Keith Olbermann Challenges Sean Hannity to be Waterboarded
Submitted by DeepDiveAdmin on Apr 24, 2009
In a recent debate with actor and commentator Charles Grodin, Fox News's Sean Hannity said that he would agree to endure waterboarding if money were given to charity. Now MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is asking Hannity to put his money where his mouth is, offering $1,000 per second to see such an event.
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Speaking of Gas Bags, Keith Olbermann is the princess of character assassinations. The failure of the sports world, his degrading personal attacks has gotten this loud mouth big money counting in the millions with NBC.
O'Donnell also is another one who speaks from his ass and makes not one bit of sense.
We can sling mud all day and never get to the root of the issue and come to a closer agreement as to what is important and the direction we should take. Both Keith and Lawrence are just males on the rag. At least Lawrence admits he is a coward. What makes him think that anyone in this country has to be tortured to make the act right? Lame thinking on his part, and just an attempt to divert the conversation and keep the demeaning candor going to discredit people.
Now to the subject of torture . It is interesting that after 911, Nancy Pelosi and other left leaning democrats were told, and it was demonstrated to them the “enhanced interrogation methods” that would be used on those that attack us on the “ war on terror ” effort. Now, Nancy and company claimed they never heard about it. So if President Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder wishes to follow through in charging crimes against those who participated in creating the documentation for “enhanced interrogation methods”, then Nancy and company also need to be charged with the same crimes. At least president Bush opened up the door to the other leader of Congress for their input. Yes, this was a big deal.
On another note, we must consider that these combatants are not recognized by the Geneva Convention policy, because they do not wear a uniform to clearly identify themselves as separate from the population, and they also do not follow any part of the Geneva Convention. I have not seen anywhere in the Geneva Convention where it says drag prisoners while on fire through the city; decapitation of prisoners; rape of prisoners. Were dealing with a very low form of life. Shall we place our own people in harms way and treat these people who hate us with kid gloves? Do we sacrifice in vein, our own people to be on a higher moral level? Once life is gone, it is gone. Our people are to precious to be playing the moral high ground game with these criminal.
Keith Olbermann is not thinking lame here. All he is doing is taking Sean Hannity up on his own word. What's wrong with that? Hannity said all by himself, that he'd take a waterboarding for charity. I mean, we are talking $1,000 a second for our troupes and their families here, only a traitor would protest. Keith is merely taking him up on it. No attempt to divert anything here my friend, quite the opposite, it's an attempt to make Hannity face the reality of what he's saying. I also find it extremely amusing that when you refer to Hannity being waterboarded, you call it torture . Let me quote you "What makes him think that anyone in this country has to be tortured to make the act right?" So when Hannity is waterboarded, it's torture, but when we do it to our POW's, it's "enhanced interrogation methods". Way to contradict yourself flawlessly.
Lets talk the subject of torture. Yes, Nancy Pelosi and other "left leaning democrats" (the right leaning democrats were left in the dark) , were told enhanced interrogation was going to be used. However, they were not told the exact methods used, and they were not told torture was going to be used. Waterboarding is not "enhanced interrogation, It is TORTURE. Nancy did not authorize torture my misguided friend. Bush and Cheney did, and they should be held responsible.
It most certainly HAS been ruled that the Geneva Convention applies to these detainees. You are absolutely false on that one. Your reason that it shouldn't apply because they don't wear a uniform is beyond pointless. Also, the fact that one's opposition doesn't follow the Geneva Convention is meaningless. The Geneva Convention always applies regardless of the policies of the enemy. Come on man, this is elementary. You're just making stuff up right now. you clearly don't have the slightest understanding of the Geneva Convention or the countless other anti-torture policies signed into law by our government.
You do ask a good question though, actually, you almost asked a good question. "Do we sacrifice in vein, our own people to be on a higher moral level?". Nothing is sacrificed in vein to be on a higher moral level. America does not torture. America should always take the moral high ground, and HOW DARE you call such a sacrifice to be in "vein". You call the enemy criminals (and they are), but if we let ourselves justify torture, than we become criminals no better than them. I refuse to let that happen. Do not ever forget what makes this country great. True patriots will not stand to let people like you and Sean Hannity defile our nation. AMERICA DOES NOT TORTURE.
Hannity and Olbermann are insignificant. Who cares about these two when the issue is to protect America and its citizens?
The cowards we have elected, including Pelosi, will do and say anything to avoid the subject and to avoid risking their seat in Congress. Pelosi as well as other spineless politicians were brief and were taken by the hand and had the methods demonstrated to them. We only need to look so far to the president to see back peddling.
Explain to me how we should get critical information from terrorist that will prevent an attack on our soil again? I am all ears! Do we offer men who come forward with vital information our daughters hand in marriage? Do we offer them luxury and a salary for their information? It seems the liberals would approve of this method, but expect everyone else to pay for it. Put up or shut up.
What do you propose we do when the enemy does not play by the rules of Geneva and International laws and they continue to capture and torture , kill and maimed our citizen? Turn a cheek and permit it from our backside? A recent poll shows 70 percent of citizens say no, we do what is required to prevent further attacks. Clearly American do not like the idea of torturing people, but when it will save your own life, or that of a family member or of a fellow comrade, then someone has to step forward and do what is necessary and perform the dirty task. Not everyone can be a doctor, nor can everyone have the stomach to perform interrogations, but thank God we have a few brave people who will do it in the name of protecting freedom for those who want it.
Hannity and Olbermann are insignificant yes, however, they do reach a large audience and address issues that are important and relevant. Hannity made a fool of himself. Lets forget about that.
You support and are for the administration of torturous acts against our prisoners. These are people that have been captured, unarmed, and taken off the battle field. You feel that these prisoners may have vital information that could lead to another attack on American soil. One problem, often times we only suspect they have valuable intelligence. So you support the go-ahead of waterboarding, sleep deprivation for up to 11 days, being striped naked and sexually huminated, ext. These are techniques released in the memos. I'd like to know from you, is there a certain line in your mind that you wouldn't cross? If torture is acceptable in your mind. would you have a problem with burning flesh with flames and hot prongs? Would taking a razor blade and mutilating a mans genitals be something you would consider in the name of national security? You're trying to open a dangerous door into barbaric, savage, and inhumane practices that this nation (and many others) have closed and deemed immoral, and an attack on our core values.
You seemed convinced that without torture, we would somehow be rendered defenseless. The truth of the matter is, torture is not an exceptionally effective means for extracting information from captives. After a person is subjected to torturous treatment, they begin saying anything the torturer wants to hear to make it stop (true or false). John McCain, who was a Vietnam War POW, whom also advocates against torture said when he was being tortured as a POW, he would give the enemy names of baseball players just to make them stop.
When we engage in torture it is not only morally repugnant, but it does more damage to the effort to stop terrorism than good. How can we lead the fight against these murdering extremest who take their captives and decapitate them, when we take our captives and torture? We set an example to the world as America, that our fight is the right fight, and that we will fight it right. Read this article on the effectiveness of torture, and maybe you'll understand that it's not only unnecessary, it's goes against our nations values.
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=47000