Paul Campaign Clarifies Medical Marijuana Stance

Many readers have been questioning the accuracy of an Associated Press article I blogged about recently claiming Kentucky GOP Senate candidate Rand Paul, who has defended the rights of states to pass medical marijuana laws, “is opposed to the legalization of marijuana, even for medicinal purposes.”

As a former reporter, I always strive for accuracy, so I just got off the phone with a representative of the Paul campaign in order to clarify the candidate’s position — which isn’t as simple as the AP made it out to be.

“Doctor Paul’s stance has not changed, and that is a case of sloppy reporting,” said Nena Bartlett, Paul’s assistant campaign manager. “His position is that it’s a states’ rights issue.”

However, when I asked Bartlett if Paul personally supports medical marijuana laws, and would, for example, vote for a bill protecting patients from arrest if he were a member of a state legislature, she demurred.

“I’m actually not positive that he’s taken that stance,” Bartlett said. “He just believes it should be left up to the states … I’m not sure if that’s a position he would take at this time. It’s a decision for doctors and patients at the local level.”

So there we have it. Rand Paul believes the federal government should not interfere in state medical marijuana laws. But he does not support such laws himself, at least not at this time. It was therefore inaccurate for the AP to say he “is opposed” to medical marijuana laws. (Though the Paul campaign will not say he’s “in favor” of them either.) I regret having helped to spread that misinformation, and want to apologize to our readers.

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When I first read about this issue it didn't seem possible for a libertarian like Rand Paul to oppose personal liberty. I wish Rand would completely clear this up.

It looks like he opposes federal prohibition laws but NOT all legal marijuana use:

“Doctor Paul’s stance has not changed, and that is a case of sloppy reporting,” said Nena Bartlett, Paul’s assistant campaign manager.

“His position is that it’s a states’ rights issue"

"It’s a decision for doctors and patients at the local level.”

All of the facts we have suggest Rand believes in liberty, states authority over the issue and allowing the legal decision by doctors and patients.

I saw nothing that suggests he opposes :"legalization of marijuana, even for medicinal purposes.”

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As I have finally come to the conclusion there there indeed are NO righteous politicians, and Rand's "flip-flop" on the issue of "medical marijuana" in the State of Kentucky proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is true.

I, personally, though I would not turn away a Medical Marijuana Regulation, would prefer to see Cannabis/HEMP returned to pre-illegalization or RE-Legalization via the MERP Model explained at newagecitizen.org.

That being said, I do not ever remember Gatewood Galbraith "flip-flopping" on this issue. In fact he "makes no apology" for the fact that he, himself uses it for asthma. And to take it a little further, I have never heard him change his mind on any given subject that has been addressed in the campaign thus far.

At least I know who I'm voting for in the Governor's race .....
GATEWOOD GALBRAITH

I was thinking of making a call to Rand Paul myself on this issue, but since it has already been addressed I shall not.
However, I do not readily believe that he would have taken my call anyway, since I am the VP of the US Marijuana Party!

ShereeKrider

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Pragmatic libertarians (minimal-statists) and "true" Conservatives agree that many, if not most, of society's problems are caused by government usurping choices that could better be made by individuals and that government is just about the worst way of doing almost anything. Where libertarianism normally parts company with "fake" conservatism is over moral issues. But a true conservative would have no problem with agreeing, that what people do with their own bodies, and especially in the privacy of their own home, should be supremely their business, and that anything else would entail ignoring the basic tenet of limited government.

Fake-Conservatism on the other hand has much in common with socialism; Both Leftists and Fake-Conservatives appear to harbor the belief that nature does not exist and that any human can be anything he wants to be, or can for the "greater good", be "re-educated" into being. Leftists therefore think little boys can be conditioned into preferring dolls over toy soldiers, and similarly Fake-conservatives believe that adults can be coerced into choosing alcohol over marijuana. A true conservative, just like a pragmatic libertarian, would immediately reject both ideas as nonsense.

Because Drug cartels will always have an endless supply of ready cash for wages, bribery and equipment, no amount of tax money, police powers, weaponry, wishful thinking or pseudo- science will make our streets safe again. Only an end to prohibition can do that! How much longer are we willing to foolishly risk our own survival by continuing to ignore the obvious, historically confirmed solution?

For those of you who are still living in some strange parallel universe, one where prohibition actually works, may I suggest that you return to high school economics class, and learn about supply and DEMAND. Learn that you cannot up DEMAND simply by upping supply. Contrary to popular held superstition, drugs are not PUSHED, the drug dealers are filling a DEMAND not creating one. The DEMAND is here in the US and is impossible to control, but what is possible to control, is the income from that DEMAND. All we have to do is allow legal businesses to meet that DEMAND. Under proper regulation drug use will not rise, as it couldn't get any worse than it is at present.

Debating whether a particular drug is harmless or not is missing the whole point. Is marijuana dangerous? I simply don't care if it is or isn't. If someone wants to destroy their lives with drugs, thats their business, not anybody else's. Their lives aren't ours to direct. We can certainly voice an opposition to drug use… but who are we to imprison people over it? which ultimately we do if we support banning drugs.

Why on earth does anyone think it's acceptable to want to control certain behaviors, such as the bedroom habits or choice of poison of fully grown adults? Isn't it high time we evolved enough to get past this crap? Surely we need to accept, that the only way to truly be free, is that you agree, in return, to allow other people to be free, even if it offends your personal sensibilities. What's more; if it's not directly hurting you and you forbid it, then you can be sure that it will create unforeseen circumstances, which WILL have an adverse affect on YOUR wellbeing! -- Actually, a large proportion of those arising circumstances may not come as such a surprise to those of us who are capable of paying due attention to historical precedent.

If you support prohibition then you've helped trigger the worst crime wave in history.

If you support prohibition you've a helped create a black market with massive incentives to hook both adults and children alike.

If you support prohibition you've helped to make these dangerous substances available in schools and prisons.

If you support prohibition you've helped raise gang warfare to a level not seen since the days of alcohol bootlegging.

If you support prohibition you've helped create the prison-for-profit synergy with drug lords.

If you support prohibition you've helped remove many important civil liberties from those citizens you falsely claim to represent.

If you support prohibition you've helped put previously unknown and contaminated drugs on the streets.

If you support prohibition you've helped to escalate Theft, Muggings and Burglaries.

If you support prohibition you've helped to divert scarce law-enforcement resources away from protecting your fellow citizens from the ever escalating violence against their person or property.

If you support prohibition you've helped overcrowd the courts and prisons, thus making it increasingly impossible to curtail the people who are hurting and terrorizing others.

If you support prohibition you've helped evolve local gangs into transnational enterprises with intricate power structures that reach into every corner of society, controlling vast swaths of territory with significant social and military resources at their disposal.

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No, Rand Fool, it's not a state issue. Drugs are sold in interstate commerce, giving Congress sole authority to regulate drugs. By the power vested in Congress, Congress created the FDA. If the FDA doesn't approve a drug to treat a medical condition, the drug is illegal for that purpose. Not only does the FDA have the power to regulate drugs, by direct authority of the Constitution, by laws enacted by Congress, that power has been tested in Supreme Court cases that unconditionally establish Federal law preempts state law as far as the FDA is concerned.

So, for all the dopers out there, not only is Rand Fool not on your side - waffle city, guys - he doesn't have a clue about the Constitution or how it works.

Now, if you love his daddy, Ron Fool, there might be a reason for it. Ron Fool has come down with both feet in favor of pot, cocaine and heroin for everyone. Deregulate everything. No more checks and balances on the too big to fail. No more Constitution regarding inhibiting monopoly power of corporate America. It's ally, ally outs in free. Anarchy will reign, but everyone will be too stoned to realize it when they are being robbed blind.

Insanity and incompetence seems to run in the family.

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Don Earl,
You sir represent the big government Constitution twisting voices that got our country in the mess it is in. I bet you love the so called “patriot act” too and think it is Constitutionally correct. When alcohol was prohibited that required an amendment to the Constitution because the federal government knew it didn’t have the authority to regulate the drug alcohol. There has been no amendment for marijuana or any other unconstitutional and ILLEGAL federal drug prohibition.

What does growing and consuming marijuana on your own property have to do with interstate commerce?

The drug war has done more harm to our Country and our Constitutional values than any other policy in our history since slavery. The Constitutional right to freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, to keep and bear arms, to be secure in your person, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure, to life, liberty and property, to be protected from having your property taken by the government without due process of law and without just compensation, to confront the witnesses against you, to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment, to vote and others have been unjustly denied to millions of Americans in the name of the drug war.

Just keep guzzling that drug war Kool-Aid. The big unconstitutional federal government crowd love fat blind sheep.

It amazes me that some people still believe the drug war is promoting prohibition because they are trying to keep us and especially our children safe. They are lying to you!!!
http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/90295 /
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/basicfax11.htm

ALL MAJOR AUTHORITIES AGREE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DRUG-RELATED VIOLENT CRIME IS CAUSED BY THE PROHIBITION AGAINST DRUGS, RATHER THAN THE DRUGS THEMSELVES. THIS WAS THE SAME DURING ALCOHOL PROHIBITION. ALCOHOL PROHIBITION GAVE RISE TO A VIOLENT CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DRUG PROHIBITION HAS. THESE “CRIMES” SHOULD MORE ACCURATELY BE DESCRIBED AS “PROHIBITION RELATED”, RATHER THAN “DRUG RELATED”.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD OF ALCOHOL DEALERS GETTING INTO A SHOOTOUT?... I BET IT WAS WHEN ALCOHOL WAS PROHIBITED!

THE YEAR ALCOHOL PROHIBITION WAS REPEALED VIOLENT CRIME FELL BY 65%.

NO ONE, OF ANY AGE, IN ALL OF RECORDED HISTORY, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, HAS EVER DIED FROM THE INGREDIENTS IN MARIJUANA... MANY HAVE DIED FROM ITS PROHIBITION.

BECAUSE OF DRUG PROHIBITION HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF TAX FREE DOLLARS FLOW INTO THE POCKETS OF CRIMINALS, GANGSTERS AND TERRORISTS EVERY YEAR.

EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE DRUG WAR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc

The federal government has turned into an unlawful and unconstitutional gang of thugs. They rule by intimidation and irrational, untruthful, fear mongering and threats rather than Constitutional law.

Ron Paul and Rand Paul represent a strong movement back to the rule of law and away from tyranny. Wake up and learn the truth before you start calling others a fool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

All your comment does is shine a bright light on your ignorance of the Constitution and your willingness to be ruled by and even support unconstitutional federal lawlessness.

RAND PAUL IN 2010 AND RON PAUL IN 2012!

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RE: "I bet you love the so called “patriot act”"

Nope.

RE: "What does growing and consuming marijuana on your own property have to do with interstate commerce?"

Marijuana isn't grown and consumed on your own property.

RE: "The drug war has done more harm to our Country and our Constitutional values than any other policy in our history since slavery."

There is no drug war. If there was, drug trafficking would have been stopped dead in its tracks long ago. The trade couldn't possibly exist except as part of a government program.

RE: "The big unconstitutional federal government crowd love fat blind sheep."

Indeed it does. You won't see drug addicts on the streets protesting. They're too stoned to give a rip about anything beyond their next high. You'd have a hard time even finding one that is registered to vote.

RE: "ALL MAJOR AUTHORITIES AGREE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DRUG-RELATED VIOLENT CRIME IS CAUSED BY THE PROHIBITION AGAINST DRUGS"

Have you ever seen a drug addict murder a family on the highway because he was too stoned to drive? A rather violent way to go. Then, of course, you have the addicts robbing dispensaries in CA.

RE: "WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD OF ALCOHOL DEALERS GETTING INTO A SHOOTOUT?"

It happens all the time, same with as the dispensaries mentioned above.

RE: "The federal government has turned into an unlawful and unconstitutional gang of thugs."

If you ever wake up from your dope dreams, you will find it has always been that way. It never "turned".

RE: "Ron Paul and Rand Paul represent a strong movement back to the rule of law and away from tyranny."

Paul has his tray as loaded as the rest at the all you can eat Congressional pork banquet. He pays lip service to many things and does nothing. All blow and no go except when it comes to taking the leash off corporate America so it will finally be able to reach the bottom of your pocket.

RE: "All your comment does is shine a bright light on your ignorance of the Constitution and your willingness to be ruled by and even support unconstitutional federal lawlessness."

Funny you should say so, I was thinking the same thing about you. The last poll I saw, Congress has a 10% approval rating. As amazing as it may seem to you, under the Constitution, we the people put congressment in office. You see, those you vote for are supposed to represent you when they vote on the various issues, which they have the authority to vote for under the Constitution. If you want things to be different, assuming you're registered to vote, you will need to stop voting for Republicans and Democrats. They're two sides of the same coin. Heads they win, tails you lose. As an incumbent Republican, Paul needs to be swept out with the rest of the pork sucking trash.

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RE: "Nice rant"

Thanks, I take pride in posting FACTS!

RE: "Nope."

Why not? You seem to support a lot of other unconstitutional garbage, like federal drug prohibition.

RE: "Marijuana isn't grown and consumed on your own property."

I beg to differ sir, MOST arrests for marijuana cultivation occur on private property, not while crossing state lines.

RE: "There is no drug war. If there was, drug trafficking would have been stopped dead in its tracks long ago. The trade couldn't possibly exist except as part of a government program."

Glad to see you caught on about the government involvement in illegal drug trafficking. Please Google Mena Arkansas, the Iran Contra Affair, Freeway Ricky Ross, Oliver North (that should be enough for starters) if anyone doubts the government is playing both sides of the drug war.

The people that have been killed and taken prisoner and had their Constitutional rights and property taken would no doubt differ with you about the existence of an illegal war against our own citizens, AKA “the drug war”. In case you missed it Richard Nixon started this “drug war” and named it. He even won an election as president based on it. It is our longest continuous war. Tax payers dish out about 69 billion dollars per year to pay for it and like every other illegal unconstitutional war started by a president, it is a complete failure. In 1914 when all drugs were legal in the US, 1.3% of the US population was addicted to drugs. Despite over 1 trillion tax dollars being wasted, millions of Americans being arrested, ever increasing harshness of penalties and all the other harms that have resulted from our failed drug war prohibition policy, today 1.3% of our population is still addicted to drugs. THAT’S 0% IMPROVEMENT.

Right now we are installing 900 new prison beds and hiring 150 new correction officers every 2 weeks. Here in the “land of the free” for the first time in history, more than one of every 100 adults is in jail or prison. 2,319,258 Americans were incarcerated at the start of 2008. The United States now incarcerates more people than any other nation on earth, far more than even much more populous communist China. Each prisoner costs the taxpayers an average of about $35,000.00 to $40,000.00 per year to incarcerate. Over half of our federal prisoners are serving time for a drug offense. Largely because of the drug war, arresting nonviolent Americans that have harmed no one has become big business.

The drug war is a real war and it is an unnecessarily harmful, completely unwinnable, and wasteful war. It is in fact a war against a certain large percentage of our own population that chooses to different degrees and with a wide range or results, to put a wide variety of different substances in their own bodies and for a wide variety of reasons. It’s being fought in our communities with real guns , military styled raids against nonviolent citizens, teargas, dogs and virtually every other tool of war available.

RE: "Indeed it does. You won't see drug addicts on the streets protesting. They're too stoned to give a rip about anything beyond their next high. You'd have a hard time even finding one that is registered to vote."

Then maybe you can explain how 14 states and Washington DC have passed medical marijuana laws by popular demand and many have decriminalized and how the thousands of signatures required to get proposition 19 on the CA ballot this year were gathered. Your tired old “lazy stoner” argument has been debunked long ago. Most drug users, the vast majority in fact, are occasional users that work jobs, raise families and lead perfectly normal lives.

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Several druggies were trying to get a marijuana initiative on the ballot in WA this year. They needed a couple hundred thousand signatures, and last I heard, collected less than one hundred thousand. The bar to entry to get an initiative on the ballot in WA is higher than some places, but not impossibly so. Without double checking, it's something like 1-2% of the votes cast in the most recent governor's race .

That says everything that needs to be said about marijuana's ability to sap the political will of those addicted to the drug. There's no need for the state to use force to make a slave out of a man if he's willing to make himself a slave through habitual drug use.

I won't bother reading the rest of what you wrote, except to say the issue is very simple as far as I'm concerned. The vast majority of possession arrests are the direct result of traffic stops. I do not want to share the road with people who are too stoned to drive safely. The easier it is to arrest them, and the harsher the punishments for their suppliers, the better I like it. Every drug addict the police take off the streets means one less drug addict to put me in harm's way.

Tell me a joke. Tell me you have never gotten behind the wheel of a car when you knew full well your driving skills were impaired.

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RE: Too stoned to care
There are many different kinds of stoned, your frail reply is an easy target, so brace up.

RE” “Several druggies were trying to get a marijuana initiative on the ballot in WA this year. They needed a couple hundred thousand signatures, and last I heard, collected less than one hundred thousand. The bar to entry to get an initiative on the ballot in WA is higher than some places, but not impossibly so. Without double checking, it's something like 1-2% of the votes cast in the most recent governor's race .

That says everything that needs to be said about marijuana's ability to sap the political will of those addicted to the drug. There's no need for the state to use force to make a slave out of a man if he's willing to make himself a slave through habitual drug use.”

I noticed you ignored the references I posted citing the many successes of the popular movement toward legalizing marijuana. Some states are tougher than others but facts are facts and roughly 25% of the states have already legalized medical marijuana and many have also decriminalized recreational use to some degree. You have to take into consideration that many marijuana consumers are much more comfortable not putting their name on a legalize marijuana petition. Many I have talked to say they get an adequate supply provided by the black market and although most would rather support a legitimate business person, what is their incentive to add extra, possibly needless or foolish, risk to their kids, freedom, job, property and maybe even their lives or the lives of their families, especially in a state where they don’t see large numbers of supporters.

Your feeble reply makes no sound case proving marijuana is sapping their political will. Marijuana consumers have been demonized wrongfully for decades. It’s much easier for them to just stay under the radar in unfriendly states. As far as addiction goes, do some research, marijuana is one of the least addictive drugs known. Accept it, it’s a fact, research it if you doubt me. All the hoopla about high numbers of marijuana consumers going to rehab is a joke. The vast majority got busted for small amounts and were given a choice of jail or rehab.

Just because a person chooses to use a drug that for whatever reason adds benefits or pleasure to their life, that certainly doesn’t make them a slave any more than eating food or drinking water does. It has been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that marijuana is SAFER than many foods we commonly consume. As much as you seem to respect the Constitution I would think you would respect a person’s right to do whatever they choose as long at it doesn’t hurt anyone else and ESPECIALLY in the privacy of their own home.

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RE: “I won't bother reading the rest of what you wrote, except to say the issue is very simple as far as I'm concerned. The vast majority of possession arrests are the direct result of traffic stops. I do not want to share the road with people who are too stoned to drive safely. The easier it is to arrest them, and the harsher the punishments for their suppliers, the better I like it. Every drug addict the police take off the streets means one less drug addict to put me in harm's way.”

Your logic is so full of holes I hardly know where to begin. I have no doubt you read every word I wrote and rather than further expose your weak argument you sheepishly choose to ignore the strong factual points I made. I assure you many people will read what we both say here and your response is very typical of a pro-drug war prohibitionist when they run into someone that has taken the time to research the facts. You can’t defend an indefensible position. Your attempt to discredit my comments by pretending to ignore the strength of my position, proves to all readers just how weak the pro-drug war argument really is. As soon as the cute but tired lies and “stoner” clichés are hit by the light of facts, they melt away like ice in Arizona at noon on July 4th.

Your driving comments are easy targets. I already agreed that no one is in favor of anyone driving when they are too impaired to do so safely and pointed out that the laws against that are just but you haven’t explained how unconstitutional prohibition has had any effect on that at all. In fact prohibition sharply contributes to drivers under the influence because rather than being able to grow their own marijuana and consume it at home most people have to drive to go get their marijuana. I suppose I should point out that several studies have shown that the vast majority of marijuana consumers are no more dangerous on the road that drivers under the influence of nothing at all. Push your jaw back up, it’s a fact.

The studies I read said almost the same as many traffic officers I have interviewed about marijuana and driving. Unlike alcohol, marijuana does not bring on reckless or aggressive behavior. Marijuana users have no problem driving in a straight line and observing adequate safety. The professionals say this is because even though marijuana consumers are mildly impaired, they are well aware of their impairment and adequately compensate by slowing down and being more cautious. The officers I interviewed all said except for the smell of marijuana or looking for drivers that were being a little too cautious, it was impossible to distinguish marijuana using drivers from drivers that were under the influence of nothing at all.

There is an estimated 113 billion dollars worth of marijuana consumed in the US every year. If driving under the influence of marijuana was a significant danger it would have shown up long ago. Someone is arrested on marijuana charges every 37 seconds in the US, please explain how this is reducing use or driving under the influence, not that driving under the influence poses any significant risk for most consumers.

Do you really think after someone gets arrested that stops them from ever using again and therefore “takes them off the road”, they are usually back on the road in a matter of a couple of hours, many states just write them a ticket and they drive away. It is virtually impossible to ingest enough marijuana to make the average experienced marijuana consumer dangerous while driving or operating dangerous machinery. Dangerous driving due to marijuana use is just another myth promoted by those that profit from marijuana prohibition and so is your contention that prohibition, arrest and harsh penalties take them off the roads.

If a person is truly dangerous like they often are when they drink too much alcohol, yes they will get harsh penalties and rightly may lose their driving privileges permanently but when was the last time you heard of a person using only marijuana driving recklessly?

Marijuana should come with a warning like you see on many Rx drugs. “don’t drive or operate dangerous machinery until you determine how this drug effects you”. I recently rode with a friend that had surgery and was on Rx morphine… MORPHINE!... and that was the warning on his Rx bottle.

You sound as if you know very little about the actual effects of marijuana. I don’t mean that as an insult. I respect your choice if you choose to use no drugs or whatever drugs you like, as long as you don’t endanger anyone else. Just do some research before you buy into all the hype, misinformation and drug war propaganda. You can use marijuana to huge excess and still not be dangerous. If you doubt that watch this video, this man smokes and drives all the time and has for over 26 years. He gets his pot from the federal government and your taxes pay for it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzX8aNwxgM

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