Dr. Greek justification in his book for citing scientists out of context is not likely to be accepted by any scholar. Darwin once wrote:
“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree”
This is a passage often used by those opposed to evolution as implying Darwin felt there were “gaps” in his theory. Yet, in the lines that follow, Darwin explains how eyes could in fact have evolved in incremental steps. Dr. Greek would justify the use of the above statement while ignoring Darwin’s interpretation and implying he held a different view.
Dr. Greek’s thinks he has presented theoretical arguments to prove that research with animals cannot produce a cures for human disease. I have read the entire book, but failed to find any such “proof”. I do not believe there is one.
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Such broad claims, incidentally, remind me of yet other famous words by Darwin:
“It has often and confidently been asserted, that man’s origin can never been known; but ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.”
I believe this site offers a good opportunity for exchange of opposing ideas. As Dr. Greek knows, it took an incredible amount of effort, time and funds to organize the panel discussion at UCLA. This forum presents the opportunity for open debate -- one where the public can participate as well. So here we are... debating. I will try to contribute these echanges in the future, whenever my teaching and research responsibilities allows, by presenting my point of view on these topics.
Finally, given that we appear to be in the mode for challenges, here is one I’d like offer to Dr. Greek. As Dr. Greek is an anesthesiologist, I would like him to explain (in a self-contained post) how anesthesia works without using any concepts and knowledge that were the result of the use of animals in biomedical research.