Parents Get Jail for Relying on Prayer in Daughter's Death

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The Wisconsin parents who relied on prayer instead of seeking medical attention for their dying daughter have received six months in jail and 10 years probation. Dale and Leilani Neumann were convicted in separate trials of second degree homicide. They could have received up to 25 years in prison.

Kara Neumann, 11, died in March 2008 surrounded by a prayer group at her family's home in rural Weston in central Wisconsin. It was later determined she had an undiagnosed, but treatable, form of diabetes. Her parents said at their trials that they believed healing came from God, and that they never expected Kara to die.

But prosecutors countered that the Neumanns recklessly killed their youngest of four children by ignoring obvious symptoms of severe illness as she became too weak to speak, eat, drink or walk. They said the couple had a legal duty to take their daughter to a doctor but relied totally on prayer for healing.

In handing down the sentence, Marathon county circuit court Judge Vincent Howard told the Neumanns they were "very good people, raising their family, who made a bad decision, a reckless decision. God probably works through other people," he told the parents, "some of them doctors."

Howard's sentence is actually quite unique. Instead of serving the six months all at once, Howard ordered them to serve one month per year for six years, so they could "think about Kara and what God wants you to learn from this." Since they still have three children, one parent would serve the term in March and the other in September.

Howard quickly stayed the jail sentence while the Neumanns appeal their convictions.

But the probation goes into effect right away. That includes having their surviving children undergo regular and random health checks until they reach the age of 18, and seeking medical attention if their children become seriously ill or injured.

At the sentencing, Leilani Neumann told the judge that she doesn't think they've been treated properly, but didn't go into details. "We feared showing remorse for the prosecution taking it wrong," she said.

Read more on OpposingViews.com: Was Father's Conviction in "Death by Prayer" Case Just?

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LordStDennis's picture

Ok, so the child died. She is now out of pain and doesn't have to get regular shots in her belly for the rest of her life. Is that so bad?

Sometimes, God drops people. You never know when your number is up so it is vital to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior if you want to live in the other world known as Heaven.

The Judge was wrong in his decision because people come and go in this world every day. When the body dies , you're still alive because it is your soul that inhabits the body. And you don't need a body to live.

So, with that in mind, the parents should appeal the decision.

Lord Saint Dennis

mcsblues's picture

... until the parents wilful neglect brought her to that state ( diabetes is an easily treated condition, with appropriate care she should have had a long, happy, productive life).

So the parents murdered their child, just as surely as if they had withheld food , water ... or air.

The most primary of all rights we expect in a free society is that especially those who can't care for themselves are protected from harm (which clearly includes the provision of basic care needs), and when that right is abused, those responsible should be brought to justice to account for their actions.

The only difference between these parents and those that abuse their children physically or sexually is their pitiful excuse.

Clearly their sentence is woefully inadequate (and I hope it will be appealed) . The only person who needs a regular month or two in prison to give him time to reflect on his actions ... is the judge.

Aaron's picture

As in other 'faith-only' treatments rather than
faith-plus-medical-care cases, the daughter's
outcome was unfairly and unwisely limited by the faith-only approach to her illness. Even
major mostly-faith believers are allowed to re-
set broken limbs, provide other lifesaving trea
tments as they believe that The Deity has allow
ed mortals to learn helpful interventions and
expects them to follow, "God helps them who hel
p themselves" in appropriate cases...The parent
s shudda allowed the treatment of their daughte
r's diabetes [and observed recommended ongoing
disease-management] as well as prayed..Aaron..

Stan101's picture

We are rightly outraged when a small number of parents deny medical care for their children and rely only upon prayer , and the child still dies .

Millions more Christians and theists have relied upon prayer AND medical care for sick children and adults, and they still died. But, those deaths have rarely if ever shaked their faith in prayer.

If they lived, it was god 's intervention. They were blessed. If they died, it was god's will. It's a win-win for the gods. Where is that P.T.Barnum quote when you need it?

jaker277's picture

Awesomejuice.

truthseeker1's picture

It sounds like a good defense for when I can't pay for mandatory health insurance . I can always claim I don't believe in the medical and insurance industries. I'll pray and see what happens.

thebigpicture's picture

When did we give rights concerning our children 's well-being into the hands of government ?

If Congress has made “no law respecting an establishment of religion , or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;” how can any court of law determine that a death was not the will of God? Is that not a proclamation that faith and thus God is irrational? According to the First Amendment is that not enforcing a law agains religion?

It’s like the court is saying – put your faith in medicine rather than in God or suffer the severity of legal consequences.

I am an atheist, and I am a lesbian and, like most homosexuals in this country, I struggle against those who would oppress my kind and deny the freedoms meant for us all.

That would not stop me from joining with any believer in as great a struggle against tyranny itself. The non-belief of an atheist is not a reason to suppress the religious rights granted to people of this country. The homosexual community struggles against the lies that suggest we are not worthy to raise children in a same-sex household, or to teach other children, or go to church with them and much more. So what makes it right for us to tell believers that their belief makes them just as incompetent as parents as they say we are?

We cannot have it both ways. There is a vast difference between outright abuse and neglect and the often painful decisions surrounding the medical treatment of children.

I believe that every adult has the RIGHT to seek alternative health care treatments for themselves and their family, and I consider the use of faith as just another alternative treatment. If I deny this right to people of faith I would be discriminating against them by denying their First Amendment rights, just as rights have been denied to the LGBT community.

I am outraged that courts of law can dictate to loving and attentive parents what medical treatments they must abide by for their own children. The homosexual community are quick to blame the ‘religious right’ for our discriminatory woes but it is not the people of faith who have denied us our rights – it is the government that has stripped them from us by denying our equality under the greatest social contract in history. Our fate was given into the hands of the same courts that also deny the religious faction their rights to decide what medical treatment their own children are ‘required’ to undergo.

Perhaps some would say it is fitting that those of faith should finally feel the uneven hand of justice. If the courts can rule that a person’s faith gives them the right to deny legal medical procedures to certain groups of people (i.e. abortion , in vitro fertilization, sex -reassignment procedures...etc.) then that person’s faith should be of no less value in determining what medical treatment their children should have.

The point is we fight amongst ourselves, for rights the government has taken away. WAKE UP AMERICA. When court systems allow religious values to be discriminatory (under the guise of majority rule) and the same courts are allowed to side-step the Bill of Rights to override the same religious values—who can say the scales of justice are not in balance—because no one is guaranteed what our social contract calls inalienable rights.

The wrong done to others is no excuse for allowing wrong to be returned. We must allow believers their conscientious objection, when applied to themselves, and the free exercise of their faith. In return they must concede that the law of the land is equality and individuals have the right to choose abortion, gay marriage , same sex parenting and so on. We must return the court system to being upholders of the law while returning our family decisions to the family and the rights of an individual to the self.

creoledap's picture

"thebigpicture" is who she/he claims to be. I'll just stop there, because that is all this "argument" deserves.

State of Reason's picture

You ask "When did we give rights concerning our children 's well-being into the hands of government ?"
That's always been the case. In fact everyone's well being is in the hands of the government in some way. If you were being beaten and raped for being a lesbian would you refuse help from the police (government)? If your house was burning down would you refuse help from the fire dept (government)? If Canada was attacking would you refuse help from the military (government)? That's what government does. That's the major point of government, protecting our rights to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. In this case, Life.

Nobody is suggesting laws restricting faith or religion , only protecting children from harm. If your religion harms a child then government has to intervene because who else can protect the child?

This isn't about restricting alternative treatment. This is about forcing them to use SOME treatment. If the parents had shown that they were doing something, seeking some treatment then I'd be more open about this.

I'm perfectly comfortable with majority ruling on this when the majority is saying you have to take care of your child.

Submariner's picture

If this is a real, sincere post, I should be quite amazed at the near infinite asynchronous ideology of it.

'We the people' (aka the Federal Government of the United States of America) are protecting children here, nothing more or less.

So many people act like all the government employees are grown in evil tainted test tubes in some secret military base. We are the freaking people!

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