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Maine's Gay Marriage Initiative Tied 2 Weeks Before Vote

Opinion by Baptist Press
(October 22, 2009) in Society / Gay Issues
AUGUSTA, ME -- With two weeks left before Election Day, a new poll show Maine voters are evenly divided on a historic initiative that would reverse a state law that legalized "gay marriage."

According to the Public Policy Polling survey of 1,130 likely voters Oct. 16-19, 48 percent of Mainers say they will vote yes on Question 1, 48 percent would vote no and 5 percent are undecided. The survey is good news for Question 1 supporters, who were outraised 2-to-1 through September and trailed by 9 points in a poll conducted Sept. 30-Oct. 7. Both surveys used identical polling language -- the same language that will be found on the Nov. 3 ballot.

Question 1 would overturn a law passed by the legislature and signed by the governor that legalized "gay marriage." It has yet to go into effect. The initiative itself is a first: No state in the Northeast has ever voted on the issue. If Question 1 fails, it would be the first time in the nation's history that voters of any state affirmed "gay marriage."

Bob Emrich, spokesperson for Stand for Marriage Maine -- the primary group supporting Question 1 -- told Baptist Press the poll result was "a little encouraging" but not a surprise.

"The polls seem to be pretty consistent that that's about where the race is," he said. "Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think we're probably a little bit further ahead than that. But considering the fact that the other side has been able to raise and outspend us by such huge margins ... I feel that [the poll] was reasonably good news."

Filings with the state government released Oct. 13 showed Protect Maine Equality had raised $2.7 million through the end of September compared to $1.1 million by Stand for Marriage Maine. Emrich said his organization has seen an uptick in donations since then, although he didn't have any hard numbers.

"I think people rallied a little bit when they saw how much the other side has been able to raise," he said.

The new poll was released Tuesday as Stand for Marriage Maine continues to try and persuade voters that "gay marriage" will impact what is taught in public schools. The latest ad spotlights a National Public Radio interview with a Massachusetts eighth-grade teacher who said she was teaching a pro-homosexuality curriculum. The NPR interview was conducted shortly after Massachusetts legalized "gay marriage."

"[T]his is legal now," the teacher says. "If somebody wants to challenge me, I say give me a break."

Emrich said the winner on Election Day likely will be determined by which side does a better job getting its voters to the polls. Carole Edgerly, a pastor's wife who helped lead the drive at Farmington Baptist Church to get Question 1 on the ballot, agrees.

"We just remain hopeful," Edgerly told Baptist Press. "We're going to do our part and God will have to do the rest. Sometimes Christians are so lethargic. They have an opinion but for some reason getting them out to go to the polls is very difficult. There are people calling them, encouraging them."

Emrich believes that most poll results on the issue of "gay marriage" should be viewed somewhat skeptically.

"People, when they talk to pollsters, kind of feel like they need to be politically correct.... Some people are a little reluctant to talk about their position, especially if they are in favor of traditional marriage. They've been told so many times that that's being hateful," he said. "But when they pull the curtain and get ready to do the voting, I think they'll do the right thing."
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  • TheLordrocks
    I will personally light a candle for the cause today

    and ask Gd to help protect children by protecting traditional values in America.

    - TheLordrocksUS October 22, 2009 4:15PM

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    • Omgee
      I will personally light a candle for the cause today, too...

      ... and will ask God to help protect children by protecting their civil rights, by guaranteeing equality for all Americans regardless of sexual orientation. Marriage is far more than a religious institution in our society ; it is also a vital legal construct that should be offered to all, regardless of sexual orientation.

      - OmgeeUS October 22, 2009 5:13PM

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      • Babaroni
        Thank you, omgee

        I, too will pray to God for the safety and wellbeing of all the GLBT people in Maine and their children as they go through this awful period of stress, having their lives put to a popular vote . As a survivor of the travesty of Prop 8 here in CA last year, I know exactly the pain and suffering they are experiencing now as they watch their neighbors revile them on street corners and endure taunts and hatred all around.

        I pray especially for their children, who, like my two little girls did last year, face daily messages of hatred from neighbors regarding their own parents.

        - BabaroniUS October 22, 2009 7:50PM

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        • mike1948
          How old?

          Are your girls old enough to understand the ignorance of some people?

          - mike1948US October 23, 2009 12:04AM

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          • Babaroni
            Unfortunately, yes

            They are 8. They were 7 during Prop 8, and had excitedly celebrated our wedding with us the preceding June, as our flower girls. As the neighborhood become innundated with "Yes on 8" signs, and all of the crap in the news and on TV about the need to "protect children " from the filthy dirty gays who supposedly want to "recruit them" in the schools , etc., they became more and more aware of the conflict and the toll it was taking on us.

            We took them to a few of the "No on 8" rallies near our home, but could never stay there very long with them, because people were driving by continuously in cars , many of them with "Christian" bumper stickers -- Jesus fish, "Not of This World," and so forth, and leaning out their windows to flip us their middle fingers and scream things like "Go to hell you f***ing faggots!" There were even a few who drove by a couple of times to have their LITTLE CHILDREN lean out the window and flip us off. We protected our kids from seeing too much of the crap, and they mostly just got the great experience of meeting other families like ours and being doted on by the other people at the rallies, but it was very upsetting for us that people who call themselves " Christians " would drive by behaving that way towards families with little children.

            My kids learned the word "gay" from the "Yes on 8" campaign. Up until that point, they had never heard the word, to know what it meant. They knew they came from a family with two moms, whereas most of their friends have a mom and dad, but there had never been any particular reason to even use the term "gay" or "lesbian" or "homosexual" or any of the other stuff the "Yes on 8" campaign taught them with their commercials and signs and chants.

            We're certainly not ashamed of being gay, but as far as we're concerned we're far more identified with the roles of parent, mom, family, homeowner, businessowner, neighbor, friend, aunt, cousin, daughter, etc., than with "gay." We had become pretty complacent in the years prior to Prop 8, feeling so at home in our suburban neighborhood, with our two cars and a dog and two kids that we simply figured there was no need to be a "radical" anymore. How wrong we were. What we discovered was that we were so much like our neighbors, blended so well with our community, that our community forgot we existed. They were busy fighting the "gay menace," and forgot that we were just their neighbors down the street whose kids go to school with their kids.

            On voting day, I organized the "No on 8" polling area workers for my locality. I spent the day from 6:00AM until 8:30PM, on my feet without a break even to eat, greeting voters coming to the polling place (outside the 100ft limit and with the consent and cooperation of the polling place manager), offering them literature, talking to people about Prop 8 and what it meant for my family. My wife brought our kids over for a while, but they could only stay for about 1/2 an hour, because some of the people coming to the polls were so vicious and hateful, coming up and yelling in my face that I had no right to be there (I did); that I was a f***ing faggot and was going to hell; that I belonged in Sodom and Gomorrah; and that I should have my children taken away from me.

            I didn't feel safe having them there and didn't want them to hear any of that crap, so I sent them home.

            Prop 8 was emotionally devastating to me and my wife. We did our best to keep it from hurting our children too much, but they saw the signs. They saw me visibly react to new signs that went up on our own block. They saw that it hurt me, and that sometimes I just couldn't help it and had to cry.

            After the vote , I could barely function for a few days. I had invested so much time and energy into the campaign, and the loss was tremendously difficult. We still didn't even know if our marriage would still be valid (it is -- of course, only at the state level, since gay marriages aren't recognized at the federal level).

            The signs eventually came down, but the locations where they were posted are still emblazoned in my memory and I can never look at those homes quite the same way again. I went door to door to many of them prior to the vote to introduce myself and talk to them about their views on Prop 8 and explain why it was hurting my family. Most were simply self-righteous and spouted back the same lies to me that they had learned from their campaign people. What do I know? I'm just gay. I certainly wouldn't know as much as they do about the "gay agenda," right?

            Anyway, that's way more than you asked, but, yeah, my girls understand ignorance more and more all the time, unfortunately.

            - BabaroniUS October 23, 2009 12:59AM

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            • mike1948
              I hope

              as they get a little older they realize that the hate comes from a small vocal minority. Some people have trouble with people who are different. They give Christians a bad name. Always teach your daughters to return prejudgest with love.

              - mike1948US October 23, 2009 9:22AM

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              • Babaroni
                That's always

                That's always my goal.

                - BabaroniUS October 23, 2009 9:51AM

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              • Babaroni
                One more thing...

                As much as I'd like to be able to agree with you that the hate comes from a "small vocal minority," I can't. A majority of people in this country still support the disenfranchisement of gay people and our children . In my area of Southern California, in particular, those who voted to take away marriage rights from gay couples well outweighed those who did not. They, of course, don't like to think of themselves as being "hateful," but it's hard to know what else to call someone who wants their neighbor's children to have fewer rights than their own children because they believe their neighbors are morally inferior to themselves.

                - BabaroniUS October 23, 2009 11:32AM

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            • CitizenZebra
              persecution

              Is a pathetic device to exhort on anyone. To pretend that homosexuality isn't a perversion is equally as bad.

              - CitizenZebraUS October 24, 2009 10:35PM

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            • bhall
              Children learn what they live.....

              So no matter the actions of other's your actions will be instilled as what is right and wrong. I was in San Jose California during the Prop 8 issue and vote . And unfortunately witnessed all you described and more.

              I have two sons that lived with their mother until she whored herself to a tragic near death experience. After that they lived with my partner and I. There they experienced love, responsibilty and respect. They are now married to women and have children of their own. They are secure and loving parents teaching their children that all people are different, not wrong, just different. And to be secure in their own skin.

              You cannot comtrol the actions of others, but you can control how you respond. Fighting, insults and slurs serve no productive purpose. Ignorance and bigotry are destructive to our social fabric.

              Rather than trying to change others be a positive example in your own life, That will be as much of an impression as you can hope for.

              - bhallUS October 31, 2009 8:42AM

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