Gun Falls Out of Car, Woman Shot and Killed
Submitted by Freedom States Alliance on Sep 28, 2009
A woman dies after being shot Sunday afternoon in the parking lot of a 7-11 in Springville. Police said the gun fell out of her car and discharged. Lt. Dave Caron of Springville Police said, "When they stopped at a 7-11, her husband opened the door for her to get in the car and when he did, a gun fell out, it hit the ground and went off."
A witness told police that the couple had not been arguing. It seems to have been an accident, but the investigation is ongoing. Watch the report:
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Douchy McDouchistan!
Would it have killed you to buy a trigger lock for your ancient, non-protection, handgun? No... that was her!
Too soon?
A trigger lock is not the answer in this case. The trigger was never pulled. The gun dropped, the hammer fell and fired a round. There are two possible actions that would have prevented this. Either unloading the gun, or not having it in the car with the hammer cocked.
Modern guns are designed to prevent this from happening. You could load a round in the chamber in my daily carry gun and throw it to the ground and it would not fire. No trigger lock needed there either. Nope. Education and knowledge of your own firearms are your best safeties.
With a revolver, it makes absolutely no sense to have it fully loaded. An empty chamber under the hammer eliminates any possible chance of an AD. Even worse, a revolver is ready to fire with an empty under the hammer, unlike an auto where a round has to be chambered if you don't have one in the pipe.
Unlike a cop or a soldier, it is fantastically unlikely the average person will ever need one, let alone 6. Five is more than enough for anyone who doesn't spend their time imagining wildly unlikely situations. If a person is such a bad shot they anticipate missing the first 5 times, or if they anticipate having to get into a firefight with more than 5 bad guys, they're already in heap big trouble. In that kind of situation your best bet is to save your ammo and run like crazy.
The Brady Bunch should go rent the "Darwin Awards" if they don't understand how easy it is for a really stupid person to kill themselves even when there isn't a gun within a hundred miles.
to a law banning firearms without a hammer safety being used outside the home, for this exact reason?
Requiring the open or concealed carried sidearm be secured in a retention holster? No more willy-nilly guns falling out of cars when the door opens?
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
if it's a gun that is of a..class, I suppose, that is prone to misfiring, to firing without the trigger being pulled, or just doesn't have all the safety things that modern guns have, it should probably stay in a case. Like a car that's so old the brakes are now recognized to not work sometimes..Keep it off the road.
You can carry that gun with the hammer down, and it is not an issue. In addition, double action revolvers have no need for a hammer safety because you can pull the trigger with the hammer down and fire a round. This is still safe because double action revolvers have really long trigger pulls, so you will not fire them accidentally. And the gun won't fire a round with the hammer down, as in an accidental drop.
This was an accident caused by a guy who didn't know the inherent dangers in the gun and the way it was being transported. Unfortunately there will always be people who think just because they know how to pull the trigger and put a hole in paper that they know guns . This is obviously not true. I know guns fairly well, but I don't pretend to be an expert. And for that reason - and the other obvious ones - I treat every single gun I handle with the utmost respect. It takes absolutely no time at all to make what will become your very last mistake, and I am not going to go out that way.
Dangerous in a drop. Single action or double makes no difference. The force of the impact can still push the firing pin into the primer, assuming it lands on the spur. In which case, the muzzle would be pointing in a dangerous direction.
Right?
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
Some single action revolvers might still fire if dropped. Not sure if the height of a car would do it. But that's where knowing your weapon comes in.
For example, I carry my gun with a round chambered, ready to fire. It doesn't have a traditional safety, but it is still very safe. It has a grip safety which must be depressed in order to pull the trigger, which also has a safety that must be depressed. In addition, it has a striker block which prevents the firing pin from contacting the primer unless the trigger is pulled, as in the case of being dropped.
There's are reasons that very few people carry single action revolvers for self defense. For me it has less to do with safety and more to do with capacity and time. I like being able to draw and fire. It requires no extra movement and is very intuitive. But to each their own. The main thing is to practice with and know the weapon that you are entrusting your life to.
My daily carry releases all 3 of the safeties as I pull the trigger.
Pray that I never have to do so.
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.