Book "Why Great Teachers Quit" Examines Politics of Teaching
Over the break, I had the pleasure of reading a book by our very own Katy Farber. I always get a thrill reading books by people who I know and admire.
Katy not only parents two girls and writes for MotherTalkers and Non-Toxic Kids, but she is also an elementary school science teacher. (Where do you find the time, girl?) In her first book, Why Great Teachers Quit And How We Might Stop the Exodus, Katy examines just that: why are so many young, smart and idealistic people exiting the field in droves within the first five years? While she did examine the obvious reasons of low pay and crazy hours, which left me convinced that teaching is not a family-friendly profession, her answer was much more nuanced.
For example, according to the National Commission on Teaching and America's Future, the No. 1 reason teachers left high poverty, urban public schools was because of poor administrative support (50 percent) and not poor salary (26.9 percent). A lack of faculty influence (42.5 percent) was the second biggest reason teachers left poor urban public schools. As for teachers in low poverty, suburban public schools, they left due to poor salary (51 percent) followed by poor administrative support (30 percent). Notice that their reasons for leaving had nothing to do with the students.
Which leads me to one of the biggest factors driving out teachers: politics. Legislation like No Child Left Behind and standardized testing is decreasing student morale and forcing out teachers, who must take even more time from their busy schedules to supervise students rather than teach or grade papers. Also, they have not been trained to supervise such tests in a way that would please legislators, often non-educators, mandating such testing.
What surprised me was that, while well-intentioned, these tests have not increased student achievement.
In some cases, when it looks as though test scores are going up, one must read the back story to understand whether all students were assessed, how the dropout rate plays into it, and how much quality teaching is happening. Houston, Texas, was touted nationally as a success story for raising the test scores of all of its students. The district claimed a low 1.5 percent dropout rate, but at Sharpston High School, 463 of 1,700 students left during the school year; none were reported as dropping out. Instead, they were assigned a code that meant they had changed schools, gone back to a native country, or gone for their GED, when many of them never reported these reasons to the school (Meier et al., 2004). The real story is that a new correlation has arisen from frequent standardized testing: falling graduation rates as standardized testing increases (Meier et al., 2004).
Interesting, eh? Another aspect of Katy's book that I liked was that it wasn't simply a whiny tome on the state of education today, rather it offered educators solutions to implement best practices. She visited schools all across the country and interviewed dozens of teachers both online and offline. She gave examples of schools that were actually implementing these practices, like, the Sherman Oaks Community Charter School in California, which allows teachers and staff 90 minutes daily of uninterrupted time to collaborate.
Here is a great example of how parents can partner with teachers to give children the best possible education:
In an era of dwindling budgets and jam-packed agendas, this may seem impossible. Not so, says Principal Peggy Bryan (Curtis, 2000). At Sherman Oaks, "Teachers meet while students have lunch, study hall, and a recreation period. Paraprofessionals -- usually parents -- come in during that time and oversee the children. 'It's simple, inexpensive, and it makes all the difference'" (para. 8), she said.
While the format is always under revision, teachers use this time for planning, grade-level meetings, cross-grade meetings, and problem solving. This lends itself to a feeling of professionalism, colleagueship, and support...By providing built-in opportunities like this, Sherman Oaks fosters a collaborative community that works together to support every child, and every teacher as they constantly hone and learn their craft.
Katy's book is a quick and delightful read, a mere 156 pages. But one area I would have loved to see her dedicate a chapter to is that of "education reform." So-called education reformers like Teach for America, charter school proponents, and DC School Chancellor Michelle Rhee, have rankled some in the teaching profession because they are non-union. But I am interested to see what success, if any, they have had.
There are a few ideas that I am especially curious as to whether they would work. One is year-round schooling as practiced by charter schools like KIPP in Texas. It makes sense that three-month summer vacations are not compatible with a working parent's schedule, especially one who cannot afford day camps. Of course, I would rather parents receive vacation, too, but it doesn't seem realistic in an era of fewer full-time jobs and people working multiple part-time jobs.
The other, as proposed by Rhee, is more money in lieu of tenure. I wonder how many teachers would go for it?
Finally, I am wondering how the three-year teaching cycles as dictated by Teach for America is working for them. On the one hand, I am sad that children in high risk areas are experiencing such high staff turnover. But a part of me also wonders if some schools are so tough that it is better for a teacher to remain there only three years to avoid burnout -- like the military, another tough job. I don't know, which is why I'd like more research on this. What do you all think?

Tenure: Would you mind sharing the definition of tenure you are using, and what you think that does for me? I know our district is different than most, and we were used as a model for the new Colorado law that effectively killed tenure in Colorado.
Regarding the Bell Schedule: I agree with you; I don't like it either. I'm curious as to your solutions regarding scheduling, school days, etc.
Grading Time: Maybe you're right. Maybe I spend too much time on each paper, and maybe I don't need to be so thorough. Some of my students are special ed, but those aren't usually the ones that take the time. My Advanced Placement students write some pretty good stuff, so it takes a little longer to help them fine tune their writing, analysis, etc. Penmanship is also a lost art, so some of their writing is difficult to decipher. It's one of the things I am forced to teach at the high school level because it is no longer taught in the primary grades. Computers are not allowed during the national AP exam, so they need to learn to write by hand quickly, neatly and accurately.
I am quite aware that these are people's lives we are discussing. Remember, that's why I chose to teach. So I'm curious about another thing:
Am I part of the garbage you'd like to sweep out?
RE: "I'm curious as to your solutions regarding scheduling, school days, etc."
For starters, the whole suffling around business doesn't make much sense, at least as far as required subjects are concerned. Why should teachers need to specialize on subjects and material they, in theory at least, were required to know when they, themselves, graduated from school? For example, why can't one teacher cover basic English, math, civics/history, and science in one three/four hour stretch, with maybe a short recess in the middle, then do elective classes in the afternoon? If nothing else, it would eliminate the ability to say a student writing a paper on history, doesn't know English, if the same teacher is responsible for a student knowing both.
RE: "Am I part of the garbage you'd like to sweep out?"
You tell me. How many of your students are absorbing the material it is your responsibility to communicate to them? Off hand I'd say if the number is lower than 95%, let's get out the broom and go to work.
If the horse can't jump the fence, shoot the horse. Eventually you'll find one that can jump, without spending a ton of money feeding the culls.
As an aside, there was a teaching method developed some 40 years ago where kids were typically doing college level work by age 12. I don't recall the details, but part of it was based on teaching kids how to type before teaching writing. That part was because young children lack the fine motor skills for penmanship, but do okay with a keyboard. The rest of it was more or less based on throwing as much material at them as they could chew through, one room schoolhouse style. As close as I could ever tell, the only reason the system wasn't adopted is because no one knew what to do with 12 year olds who were better educated than most college professors.
I've tried to dig up information on the method online more than a few times, without success. It seems to have been buried as thoroughly as the connection between lead toothpaste tubes and brain damaged children in the late 70s. Whatever. Knowing the possibilities exist left me with a lifelong intolerance for the argument that kids aren't smart enough to be taught the kind of tripe offered in public schools. Short of an outright mental handicap, there is no such thing as dumb children, just dumb teachers.
Good teachers quit because we're expected to teach the unteachable masses. 90% of students at any level (except for maybe graduate school) are dimwitted, half-brained idiots that are incapable of being educated.
The fact that we have to water down our curriculum to cater to this 90% of the population is why good teachers quit.
I mean I teach college and it's still here. I gave a quiz to my college algebra class this past week, the class average was a D- (which is 45% on my grading scale). Tell me something isn't wrong with that picture....
I'm agreeing with you fully.
I'm a student. I refer to about half of my classmates as Neanderthals, the other half slip out because of all the retarded distraction the cave men are making, while the teachers have to go over a concept for the twentieth time I got the first. Its the final 10% who are determined to not loose due to a full grown toddler that are the students you're talking about.
It's the half that had the desire to learn but missed out because of some child that never grew up that I'm sad for.
If we put everyone in a class according to their skill, and the teachers the same this would probably go away rather quickly.
I started taking online classes. If one more Neanderthal started laughing because the answer the the question came up as 69... I would have killed him with my chair. Repeatedly.
After I got away from the Neanderthals I gained a 20% grade boost with some of the same teachers. Went from 80's to 100's.
Okay, Mr. Earl.
Here's our bell schedule.
Daily Bell Schedule
2010-2011
MONDAY BELL SCHEDULE (Late arrival)
Period 0 8:15 – 9:15
Period 1 9:20 – 10:20
Period 2 10:25 – 11:40
3A Lunch 11:40 – 12:05
3A Class 12:10 - 1:10
3B Class 11:45 - 12:45
3B Lunch 12:45 - 1:10
Period 4 1:15 - 2:15
Period 5 2:20 - 3:20
TUESDAY thru FRIDAY BELL SCHEDULE
Period 0 7:05 – 8:15
Period 1 8:20 – 9:30
Period 2 9:35 – 10:45
Homeroom 10:50 – 11:10
3A Lunch 11:10 – 11:35
3A Class 11:40 - 12:50
3B Class 11:15 - 12:25
3B Lunch 12:25 – 12:50
Period 4 12:55 - 2:05
Period 5 2:10 - 3:20
ASSEMBLY SCHEDULE
Period 0 7:05 – 8:15
Period 1 8:20 – 9:25
Period 2 9:30 – 10:35
Assembly 10:40 – 11:10
3A Lunch 11:10 – 11:35
3A Class 11:40 - 12:50
3B Class 11:15 - 12:25
3B Lunch 12:25 – 12:50
Period 4 12:55 - 2:05
Period 5 2:10 - 3:20
Students are allowed to leave classes to use the restroom, teachers are not. Please note the time available for lunch. I don't know how our district avoids the federal lunch and break requirements, but they do.
"Grading" and "reading" a student written paper are two dramatically different things. Reading takes about 3 minutes. Writing comments, correcting grammar and logging the score in the gradebook take the other 7. Not for all of them, but for most of them.
"Tenure" is an debatable concept, and almost non-enforceable in Colorado. Besides, Colorado just passed a law that effectively eliminates it. In our district, the term is never even used. I reached "Professional Status" after 3 years, but it doesn't mean much. All that changes is that the district needs to provide a "cause" for my dismissal. In our case, and I know we're different than most, cause is determined by evaluation scores. Our district has been truly progressive in this area. We have made great strides to solve some of the incompetence issues you have identified. 4 of the 5 teachers I mentioned in my previous post were "professional" teachers.
I joined the teaching profession to try to fix some of these issues from inside the system. I am neither incompetent nor a liar, and I have lots of letters from grateful students and parents to prove it. I am neither Republican nor Democrat; I am a registered independent. I am an educated, committed American man doing my best to make a difference. Yes, Mr. Earl, I would like you to go on. Is there anything else you'd like to challenge?
and it's the same three years as it is in most states.
RE: ""Grading" and "reading" a student written paper are two dramatically different things. Reading takes about 3 minutes. Writing comments, correcting grammar and logging the score in the gradebook take the other 7. Not for all of them, but for most of them."
First, why would it take 3 minutes to read 5 paragraphs written by school children? Are you teaching special education ? Or attending classes as a student?
60 seconds would be slow going even if you took time out to circle mistakes in red. In theory, at least, this should be material you are passing familiar with. Essays are typically graded on the usual A through F scale, which would be a judgment call of a matter of seconds for anyone with a hint of experience. Entering the result in a printed or electronic record would be a matter of several more seconds.
I don't have a way to cross check the schedule you posted except to say it is quite different from others I was able to find on Colorado schools, and looks to be written by patients in an asylum, staffed by morons.
About all you've managed to do is set my possition in concrete that our public education system is an embarassing disgrace and the only solution is to use a broad broom, without mercy, to sweep out the garbage.
Half this country's children graduate so poorly educated they are unable to earn so much as 75% of the Federal poverty level, while upholstered parasites bitch about making 120% of the average income of everyone else, while working the equavalent of 8 months a year.
THESE ARE PEOPLE'S LIVES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
The incompetence of teachers dooms these children to life long poverty. The most outrageous aspect of the situation is teachers act like rock stars, instead of people who should be so deeply ashamed of their failures they ought to be embarassed to show their faces in public.
It's hardly a mystery why discipline is a problem in public schools. Respect is never a free gift. Respect is something one earns through being worthy of respect. Contempt, likewise, is something earned by those worthy of it. When teachers universally acknowledge they are universally treated with contempt, that's really all anyone needs to know about the truth of the situation. As amazing as it may seem to those in the profession, children are quite gifted when it comes to recognizing a fool when they see one.
I'm gonna disagree with you on this subject.
I never saw any respect from the grand majority of my class mates while I was in high school. Okay, scratch that, there was ONE man they respected. The local Fire Marshal. Everybody else was disrespected.
We have a Jr. ROTC program here. There were a group of students that were walking around with Swastikas on red backgrounds during Master Gun's birthday. He and Gunny nearly had an aneurysm. What do you do to earn the respect of a little shit faced brat who would disrespect a veteran like that? Master guns is an old guy, he deployed to Germany in WW2. How do you get respect out of someone who would dishonor a 79 year old man like that?
Don, I think you need to spend some time at this massive circus we call "public education " and get to meet some of the clowns who run the show.
All it took to go to Germany in WWII was to be the right age for the draft at the time. All it takes to become 79 years old is to breath in and out a certain number of times. Neither is a major accomplishment worthy of accolades.
RE: "We have a Jr. ROTC program here. There were a group of students that were walking around with Swastikas on red backgrounds during Master Gun's birthday. He and Gunny nearly had an aneurysm."
Sounds like something out of Animal House. Only a full blown fool would throw a tizzy fit over something so obviously intended to be a prank. And, as I mentioned previously, kids are quite good at identifying a fool when they see one.
RE: "there was ONE man they respected. The local Fire Marshal. Everybody else was disrespected."
All you're doing is digging a hole under yourself and proving my point. Light weights and prima donnas don't make it to become firemen, let alone Fire Marshalls.
You seem to have the brain capacity to learn things. Try learning wisdom. If you ever figure out the difference between some old poseur playing tin soldier in front of children, and someone who leads real men and why men follow him, you'll be most of the way there. One invites ridicule, the other does not.
Is a giant here. Might have something to do with the fact that he can stare you down. He stands more than a foot over me.
This is a tangent on extremes, but I think I can tie it in.
Would you believe that I'm only 20? I grew up at 9 and have been accumulating wisdom and knowledge since. When I was a boy, my father was abusive to my mother. Several of my family members came to get us out of that home. On the way up here, they had a vehicular accident. Several of them died, my aunt and grandma were seriously injured. After the funeral my mom realized what an ass my dad was being, and they had their last fight. He left with the car, leaving us with only the cloths on our backs.
The next few years were very hard. very very hard.
My views on what all of these other kids have and abuse is cynical, and there is some damn good reason for that. Now I don't know how old you are. I'm pretty sure you've been an adult for more than eleven years. Honestly, I find your point of view Idealistic.
Master guns , by the way has a purple heart. He has been a marine all his life, and I found my fellow classmates display dishonorable.
So, how about you find out EXACTLY what I'm talking about. It's not hard to become a substitute. I've had substitutes at my school from 90 year old ladies who remember when this town was a one street trade lane, to just retired NASA engineers. All of them were disrespected. They had no respect for anyone who stood in front of them.
Hell, I even saw one physically assault a substitute once. Before class even began. How do you earn respect in that one eh Don? Since you seem to have all the answers here.
"You seem to have the brain capacity to learn things. Try learning wisdom. If you ever figure out the difference between some old poseur playing tin soldier in front of children, and someone who leads real men and why men follow him, you'll be most of the way there. One invites ridicule, the other does not."
You don't see the offence in this? Towards someone who went out and killed other people for his country? Poseurs and Prima Dona's don't become Master Gunnery Sergeants. In the Marines they become dead.
He lead men into battles, trained soldiers to fight in following wars.Now he teaches a small group of kids who are interested in becoming officers in the marine corps.
How about them squealing like pigs when the police chief came?
The kids I went to school with didn't know respect. Just because they respected one man who visited for half an hour once does not show that they know any respect at all.
The only respect I got from any of them was for hospitalizing one of their friends by making him eat pavement. And you know what? He hospitalized me too. It was my third day at that school.
I again contest Don, you know naught of which you speak. After the things I saw across several different schools, I doubt there is much that will teach todays children respect besides fear. Nothing has ever harmed them, and they are impudent. I have hundreds of stories of things they did. And you've really not fired much.
"All it took to go to Germany in WWII was to be the right age for the draft at the time. All it takes to become 79 years old is to breath in and out a certain number of times. Neither is a major accomplishment worthy of accolades."
And all it takes to become another anonymous face on the internet is a 100mhz computer and a keyboard. Does this mean you should be hectored by trolls?
So what kinds of things do you think Teachers should do to earn respect then Don, with all the wisdom he needs?
Oh and in case the sarcasm didn't make it apparent, I found your post to be disrespectful and quite full of yourself. You've done nothing to earn my respect right? Why shouldn't I just taunt and tease you?
Yes. I assumed you are quite young.
Perspective, when it comes at all, takes time.