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Brady Campaign: Guns Don't Belong on Campus

By Dennis Henigan 

 

In the wake of the Tucson shooting, Arizona’s legislature is considering various bills addressing guns and violence. The legislation with the best chance of passage has nothing to do with strengthening the state’s laws to prevent dangerous individuals from easily acquiring the firepower that enabled Jared Loughner to shoot 19 people in about 16 seconds, killing six of them. Incredibly, the bill with the most momentum would force Arizona colleges and universities to allow the concealed carry of guns on campus.

The Arizona bill is one of many similar bills being pushed in states across the nation, as the gun lobby seeks to overcome the collective judgment of college administrators, faculty and students that allowing guns on campus is a recipe for disaster. Up until now, sanity has prevailed, as such bills have failed 43 times in 23 states in recent years. But the forces of “gun everywhere” are back, and pitched battles are underway, not only in Arizona, but in Texas and elsewhere.

It all started with the Virginia Tech mass shooting of almost four years ago, which prompted “gun rights” proponents to argue that the shooting could have been stopped if one of the students in the targeted classrooms had been carrying a gun and could have returned fire. It is revealing that none of the students and teachers who actually were under fire that day have become proponents of concealed carry on campus. Indeed, Colin Goddard, who was shot four times in his French class, has become a crusader for stronger gun laws, as poignantly depicted in the documentary Living for 32, now being shown on college campuses coast-to-coast. (The movie was shown at the University of Arizona and Arizona State this week.)

The argument supporting guns on campus is based on a bizarre assessment of relative risks. Its proponents seek to create the remote possibility that a legal gun carrier will be in the right place at the right time when a killer attacks, and will act effectively to stop the attacker, when the attack itself, particularly a mass attack, is itself a remote possibility. In order to create the unlikely chance of this “good guy shoots attacker” scenario becoming reality, the proponents of campus concealed carry seek to ensure a proliferation of guns in classrooms, dorm rooms, dining halls, sports stadiums – anywhere where a violent attack may occur.

This necessarily means introducing a broad new array of obvious risks into everyday life on college campuses. Those risks seem anything but remote: that an argument between a professor and a disgruntled student will erupt in gunfire; that an intoxicated student will accidentally discharge his gun while showing it off at a Friday afternoon keg party; that a student’s momentary despair over a romantic break-up will turn lethal as he finds a gun and turns it on himself.

The pro-gun crowd assails “gun-free zones” that allegedly invite the violent to attack the unarmed, but the reality is that currently gun-free college campuses are far safer than the gun-saturated communities that surround them. Justice Department figures show that college students aged 18 to 24 experience violence at a 20% lower rate than non-students in the same age group. In addition, 93% of the violence against students occurs off campus.

Given that in most states gun owners must be 21 to carry concealed weapons, the “guns on campus” activists question why law-abiding adults licensed to carry in other locations should be barred from doing so on college campuses. Several obvious responses come to mind.

First, the experience of states in making it easier to carry concealed weapons hardly recommends extending concealed carry to college campuses. The evidence is mounting that very dangerous people are being given concealed carry licenses, that they are committing egregious violence with guns, and that liberalized concealed carry is associated with more violent crime, not less. Why should we subject our largely peaceful college campuses to a policy that has led to greater danger outside those campuses? After all, Jared Loughner was a legal concealed carrier under Arizona law until he shot 19 people.

Second, college campuses are particularly hazardous environments for widespread gun possession and carrying. They are populated largely by individuals aged 18 to 24, a highly volatile time of life and the age group with the highest incidence of such behaviors as binge drinking and drug use. Moreover, those young people live in dormitories, group houses and other high-density situations in which it is difficult to ensure that a gun always will be in the possession of the person licensed to carry it.

The pressures of college life itself add to the risk, particularly the risk of suicide. Chancellor Francisco Cigarroa of the University of Texas, in an eloquent letter to Governor Rick Perry opposing concealed carry on campus, cited the concerns of “campus health professionals, who know and deal with the reality of the emotional and psychological pressures of academic life, separation from family, relationships – all pressures that contribute to the harsh reality that suicide is the second leading cause of death among college students.”

Finally, don’t believe for a minute that the “gun rights” crowd is content to limit campus concealed carry to 21-year-old seniors and grad students. At the same time the gun lobby is pressing the Texas legislature to force Texas universities to allow concealed carry, the NRA is pursuing a lawsuit to strike down, as a violation of the Second Amendment, the Texas law setting 21 as the minimum age to carry concealed. If the NRA gets its way, it will be freshmen and all other students who will be eligible to carry loaded guns on campus.

Students are standing with their professors and administrators in resisting laws forcing campuses to accept guns. The student government at the University of Texas has come out foursquare against such laws. Just this week, 57% of the Texas A&M student body voted against guns on campus. These are young people who have grown up around guns, yet understand they have no place on a college campus.

Ultimately, this is not just a campus safety issue. It also is an issue involving the core values served by institutions of higher education. It is difficult to imagine anything more destructive to an environment of academic freedom – in which controversial issues can be passionately debated free of fear and intimidation – than students or professors “strapped” as they participate in those debates.

Students, faculty and administrators get it. Do our lawmakers?

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AmericansForGuns's picture

The Brady Campaign Making

The Brady Campaign

Making Statistics One Defenseless Victim at a Time

The Brady Camp, and anti gun nuts in general, are creating dead, beaten and raped victims every day in this country. They do this by convincing YOU that by YOU not carrying a gun to defend yourself that somehow you are contributing to reducing crime. But, are YOU a criminal? If YOU carried a gun would you suddenly lose your mind and go on a killing rampage?

The Brady camp knows that there are violent criminals out there. And they know if these criminals somehow target YOUR family like they do so many others in this country that YOU will be defenseless by listening to their rhetoric and their false statistics.

Are YOU naive enough and ignorant enough to give YOUR life up, and your families lives up, to some crack head criminal who doesn't care in the least if he bashes in your sons skull or rapes your daughter and butchers her afterward....just to win points with the Brady camp nuts?

Is YOUR family so worthless to you that you will let some man like Paul Helmke tell YOU that you can't be trusted with a tool to defend your family from these predators?

Why do you let Brady tell you how YOU will behave if you own a gun? Why do you let them allow YOU to let YOUR family be unprotected just so THEY can spew out feel good rhetoric so even bigger idiots than you will continue to support them?

What does Brady lose or gain if YOU listen to their idiocy and YOUR wife is raped when she could have saved herself by simply having a gun ?

See what happens when a woman has a gun? See this video: Woman kills her returning rapist with shotgun No gun = a raped woman. Gun = unraped woman and a dead ass rapist.

No one wants to admit that the Brady camp MAKES dead victims. They CREATE raped women. They FACILITATE defenseless prey who are beaten, raped, robbed, stabbed, shot....murdered.

And they do it because YOU let them because YOU are too much of a hive mind drone that you can't think and reason for yourself. Do you think Paul Helke gives a rats rear about YOUR wife...YOUR son...YOUR daughter? No...he doesnt.

All the Brady Camp cares about is making sure YOU are DEFENSELESS. To them if you are murdered...if your wife is savagely raped and beaten to death....if you son is ripped apart by some lunatic with a knife, all Brady sees is that you are one more statistic. Gun rights groups are fighting for YOUR RIGHT to DEFEND yourself even if YOU don't presently understand that fact. Gun rights advocates want YOU to have the POWER to PROTECT yourself...your wife...your daughters and your sons...even if you cant accept that fact.

You may call us gun nuts. You may think we are paranoid. But the fact is that there are millions of defenseless victims in the USA every year.

Will your wife be one of them tomorrow? Will your family? You may not think so but crime happens every day...and it happens to someone just like you and me. Will YOU be next? And if you are can you do anything to stop it? Honestly?

William Tipton's picture

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mhphoto's picture

God you people are ignorant.

I have to say I'm surprised by the ignorance in this discussion. If we take all the emotional nonsense out of the arguments against campus carry we'll start to see things more clearly.

I have my CCL. Why should my right to self defense stop at an arbitrary school border? If I've already proven myself to the state through the CCL program as being competent to carry a gun into Wal-Mart and Whole Foods, why is a University different?

What am I supposed to do when someone barges into my classroom with a gun? Beg and throw my wallet at them? Perhaps everyone in the room could use the tactic that Chicago has told women to do if they're being raped: induce vomiting. Surely we can agree that a forty caliber slug to the head is more effective at stopping a madman than letting him see what I had for lunch. Duck and cover? Well, if he's intent on killing people he's going to do it, no matter how tight of a fetal position we've pulled ourselves into.

What about alcohol? Opponents say that the armed "kids" will be drunk and fighting all the time. This "blood in the streets" argument has been used by the opponents of carry legislation since Florida passed their shall-issue carry law. "Blood will run in the streets over simple fender benders!" But we've yet to see the mass chaos. Sure, there are a few bad apple CCL holders who've committed crimes, but if you take time to look at the ratio of law breaking CCL holders to law-abiding carriers and compare that to the same ratio of people without their permits you'll find that the percentage of permit holders engaging in crime is so obscenely low as compared to the same percentage of non permit holders engaging in crime to be almost negligible.

And what's with all these "kids" comments? You have to be 21 to legally get you CCL and to legally buy a gun. Now, read that last sentence again.

"You have to be 21 to legally get you CCL and to legally buy a gun."

Did you catch it? the key words there are "legally". As we know, criminals, by definition, break the law. Someone who is determined to break the law is not going to be stopped by an arbitrary boundary, sign, or law saying they can't carry onto campus.

"But campuses have always been historically safe areas," you say.

True, and yet we still have to deal with tragedies like Virginia Tech. That madman wasn't stopped by a law or a sign, but he could've been stopped by another students who was carrying a concealed weapon. But instead, his rampage lasted hours and he killed 32 people.

Add to that that historically college campuses have had a higher incidence of sexual assault. My wife graduation last year, but if she'd been assaulted on campus she would've likely only had her voice and her fists to fend off an attacker. I want every man reading this to think about that happening to their wife. Just think about it. Think about some sick lunatic forcing himself onto your wife and how defenseless she is.

Men are stronger than women, but a pistol is a hell of an equalizer. If your wife was train to use a firearm wouldn't you want her to have the right to be abel to protect herself? Even on campus? Wouldn't you be angry at the people who rallied against your wife's right to self defense, these same people who think a rape whistle and vomiting is all the defense she'll ever need?

The people who would be allowed to carry guns onto campus are the same people who are already carrying them off campus. You may not like the thought of this, but when you go to the store chances are you'll be next to a private citizen who is carrying a gun at some point. And you know what? That law-abiding citizen having a gun on his hip puts you in absolutely no more danger than you'd be in if they weren't standing next to you.

It's emotional irrationality that tells our fear conditioned minds that the mere presence of a gun, hidden or in plain view, triggers something within us humans that automatically makes us more violent and prone to confrontation.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Take the emotion out of your argument against law-abiding adults being able to protect themselves on campus and you'll start to see that it's not as crazy as it's been made out to be.

Ghostfinger's picture

Thanks..

Just wanted to say Thanks for your response to the article. Couldn't have said it better myself. Also thought you might enjoy the following -

"In Texas, for example, the rate of concealed carry is about 1.8% (as of December 31, 2010). Approximat­ely one Texan out of every 55 is licensed to carry a concealed handgun. Yet, according to official statistics­, Texas concealed handgun license holders are five and a half times less likely than members of Texas’s general population to commit manslaught­er and four times less likely to commit murder. Despite Texas’s high rate of concealed carry, a person in Texas is more than 20 times as likely to be struck by lightning as to be murdered or negligentl­y killed by a concealed handgun license holder. (Texas Department of Public Safety, five-year average of statistics on criminal conviction­s of CHL holders, 2002-2006; U.S. Census Bureau, yearly estimates of Texas Population­, 2002-2006; U.S. National Weather Service, “Medical Aspects of Lightning,­” Dr. Marry Ann Cooper)"”

TL671's picture

Don't forget

There are already 71 campuses in three separate states (Utah, Colorado, W.Virginia) that allow concealed carry on campus with Utah having allowed campus carry for the last 5 years, and the grand total of crimes committed either by, or against a concealed carrier is exactly ZERO.

mhphoto's picture

Exactly

Too bad the Brady Bunch won't recognize that.

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