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Fact Checkers Debunk Mitt Romney's False Statements about Pres. Obama and Libya Attack
Speaking in an interview with '60 Minutes' this week, President Obama said that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has a tendency to "shoot first and aim later."
That is a pretty tame comment compared to the fact checkers who are having a field day with Romney's latest attack on President Obama in wake of the tragic killing of an U.S. ambassador and three staff members in Libya on 9/11/12.
On Tuesday night, the Romney campaign said: "It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
After Romney’s statement, Tuesday night, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus tweeted on Twitter: “Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic.”
However, as Salon.com's Joan Walsh points out:
That lie was apparently based on a message released by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo before the attack, which was designed to reduce tensions inflamed by the hate-speech of Terry Jones and his Muslim-hating supporters, who are promoting a despicably anti-Islam film via YouTube.
The Cairo Embassy statement read: “The United States Embassy in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” It didn’t come from either President Obama or the State Department, and it was issued before the killings in Benghazi, not after them.
During a Wednesday morning news conference, Romney had a chance to correct the record, and acknowledge that the Cairo Embassy statement didn’t come from Pres. Obama and that it preceded the killings, but instead Romney claimed that the Obama administration’s statements were “apologizing” for America:
However, PolitiFact debunked that claim and added:
"This is a theme for Romney: He has long accused Obama of apologizing for America, starting in 2010, when Romney published No Apology: The Case for American Greatness. Since then, he has repeatedly criticized what he has called an “apology tour” by Obama shortly after he took office. PolitiFact has examined those speeches, consulted experts on speechmaking and apologies, and rated Romney’s claim Pants on Fire."
FactCheck.org stated:
"Romney has falsely accused Obama of “apologizing for America” many times before. The line has been a dependable applause-getter with conservative audiences. But we found no basis for this claim in Obama’s previous speeches and remarks. And other fact-checkers came to similar conclusions."
The Washington Post said that Romney responded "recklessly" and labeled his statements a "series of dubious attacks."
A few weeks ago, a Romney advisor said the campaign won’t be “dictated by fact-checkers,” which may be the most truthful statement the Romney campaign has made.
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Fact checking has become
Fact checking has become synonymous with ensuring that the Democratic ideals get pushed to the foreground of the press and people see the words "fact check" as it must be true. When it only takes a few key strokes to find stories of the President or people in his charge apologizing for America, our ideals, or our beliefs. This incident is no different. He states: "While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants."
That first part was an apology no if, ands or buts about it. He doesn't say that the United States supports freedom of speech; he says the United States reject efforts to denigrate religious beliefs in an attempt to pacify those who are offended; instead of confronting those who have done the damage to us. Look I don't apologize to the burgler when he hurts his shoulder banging in my door. Why are we apologizing to terrorist who killed our citizens?
Blaming this incident on a film is ludicrous, these are people who have made the decision to act out in an irrational manner. Do Christians take to the streets, riot and kill people when an artist decides that a "dung covered Madonna" (the Virgin Mary) needed to be shown in a Brooklyn Art Museum. Obama's need to cull favor with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt didn't help much since they acted out as well so while he is busy sending out apology cards and trying to act tough to keep his overseas policy intact the media is going to "fact check" the hell out of Romney who was willing to make a statement while Obama was off to Vegas for another campaign fundraiser the day of the incident instead of cancelling it and monitoring the progress of the situation in Northern Africa.
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PLEASE EVERYONE: Look into
PLEASE EVERYONE: Look into the history of Joseph Smith and the mormon church. THEN decide.
How can Romney lead the Free
How can Romney lead the Free World if he can't lie convincingly?
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Romney cannot connect with
Romney cannot connect with people, respond spontaneously or emotionally because he is a sociopath. High functioning sociopaths make good CEO's, but they need scripts to advise them what emotion to fake while they are reading it. Sociopaths aren't all criminals but they aren't "All there" as human beings. They feel no sympathy, empathy, or love, but many function extremely well in analytical professions. Few can fake emotions well enough to become successful politicians, because though they often enjoy faking emotions, they rarely do it well or long enough to fool voters through an election cycle. Politicians like Reagan & Clinton love people, love rope-lines, love interacting one-on-one and public speaking FEEDS their energies. So Americans do have "a feel" for those who "feel" for them. Romney doesn't feel. He likes winning, then he gets bored like he did being Governor of MA & CEO of Bain. When he finds out that congress isn't his rubber stamp, he'll get bored again, which maybe why he's keen on war with Iran(Afganistan isn't enough). Playing war with other people's lives at stake beats sitting in economic & budget meetings (though we know he's planning to pass these off to Ryan).
Can you provide evidence to
Can you provide evidence to back up your claim that he's a sociopath? Or are you just guessing? Have you seen an psychological profile of Mitt Romney based on a professional diagnosis? I'd like to know how you think he meets these criteria from the DSM IV:
"Diagnostic Criteria of DSM-IV
The DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, More) describes Antisocial Personality Disorder as follows:
There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviours as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honour financial obligations;
Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;
The individual is at least age 18 years.
There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years."
If, as I suspect, you're unable to provide evidence backing up your claim, then you're committing libel. In other words, you're lying.
You think that starting a war beats sitting in meetings, so he'll pass these off to Ryan? Are you aware that our current President has missed over half of his intelligence briefings? Seems we have direct evidence that he's doing exactly what you PREDICT Romney will do! http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-skipping-more-than-half-of-his-daily-intelligence-meetings/2012/09/10/6624afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
Your ability to post a
Your ability to post a definition for DSM-IV is admirable.
You might want to spend some time looking up the definition of lying though.
One does not have to present evidence of something for it to be true. I am not saying that the individual you responded to is being truthful, but a lack of evidence does not make something a lie. In order for something to be a lie one has to knowingly make a false statement.
1) The other poster might believe what he is saying. Under such circumstances his statement is not a lie, even if it is inaccurate.
2) The other poster's statement could be completely accurate, even if he lacks the ability to prove it. Under such circumstances it is not a lie, merely unsubstantiated.
For example:
I claim that the moon is less than 250,000 miles from the earth. I provide no evidence to support that statement. According to you that means I am lying. If it is a lie then it is untrue. Therefore, according to you, the moon is more than 250,000 miles from the earth.
While your looking at
While your looking at internet research on DSM-IV, take a few minutes to research the mormon church. Anyone that could possibly fall for this kind of BS should not hold public office.
PLEASE EVERYONE: Look into the history of Joseph Smith and the mormon church. THEN decide.
Fact checking opinions.
Fact checking opinions. Didn't know that was possible. The first person I heard comment was Clinton. She did not sound apologetic. She sounded unsure of the backgfround nature of the attacks intimating that perhaps this was a small band of extremists rather than a concerted effort by an organized entity. I'm sure she will be proven wrong. Why don't you fact check that opinion too. Maybe the President himself should actually say some that clarifies this matter.
Clinton's statement regarding
Clinton's statement regarding a radical faction group was from first reports from the CIA, which seem to be correct.
Republicans never have
Republicans never have anything intelligent to say! Willard your great white dope is pathetic! every time that idiot opens his mouth he sticks his foot in it! and all internet republicans can do is make up excuses for their wanna be messiah! go ask the brits what they think of Willard!! LMAO now some moron here claims ''fact check is LIBERAL!" unreal! republicans are in my opinion becoming a CULT!
Anytime someone like you
Anytime someone like you paints the whole Republican party as "never having anything intelligent to say" I immediately dismiss you as someone either lacking in reason or intelligence. The fact that you can write in complete sentences (although your punctuation leaves a lot to be desired) leads me to conclude that you're lacking in the ability to reason.
I wish like hell that all the partisan idiots on both sides would lose their internet connections.
Let's get this clear: both parties are filled with intelligent, hardworking citizens who love their country. Unfortunately, both parties are also run by people who deliberately pit citizen against citizen, hurting our country in the process. Divide and Conquer is their method, and it's effective.
Both parties have their fair share of lying, cheating, power-hungry rich people who don't give a rat's ass about you and me.
The top people in both parties are so wealthy they have no idea what you and I go through. That includes Obama and Romney.
Please, stop making such sweeping generalizations. They only make you look foolish.
Is commenting on another's
Is commenting on another's punctuation when your own post contains punctuation errors embarrassing ?
When quoting someone you should use commas as demonstrated below.
Anytime someone like you paints the whole Republican party as, "never having anything intelligent to say," I immediately dismiss you as someone either lacking in reason or intelligence.
Look who is talking! You are
Look who is talking! You are SUCH a hypocrite.
Who says any of the people
Who says any of the people who killed sikhs and others were Christian this is the 1st time anyone has mentioned it...I saw a bigoted fool who couldn't tell the difference between sikhs and Muslims no mention of his or anyones involved"spiritual beliefs"..and while we're at it read the quran and tell me it is a religion of peace also look around the planet everywhere there is a large group of Muslims you have killing of any others who are not Muslim get your facts straight. Islam is a religion of killing anyone who is not a Muslim..All over the world wherever there are Muslims there is killing in the name of God or Allah...THe Idea of Muhammed is to kill anyone not agreeing with his version of the truth Islam is a religion of killing all and any who get in their way...
Read the Bible, the original
Read the Bible, the original Bible all the Christian Evangelicals swear is the literal truth & word of God, and tell me Christianity is a religion of peace. Let's not even try to compare how many people have been killed in the name of Jehovah, Christ and Allah. Our time is better spent teaching Americans their own constitution & bill of rights. The United States government (regardless of the many religions within it's borders) is non-Theocratic. We don't fight wars FOR ANYONE's religious dogma. We defend ourselves, support our allies & try to encourage Theocratic nations to be tolerant of their minorities. Any Christian who wants to fight a war with Islam is welcome to leave this US, form your own religious army abroad(as Bin Ladin did) and try to fight a private holy war. Be prepared to have your citizenship revoked as a traitor to American principals, policies & laws. Apocalyptic religious, every one of them, are a danger to all life on this planet.
Whether or not Christians
Whether or not Christians follow the advice in the Bible has no reflection on whether that advice is true or not. The Bible is a standard to which Christians aspire; but the Bible also points out that we are all imperfect people who fall short of that goal.
That being said, I agree that we should spend more time teaching our citizens what the Constitution and Bill of Rights say. Most people are woefully ignorant in that area.
However, a question for you; what is America to do when Al Queda and the Taliban have vocally encouraged the destruction of America? What do we do with the radical extremists who are out to destroy us? We are not at war with Islam: but we are at war with extremists within Islam.
The Taliban's supreme leader, Mullah Muhammad Omar, said after September 11 that "the plan [to destroy America] is going ahead and God willing it is being implemented, but it is a huge task beyond the will and comprehension of human beings. If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time."
Sheikh Ikrama Sabri, a Palestinian Mufti (Islamic religious authority) said in a radio sermon broadcast in 1997, "Oh Allah, destroy America, her agents, and her allies! Cast them into their own traps, and cover the White House with black!"
It may not be a religious war for us, as you said, but it is a religious war for them, and war with people like that is not at all the same as conventional warfare.
Man, I really didn't want to
Man, I really didn't want to have to vote for Obama. I really didn't want to have to stick by him another 4 years. But I think I'd rather stick with him than vote this dipstick in. I tell you we need a third party do we will never again have to pick between 2 bad candidates, well have to pick from 3. Republicans should feel ashamed that they could not produce a better candidate :(
I fear that the Powers That
I fear that the Powers That Be will never allow a third party into the mix. They have too much to lose to allow it to happen, and enough money and influence to ensure that things remain as they are.
The two party system will be the downfall of America.
You're right - Republicans should feel ashamed that they couldn't produce a better candidate, just as Democrats should be ashamed that the helped put a man in the White House who had no experience governing, no business experience, and no military experience.
For the first time in my life, I may voluntarily choose not to vote this time.
Absolutely right! The average
Absolutely right! The average registered Republican is not to blame for Romney, or McCain in 2008. Just because you have to register under a Party to vote in the primaries does not make you obligated to support them when that Party selects someone you don't like, you disagree with, or you are ashamed to vote for. This 2-Party monopoly is not fair to a nation as diverse as these United States. We need independent legislators who will pass laws making it easier for 3rd Party candidates to get on the ballad in all 50 states + territories. The only way that will happen is if States send Independent & 3rd Party candidates to Congress. So get started! Be the change you want to see in this world.
Until the average Republican
Until the average Republican stands up on his/her hind legs and denounces the far-right wing that is taking over the once Grand Old Party (and turning it into plain ole gop), they will continue to get the likes of mitt and twit.
A country get the government they deserve - as is the Republican party...
Romney might be an idiot but
Romney might be an idiot but his lies are no worse than Obamas stories remember how he won a peace prize because he was going to end the wars in Afghanistan and close Quantanamo bay??? Now you're 16 trillion {16 000 000 000 000} dollars in debt and the only people with money are the rich industrialists great job how could anyone even with their facts wrong do any worse???If you want someone to start a 3rd world war then Obama is your man revote for him and see how long it takes to start the 3rd World war...
Its funny seeing the ideologs
Its funny seeing the ideologs calling the fact checkers liberal. FactCheck.org tends to be neutral and a few months back was called into question by MSNBC. They objected to a conclusion of undetermined that didn't seem to match the research in the rest of the article.
Question Authority, Anarchy & Assumptions
What our embassies say is, by
What our embassies say is, by definition, what the United States says. They are our ears an eyes--and mouth--overseas. When our first words regarding a controversial film about Islam is to say, "No, we didn't mean it! Please! We take it all back! It's not like us at all!", then someone's got to remind the world that we are a diverse country (remember that word?)
Romney is NOT the story here, it's the world of (say it with me ) ISLAMIC TERRORISM, not "workplace violence" (as the Ft. Hood shooting was called), not "overseas contingency operations" (as they are called terrorist acts). This administration has systematically and intentionally struck the words "Islamic terrorists" or "Muslim extremists" from it vocabulary. FBI and DoD training materials have been purged of these words. Under repeated attempts by Daryl Issa to make him say the words "Islamic terror", Eric Holder would NOT mouth those words. He went to extremes to say anything BUT those words. It was embarrassing.
Of course Obama, too, apologies for us all over the world. From the start, and in perfect accord with his upbringing and the "dreams from my father", he has taken the view that the U.S. is too big for its britches, we use too much energy, we've have periods of shame we're "still working out", we have bullied other nations and imposed ourselves on unwilling, smaller places. We're the global problem, not Islam.
And this is why he said in '08 we are "days away from fundamentally transforming the United States." We now know what he meant: we have to be taken down a peg or two, and he'll be the one to do it. We're not "exceptional", we're just an "also-ran"--or should be. With "four more years", we will be.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH you don't
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH you don't ever have anything intelligent to share! it's the constant bashing of Obama followed by endless rants AS* KISSING anything republicans say and do!! You have zero credibility! ZERO it's the same old song and dance with you!
Amen...
Amen...
He sounds plenty intelligent
He sounds plenty intelligent to me. That has no bearing on whether he's right or wrong. But you're painting with such a broad brush as to make your statements meaningless.
Do you even read your past
Do you even read your past posts - you invented the 'board brush... or are you just an etch-A-scetch wanna be.
Actually, if you want to
Actually, if you want to paraphrase the embassy's statement it would be more accurate to say "We reject the redneck bigots who made that film and we agree with you that they're a bunch of ignorant pricks but we respect free speech so they're allowed to be bigoted rednecks if they really want but their ignorance is not representative of our country". I'm sure if they weren't diplomats they would have said that more clearly so even you could understand it.
Hey, as long as we're talking about terrorists, let's have a little talk about the white Christian who shot all those Sikhs in their temple. Or the white Christian military members (and ex members) who murdered 2 people to keep secret their plot to poison Washington state's apple crop (I still haven't heard how they planned to do that) assassinate the president and overthrow the government. Or how about the white Christians who terrorize Planned Parenthood offices and murder Dr's? How about the white Christian who blew up the Oklahoma City government building which was our largest domestic terrorist attack until 9/11. If you're looking for an extended terrorist campaign (other than the repeated attacks on PP) how about the white Christian IRA?
Oh, I'm sorry, I suppose you don't consider those terrorists since they're white Christians. Which is exactly why Holder doesn't use the term "Islamic terror". Because it is too narrow and doesn't address the larger problem. We're not just trying to stop Islamic terrorism. We want to stop ALL terrorism.
Wade Michael Page (the Sikh
Wade Michael Page (the Sikh temple shooter) was not a Christian. He was a racist white supremacist.
I found no evidence in the news reports that the militia members who murdered two people in Georgia were Christians.
I found no evidence that Scott Roeder, who killed abortion physician George Tiller, was a Christian.
Prior to Dr. Tiller, you have to go back 14 years to find a murder of an abortion doctor. You only have to go back three days to find muslim extremists who murdered innocent people.
Most of those people are whackos, plain and simple. But I absolutely agree with you, they are definitely terrorists and our government needs to constantly be on the lookout for people like them, just as it needs to be on the lookout for far-left murdering extremists like Amy Bishop.
Stop generalizing - you only
Stop generalizing - you only make yourself look foolish... LOL
Hypocrite.
You took the words right out
You took the words right out of my mouth! SH*T KICKERS like @big jack constantly bore anybody with his islamic terrorist rants but somehow this bigot is mysteriously silent on domestic terrorism 99.999999% cause by WHITE so called christian groups! @big jack is your garden variety fux news viewer that probably lives in the dirt poor south and hates seeing anyone in power thats not WHITE christian male!! @big jack is a dying breed of old southern confederate hate!
Jack's post was intelligent
Jack's post was intelligent (which is not to say correct) and he backed up his statements with quotes, while your post was filled with conjecture and insults. You must be a northerner to assume that he's from the south.
Let's see, how many assumptions are in your post?
You assume he's a bigot. I see no evidence that he is "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion" (that's the definition of a bigot. From my perspective, you meet that criteria better than he does).
You assume that 99.999999% of domestic terrorism is carried out by white Christian groups. There's no evidence to back that up.
You assume that he's a Fox News viewer. Bearing in mind that for ten solid years, Fox News has had more viewers than any other news channel, you may be correct - but you don't know.
You assume he lives not only in the south, but the dirt poor south.
You assume he hates anyone in power that's not a white Christian male. There's no evidence to support that.
You assume that he's part of the old southern confederate. There's no evidence for that.
In short, your post is lacking in credibility, facts, or reason. But your post definitely meets the definition of a bigot. Congratulations.
YOU certainly do a lot of
YOU certainly do a lot of ASSuming yourself. First sentence speaks for itself - hypocrite.
There's no greater hypocrite
There's no greater hypocrite than a self proclaimed 'tolerant' person showing his 'intolerance'! You do seem to excel at name calling though.
I really just love "Fact
I really just love "Fact checkers" who can't get the Facts right. I think that is what is known as Socialist or perhaps Progressive Democract or Moronic Obamite or in the crudest case Islamist.
Airdale
Progressive is the new and
Progressive is the new and improved name for COMMUNIST.
I second Sheppard's comments.
I second Sheppard's comments. (btw, you might consider changing your user name to just plain Airhead)
Can we see your rebuttal to
Can we see your rebuttal to the comments in this article with something other than nonsensical sound bytes? You make yourself look like a fool...
Romney will never be able to
Romney will never be able to match all the lies and deceit practiced by Obama, who is running scared right now.
Romney can't "match" all the
Romney can't "match" all the lies...because he has far exceeded the numbers already.
jaysea
I didn't realize a
I didn't realize a substantial lead in electoral votes based on state by state polling was considered "running scared".
Be assured that the one
Be assured that the one making that statement "running scared" has not a clue about what's going on in this campaigning.
jaysea