Opposing Views: Miss CA and Perez Hilton Show Why America is in Trouble

Miss CA and Perez Hilton Show Why America is in Trouble

We are in deep trouble in this country, and I don't mean that as hyperbole; I mean it literally. It's one thing for traditional Americans to have to pander to the Left by pretending to think differently than they do, and quite another to choose not to pretend -- only to be condemned for being honest.

That's precisely what happened to Carrie Prejean, runner up in the recent Miss USA competition, who had the audacity to say on national television that marriage should be reserved for men and women. Forget our forefathers; I'd love to hear what people from the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s would say about this debacle.

Here is a just a sampling of Perez Hilton's (the judge who asked the question about whether Ms. Prejean thinks the rest of America should follow in Vermont's footsteps by allowing same-sex marriage) comments:

"She gave THE WORST answer in pageant history."

"I would expected Miss CA to be prepared for the question."

"Miss CA was not the perfect Miss USA."

In an interview this morning, Matt Lauer asks Hilton what he, as a judge for the Miss USA pageant (I can't imagine what the qualifications are for such a position), is looking for from the contestants. "Do you want somebody who stands by her beliefs, or do you want someone who panders to judges?" asks Lauer. To which Perez answers, "Miss USA is somebody who should give the right answers."

And there you have it: the right answers. Now you need to pick up a copy of Tammy Bruce's The New Thought Police, if you haven't already -- and you'll learn what's behind this entire thing. Political correctness is an insidious form of thought control. It means publicly insisting something is true when you know in your heart it isn't. It means saying things you don't mean so people will like you.

Such is the mark of any good liberal. Modern liberals have been taught to believe that making value judgments -- not personal judgments, as in "I hate you because you're black or green or purple" -- but value judgments about what's best for society, is off limits. So Americans keep their mouths shut. They say very little about what they really think for fear of censure.

Then along comes this beautiful breath of fresh air in one Ms. Carrie Prejean, who's no doubt unhappy about her loss. Though she'll never know whether her politically incorrect answer cost her the crown, she has her suspicions. Lest she have her doubts, she has Perez Hilton to assure her that it's indeed because of her answer that she lost.

But her response to Matt Lauer when asked about the experience? "I knew I was not going to win because I had spoken from my heart. I was true to myself. I don't take back what I said." How wonderful to know such people still exist.

As for Perez Hilton, here's what he has to say about Carrie Prejean: "She's a dumb bitch."

I am not a pessimistic person by nature, but this one may just change that about me.

Regarding Opinion

You raise an interesting question.

"Forget our forefathers; I'd love to hear what people from the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s would say about this debacle."

Yeah, I wonder what they'd say about "whites" and "colored" sharing a single bathroom in the 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's.

I'd love to hear what they'd say, because it is OH so relevant to the discussion. What is important is making the distinction here between what is discriminatory and what is just MY opinion.

The question wasn't about her views on same sex marriage as a matter of preference, it was about whether other states should follow suit and legalize it. There is a significant difference between religious marriage and marriage in the eyes of government. Whether same sex marriage is legal or not, you don't have to recognize it in your house of worship or in your own mind. What it does mean is that people are given equal rights in the eyes of the law.

This isn't some rant from "the Left," as if "the Left" is some parasite on society . There is nothing wrong with a segment of society requesting their fair share of rights of property, estate and taxes . This isn't about being politically correct. The "right" answer could've been:

"I was raised that it wasn't right, so I wouldn't recognize it in my religion but as a matter of policy in this country, no one should be denied the right to choose who they want to marry."

That's not a politically correct answer necessarily. She could state her preference for herself, but her preference should not dictate other people's capacity for choice.

- iggyboo5 April 22, 2009 7:47AM

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- She did great handling a set-up.
  
  "She could state her preference for herself, but her preference should not dictate other people's capacity for choice."
  
  Isn't that what the judge was asking? Wasn't he asking if she thinks other people should accept the same? If she is against same sex marriage on a matter of principle then why would she advocate it for anyone else? She shouldn't and didn't.
  
  There are literally hundreds of different ways that legalizing gay marriage or not will affect peoples lives. The place where those opinions should count against a person's character is no-where. Such a place doesn't exist I'm proud of Carrie for her backbone. Way to stand up for what you believe.
  
  And whether you believe in gay marriage or not calling a contestant a "dumb bitch," to quote Perez Hilton, is not acceptable in any way shape or form.
  
  - ecuadmail April 22, 2009 6:47PM
  
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  - Agreed.
    
    "Dumb Bitch" is inappropriate. I also do not take issue with her saying what she believes and standing by it, but again, the question was about policy. And since it is a question regarding the law, her religious beliefs do not and should not dictate policy. If someone has a good reason, besides God, why our fellow American's who choose to or are born to love people of the same sex should not be allowed to marry, please speak up.
    
    - iggyboo5 April 22, 2009 7:25PM
    
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    - 2 Dilemmas we find now
      
      Shouldn't your religious belief affect every one of your opinions though? Are we only religious on Sundays and not when we go to the polls? Should it be that way? I personally don't think so. It just creates hypocrisy to "believe" something that doesn't affect your actions.
      
      And as for whether they're born gay or not that's another debate. One I think influenced heavily by the fact that children raised in homosexual households are more likely to be homosexual than other kids . Does it show that they're more open and less bigoted? Or does it just show that a large chunk of whether or not you're gay is socially based? I think the latter. But that's me.
      
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Our Nation has become so Polarized over this issue.

I thought it was a good straight forward answer.
Down here is Georgia we have a great way of dealing with Perez Hiltoon as in cartoon! It is called duct tape! Keep talking Carrie you did fine.

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Manipulation in American

It is very, very difficult for me to believe that Carrie Prejean is being condemned for being "real" Isn't that what having "real" character means or have we forgotten the meaning of that as well? Congratulations to Carrie for voicing her belief and taking a stand on it. Does opposing same-sex relationships mean we do not care or love those who are in a same-sex relationships? Not at all - what it means is that we stand on what is biblically written. Sin is sin regardless of what our "feelings" tell us - lying, stealing, cheating, etc. What bothers me is the manipulation of God's word. It is bended, twisted and contorted to meet what feels good to us. Wrong is wrong. My question is this: Why would this woman be denied the right to be Ms America because of what she feels to be right (against Mr. Hilton's liking) however, Americans can allow a gay gentleman to take part in the judging? It seem hypocritical that because of "his" hurt feelings - or lack of hearing a response that he wanted to hear" can give him such control over the destiny of this woman's future relating only to this pagent? As a Christian, I know many who are homosexual - does that mean I care less for them - absolutely not!! I guess I am simply weary that wrong is becoming right - and accepted as such.

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- What ridiculous BS!
  
  Does it mean that we don't love or care about them? No! We just think they're dirty sinners. Give me a break. You are 100% entitled to your OPINION but standing on God's word is NOT what this is about. It's about the law of the land and the law currently discriminates against the very same sex couples that you "care" about. Do you "care" about them enough to give them the same LEGAL rights as other Americans?
  
  As far as whether she shouldn't win "just because of "his" hurt feelings, as if he is the ONLY homosexual in this country. It's called Mss AMERICA, meaning representing the ENTIRE country, not just the right wing , republican, christian conservatives, that's not the same contest. While I think Perez Hilton is over the top he is entitled to his opinion as much as Miss California, in fact maybe even more since as a gay man who's rights are being denied her answers did not JUST offend his feelings. His opinion about gay marriage does nothing to impact Miss California's world but her opinion does do something to affect his. It's always easy to stand on your side of things because you already have your rights and you stand so righteous in your 2000 year old beliefs yet when a group of your fellow man beg for their rights for their freedom to LOVE who they choose, you deny them. Just what Jesus would do right? If you want to preach about Carrie's "character" for standing by her beliefs then why wouldn't you for Perez Hilton for standing for his rights?
  
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  - from a naturally dirty sinner
    
    First: I am not at all afraid of homosexuals, so no one can label me as "homophobic". In fact, I find many homosexuals, especially in the entertainment world, to be happy, amusing people. Secondly, I can't for the life of me see why or how gay marriage would in any way affect my family or anybody's family; I guess nobody smart has fully explained it to me. And thirdly, as a Christian, I cannot be "tolerant" of sin , and the practice of homosexuality is a sin.
    
    Waitaminit! What the...? What's this guy talking about? I'm talking about two points that Christians should be making in this whole debate, and aren't. One: I AM A DIRTY SINNER! That is, by definition, what a Christian is. I am a dirty sinner forgiven by the grace of the Lord, but there it is just the same; absent that grace, I have no right to even sully this planet with my presence. So, yes, I care...about homosexuals, about addicts, about pedophiles, about murderers, about liars and cheaters and adulterers and the greedy and selfish and everybody else who is caught up in this disaster of being human, but WITHOUT demanding legal protection and social " tolerance " for all these "lifestyles."
    
    Which brings me to the second point: I firmly believe that homosexuals are naturally born that way, and have no choice; who would choose such vilification (except Christians, of course, and I actually believe that Christ chose me, not the other way around). PEOPLE: THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! Human beings are fallen creatures, living in a world we sucked down into the muck with us when we fell. When you choose against God, every imaginable abomination becomes perfectly natural. But we use law and culture and custom and society to restrain our "natural" tendency to exploit, prey upon, harm one another, and generally shake the fist of defiance in the face of a holy God -- not that these restraints are perfect, but because that's what God in his mercy left to us. I feel for homosexuals, and am horrified by their plight of existing in a world in which their (fallen) natural expression of sexuality and intimacy is wrong...but that is, in fact, the world in which we live, created by Adam, the federal head of our sinful race (and if YOU are SURE that, in his place, you would have chosen God and the lonely, narrow, hard road of holiness rather than the self-indulgence of sin, including homosexuality--well, I respectfully submit that you have another think coming).
    
    I am perfectly aware of the "argument" that will be used against me: "That's your opinion! Get your nose out of your Bible and look around you! You've been infected with the meme of Christianity! Unclean! AAUUUGGGGGHH!" So be it. I am merely a witness to what God has said and done in my life. If I testify that I can see a range of the spectrum that you cannot, don't automatically assume that it is because I am blind. I am expressing my opinion, as Miss California did--when asked to. As for what Jesus would do, he will do what he has always done: Love--and forgive upon sincere repentance and desire to follow him, no matter what your sin was, no matter how deeply you thirst to fall back into it. Peace.
    
    - Stranger in a Strange Land April 24, 2009 11:41AM
    
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    - Not everyone wants to be saved by you
      
      Nor does everyone want you making laws based on your views. I know you'll keep trying and I appreciate the candor with which you wrote your comment, I even respect it. Just know that this is a battle you will never win.
      
      As to your statement: I have no right to even sully this planet with my presence.
      
      I am really sorry to hear that you feel that way. That doesn't sound like a way to enjoy the gift of life that God has given you, but we all CHOOSE to live in our own ways. I for one don't think you should have to apologize or beg for forgiveness for existing in your natural state. I don't buy the guilt, you can keep that.
      
      To your other point:
      (and if YOU are SURE that, in his place, you would have chosen God and the lonely, narrow, hard road of holiness rather than the self-indulgence of sin, including homosexuality --well, I respectfully submit that you have another think coming)
      
      It's cute that you are SURE of your beliefs because many of my beliefs have been tested by the scientific method recently, while as yours, no offense are left over from a book written between 1500 and 2000 years ago. Are there any other sources of information from that long ago that you trust this deeply? Or is it perhaps that you are just a little too scared to question the things you've been taught. I may have another thing coming but I live my life unapologetically and as one who tries to make the world a better place and make those around me happy, giving love to as many as I can. Maybe I'll be judged for that. Nothing you are saying is actually, IN FACT, as you wrote. It is in your belief. What makes you SO SURE that yours are the correct ones out of all that are out there?
      
      And finally,
      "Which brings me to the second point: I firmly believe that homosexuals are naturally born that way, and have no choice"
      
      If they have no choice then that is God's perfect creation. That is his plan don't question it, right? The good old fashioned Christian way, unquestioning and without thought. What are your thoughts on Evolution...given any thought to that?
      
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