll bet the goods you claim they create are trucked on them, I bet their employees are educated in public schools, I'll bet those private jets use municipal airports/fields...

Their wealth isn't created in a vaccum for Christ's sake and anyone who makes that argument is a dullard it uses the municiple power grid, it uses city water, it is protected by the police and the fire department, it's accessed by public roads....nope because in their private lives the ultra rich don't use them they shouldn't pay for any of this. There is a term for something that subsists to the detriment of the host body, it's called a parasite and pretending that someone on food stamps or section 8 housing hurts the US more is a joke.

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