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Islamic Preacher Fayhan al-Ghamdi Receives Light Sentence After Torturing, Raping Daughter Lama al-Ghamdi
Lama al-Ghamdi, 5, died this past October from injuries relating to a crushed skull, broken ribs, a broken arm, a broken back and severe burns. On top of being brutally beaten, medical reports say that Lama had also been raped repeatedly.
Lama was killed by her father, prominent Islamic preacher Fayhan al-Ghamdi, who served only three months in prison and was released after paying $50,000 as ‘blood money.’
This story comes only weeks after the Saudi Arabian execution of a maid named Rizana Nafeek, who was tortured into admitting she caused the death of her employers’ infant son, Kayed bin Nayef bin Jazyan al-Otaibi.
The activist group Women to Drive reports that the judge overseeing this case felt al-Ghamdi’s short stint in prison was punishment enough, in addition to the payment, which supposedly went to Lama’s mother. The group contends that the fine would have been doubled if Lama had been a boy.
Then again, she’d probably still be alive if that had been the case.
Activists also say that fathers cannot be executed for murdering his children or his wife (or wives) under Islamic law.
Manal al-Sharif, one of the Saudi activists who started the Women to Drive campaign, initiated a hashtag on Twitter to bring awareness to the plight of abused women and children in Saudi Arabia. The hastag #analama is translated to mean “I am Lama” and is encouraging social media users to become aware of and active against acts such as this.
Discontent in Saudi Arabia is growing around the unfair treatment of its citizens, which will undoubtedly be amplified by worldwide social media involvement in the cause. Authorities have announced plans to open a 24-hour hotline for victims to report abuse.
(CNN)
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you're islamophobic people!!!
you're islamophobic people!!! He just followed the path of his prophet muhammad!! It's in the holy book that you can to do such things (Aisha - 13yo muhammad's wife - raped multiple times). Release him, release him in the name of quran
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Wow, that is just so fucked
Wow, that is just so fucked up. Under Islamic Law they can't be executed for doing that, he should be executed. All murderers and rapists should be killed. That simple.
> The group contends that the
> The group contends that the fine would have been doubled if Lama had been a boy.
The father probably would be denying the rape and proud of the killing if Lama had been a boy, since they don't allow gays to remain alive in those countries.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even if Sharia is lenient when Muslim men murder or rape non-Muslims or women, doesn't the Koran admit that this is not always ideal behavior? If that is the case, then is Islam-bashing really justified?
If you want to help women &
If you want to help women & children around the world who are still victimized like property by their government's laws then join in with some of the social network crusades. Social networks like Facebook & Twitter are helping victims expose their stories to a worldwide audience, who in turn are using the Net to embarrass these governments and put pressure on our own government officials to invoke sanctions. Like the printing press, the Internet is a tool for educationing & changing public opinion. Internet users are becoming more aware of its power to promote social justice & expose corruption around the world.
According to the Huffington Post article on this story "The social media campaign gaining momentum Sunday is the latest attempt to use the Internet to pressure the (Saudia Arabian) kingdom's ultraconservative rulers." These internet campaigns turn the spotlight of the world media on the primitive barbarism that still goes on within a country whose rulers are trying to earn respect internationally. Foreign corporations who know the value of their public image are re-thinking investing in a country where the raping of children is legally sanctioned. 85 %of Saudi companies are staffed by foreigners, because of the limits in education available to Saudi citizens, so the need to continue attracting foreigner workers to Saudi is essential to their internal economy (Saudi citizens can't eat oil). There are few world leaders or industrialists in this world today who want it publically broadcast that they are collaborating with an evil empire to suppress, abuse & pervert justice of it's people. We began seeing the Net's global youth influence with "Occupy Wall Street" which united college students around the world and in the middle-eastern revolts in Lebanon & Syria. Discontentment stirred & shared through social media sites is inspiring revolutions. It can inspire goals & ideals as well.
Here it’s filthy ‘men of the
Here it’s filthy ‘men of the cloth’ beating and pawing little boys, there’s it’s monsters torturing and raping young girls and women because they “doubt their virginity”, for goodness sake.
And all of them, Christian and Muslim alike, have superiors prepared to sweep it under the carpet and allow 'business as usual' to continue.
Pure evil, all of it.
Ditto!!
Ditto!!
This man should be hanging
This man should be hanging from the nearest tree.....
jmcv02
"Activists also say that
"Activists also say that fathers cannot be executed for murdering his children or his wife (or wives) under Islamic law."
Under British law, too. Probably several other countries in Europe.
Sorry, but that is NOT true
Sorry, but that is NOT true under British law, where on earth did you get that impression?
So Britain DOES have the
So Britain DOES have the death penalty?
No. But the non-availability
No. But the non-availability of the death penalty for murder is (unlike the Islamic law cited) regardless of whom the murder victim was (unless it happened to be the monarch, in which case the charge would be high treason.)
What double talk. The point
What double talk. The point is that under Islamic law, the guy skates. In England, Islamic law is supposed to be trumped by English law, but go tell Islamic nationals this. This is one of the issues for the war in the first place. This is where the Islamic army comes from, along with 'occupied' land and Muslim 'waters'.
@ Joe Six-Pack "What double
@ Joe Six-Pack
"What double talk."
Are you addressing that comment to my own explanation that, whereas Islamic law allegedly has, from the foundation of Islam, precluded the death penalty for a father who murders his child (of which allegation I am sceptical), English law does NOT do this, but that English Law DOES preclude the death penalty for ANY murderer whatsoever, at this present point in England's history?
I am not aware of Islam being a nationality, having an army, or occupying land, or owning waters. I don't actually understand your posting.
Sorry, I was referring to how
Sorry, I was referring to how Muslims talk in circles. Lots of death penalties in Islam. Life was cheap in the 7th century. Islam allows for killing in many situations. Women are like property.
Islam IS fielding an army today. These are the Islamic terrorist groups who are attempting to install Islamic law. The "occupation" is ANY land that was once controlled by Islam and has reverted to anything else. Israel is singled out mainly because it is so close to the epic-center of Islam, Mecca and Medina. It always will be until all that land is Muslim controlled once again.
Many people may not think that many Muslims want these terrorist groups to win, but just look at the support that they get world wide. And I am not referring to state sponsored support.
The main point I was attempting to make is that Islamic law trumps ANY and ALL modern legal systems. Don't think so? Just attempt to enter a mosque and make an arrest. Mosques are embassies of Islam. It is the 'land' of the sovereign government of Islam. This is Islamic law. And you don't argue with it. They will kill you.
Joe Six-Pack - Feb 9 2013 -
Joe Six-Pack - Feb 9 2013 - 7:41am "...Islam IS fielding an army today. These are the Islamic terrorist groups who are attempting to install Islamic law..."
So it's the entire religion, not the extremist groups themselves raising the "army".
"...Mosques are embassies of Islam..."
Is Islam a sovereign nation, now? I suppose Catholic churches are embassies of The Vatican?
@ Joe Six-Pack "The main
@ Joe Six-Pack
"The main point I was attempting to make is that Islamic law trumps ANY and ALL modern legal systems."
Islamic law is (in a sense) an ideology that some people will consider "trumps" any *local* legal system, which includes local in place, and local in time (i.e. modern). They will think that Islamic law is "right", and that it *should* influence local legal systems, and perhaps even to replace them, or to prevail when Islamic law conflicts with local law.
However, Islamic law is only one of several such ideologies.
Another example, is that certain people believe that elective abortion is wrong. They believe that jurisdictions that allow abortion *should* legislate to criminalise it.
Others think (and even teach) that sodomy is a fundamental human right. They therefore think that nations that have laws restricting the freedom to perform acts of sodomy (such as the UK, arguably) *should* change their laws. And the UK itself, which only recently decriminalised sodomy in certain limited circumstances, is willing to cause hardship to some of the poorest children on the planet, by withholding inter-governmental aid from poor countries whose governments have not yet themselves decriminalised sodomy even in the particular circumstances in which the UK nowadays allows sodomy.
Some people think that certain acts deserve a death penalty. The acts concerned might not even be criminal offences (e.g. witchcraft in Papua New Guinea), because the ideologues' opinion differs from that of the authorities. In such cases, the ideologically motivated sometimes murder suspects. They do this because they are dissatisfied with the leniency that they anticipate the authorities will show towards towards those who offend against the unofficial laws of their ideology.
In former times, in Europe, the papacy, which published Canon Law, had similar aspirations. Wars were fought when popes and kings differed as to what the laws should be.
In former times, international socialists, motivated by an atheistic ideology just as totalitarian as Islamic Law, preached worldwide revolution, and set out to subvert liberal democracy.
And so on.
So, my point is to agree strongly with your main point, but then to point out that Islamic law is far from being, or having been, the only internationally espoused ideology with claims to be above local (and modern) legal systems ethically, and to have followers who take, or took, the law into their own hands.
You are correct. What is
You are correct. What is different about Islam is that the political system has been installed since the beginning. It is embedded. No separation between church and state. The Catholic Church stopped fielding armies more than 400 years ago. Mainly because it conflicted with so much of its teachings, and governance was not part of the religion. Islamic law has 1400 years of jurisprudence. The 'army' of Islam is being fielded just like armies used to be in the 7th century. The modern nation state had more than 1000 years to evolve yet. The professional army (Exception: Roman army) did not appear until that time.
The point is that Islam was designed as a national government wrapped around a religion long before governments evolved. This is why the Imams have the authority to field their own combat units, just like they needed to back in the 7th century. Islam has not evolved past this for several reasons. In any case, many people today believe in many aspects of the government of Islamic law and this legal system is at war against us and the rest of the modern world.
"Discontent in Saudi Arabia
"Discontent in Saudi Arabia is growing around the unfair treatment of its citizens"
Islamic law 'Unfair'? No kidding!!
Islamic "law" is retarded as
Islamic "law" is retarded as hell. Dumb-ass Muslim bastards.
"The activist group Women to
"The activist group Women to Drive reports that the judge overseeing this case felt al-Ghamdi’s short stint in prison was punishment enough"
I'd like to know the source for this claim. Everything I've read says they believe the opposite to be true.
One has to wonder how the international community, especially the US, would react to such treatment of women if Saudi Arabia had no oil.
I think you're misreading the
I think you're misreading the sentence. The judge felt three months was enough, not the activist group.
@didact I did - thank you :)
@didact
I did - thank you :)
Before they had any oil we
Before they had any oil we wanted or needed, we ignored them, as they did us.