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Beck, Palin, Limbaugh: 3 Stooges of "Peaceful" Insurrection

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh say that neither they, nor Sarah Palin, had any influence on Jared Loughner's decision to commit the heinous killings in Tucson on Saturday. That could, indeed, turn out to be the case after the investigation is complete. However, that still doesn't mean that these three stooges aren't accidentally steering America towards another, second, bloody insurrection.

In 1776, in the midst of the American Revolution, Thomas Paine wrote a pamphlet titled "Common Sense". That pamphlet is largely credited with not only influencing a major increase in recruitment to the Continental Army, but also with motivating those troops to win the critical battles that that army would soon face. It was an armed conflict. It was a bloody conflict. "Common Sense" helped America win that "armed" and "bloody" conflict.

In June 2009, along comes Glenn Beck, just six months after the first African-American President is elected, re-writing a revisionist, modernized version of Paine's pamphlet, titled "Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government, Inspired by Thomas Paine".

Even though I have never read Beck's version of "Common Sense", I consider it to be the most incendiary, violence influencing book of the 21st century. Why? Because about 300 million Americans, just like me, haven't read it. All they know is that the GOP thinks that Glenn Beck is an honest man, and that Glenn Beck says America's government, under the first black president, is "out-of-control". Thomas Paine's version was a call to arms. Now, in modern times, Beck writes a revisionist version that coincides with a tour, with Sarah Palin, called the "Take Our Country Back Tour!"

"Is Glenn Beck sending us a secret coded message," the GOP must be asking itself, "is it time to mount our bayonets?"

Speaking of Sarah Palin, how about those non-incendiary 2010 midterm election surveyor maps?
The Palin camp swears that they weren't meant to be target symbols. They were meant to be surveyor symbols, they claim. But, look what Sarah twittered on March 23, 2010, just one week before the maps went public.

"Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page."

Palin might have made that excuse work, had she not Twittered this 8 months later on November 4, 2010,

"Remember months ago "bullseye" icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin' incumbent seats? We won 18 out of 20 (90% success rate;T'aint bad)"

T'aint bad, Sarah. Too bad you couldn't do it without skirting an armed Revolution - note Palin's "Commonsense" association. The problem is, that this all has the potential to wind up much less like "American Revolution II", and much more like "Civil War II". These "Stooges" are playing with catastrophic fire.

And then, there's the Maha Rushie, with his "glorious naked body" and "talent on loan from God-duh and JeeeeSUS".

Rush Limbaugh is the king daddy of fundamentalist, three stooge, conservative lunacy. From the October 26, 2010, Rush Limbaugh Show, in a segment titled, "Confused Clifford on Reverse Operation Chaos and "Tyranny":

"The tyranny of the minority is Obama. We are being ruled in this country by a minority, a very small minority. Obama and liberalism in this country represent 25 to 30% of the thinking in this country. We outnumber liberals in all these personal preference polls by two to one. Why in the world are we the ones have to act defensive about who we are? They're the ones that ought to be explaining who the hell they are and what they're doing! They're the ones destroying America, by design or by accident or who cares? That's what's happening. In many cases it is by design. But they are the ones. You know, Obama said "punish your enemies," walking out there. He's not interested in getting along with us. He's not interested in compromise or anything. He's not interested in recognizing where he's going wrong and the American people disagree with it and all that. This is... In a lot of people's minds, this is it, where the future of the country is concerned."

Sorry to have to tell you this, GOP Americans, but Limbaugh is wrong about almost everything that's going on, on Planet Earth. He's wrong, for instance, when it comes to the Constitution, the Founding Fathers, the science of global climate change, the Bible, the science of Evolution, nutritional science, exercise science, sports, and anything else he chooses to pontificate about. That's why he hides behind a caller dump button.

Then there was this, just the other day from the "pervert, perverting the Constitution". From the January 6, 2011, Rush Limbaugh Show, in a segment titled " Don't Bother Sending Your Kids to New York to be Union Stagehands":

"You mentioned Cloward-Piven. The purpose of Cloward-Pivenis to overload the welfare system. Just overload it. It can't survive. It totally crashes. Nobody has anything. You have total chaos. You have anarchy, because nobody has anything. Because without anybody working, nobody having a job, there's nothing produced and there's nothing to transfer, and nobody has anything. The people expecting to live off government largesse, there isn't anyway. The people expecting to live off Social Security, welfare, there isn't any if you take Cloward-Piven out to its natural conclusion. And during all this you have these people who say, "The government is good! It is the only good." They'll do nothing but rely on government."

Here's the question that America, even if there is no evidence that the Tucson shooting is tied to the these three wingnut ringmasters, must ask itself. While their separate, individual messages may not be "inciting" a bloody Revolution, could their combined message have that effect? Let's look at a brief, digest of what that combined message looks like.

Beck sets the stage for modern acceptable revolution:

"Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government, Inspired by Thomas Paine"

Palin advocates for the 2nd Amendment and targeting "Obamacare-lovin' incumbent seats":

"Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" . . .

"Remember months ago "bullseye" icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin' incumbent seats? We won 18 out of 20 (90% success rate;T'aint bad)"

Limbaugh ties it all together with the sounds of Armageddon:

"Just overload it. It can't survive. It totally crashes. Nobody has anything. You have total chaos. You have anarchy, because nobody has anything."

Of course, Limbaugh is saying that the blood will be on the hands of those gol darn libruls, because it is they, the gol darn libruls, that started all this with their nanny state, busy body, Obamacare.

These three clowns can kid themselves all they want. The truth is, that these three stooges may indeed be the Thomas Paine-like catalyst that stirs America to Revolution, but the idea that theirs will be an unarmed, peaceful Revolution, when it happens, is ridiculous, irresponsible, and wishful thinking.

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argon's picture

You cannot convince me that

You cannot convince me that the government is in the right when they violate the Constitution. We have the duty to get rid of any politicians that propose laws or other legislation that does violate the Constitution. After all it confirms the right that you have to write drivel.

Defender's picture

They got your revolution right here.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/becks-matthews-mocked-conspiracy-confirmed-video-of-us-communists-socialists-unions-working-with-muslim-brotherhood-assoc-groups /

"Israel, you were born by the sword, you live by the sword, and you will die by the sword."
Actually, Israel was born by UN resolution. Upon becoming a nation in 1948, they invited Palestinians to remain and be part of the future success story. Most Palestinians, angry, left. The surrounding Muslim states would not accept them, so the "refugee camps" happened, breeding grounds for misery and of course terrorism.
If individual Jews were conducting suicide bombing missions into the camps, I think the world would know. It's the other way around.
Self-defense is not a crime .

Defender's picture

Congress "not the boss of" Justice Dept. and ATF

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/02/actions-louder-than-words-eric-holder.html

An international incident is always good for scaring people away from their liberty.

Defender's picture

Are Americans as brave as Egyptians?

And as freedom-loving?
And what do you think of the "inflammatory political speech" of
a featured protestor against a 30-year dictatorship?
"We will not be silenced. Whether you are a Christian, a Muslim, or an atheist, you will fight for your goddamned rights. You will HAVE your goddamned rights!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC0NldhTZ7A

Oooh. "Fight." That's not "civility."
Another demonstrator says "For my son and I ... I will die today."
I don't think he means he's going to shoot HIMSELF or run over HIMSELF with a police armored vehicle or government tank.

Talking wasn't working. Dissent was not tolerated.
This is what happens next.

Defender's picture

More Beck "violent rhetoric"

He's warning American dabblers who embrace REAL socialists.

What Beck said, in context, was:
“Just because you in Washington and you who are so out of touch with life in the media , just because you don‘t believe in anything doesn’t mean nobody else does. We do. You know why you’re confused by this show? It’s because I believe in something. You don’t.

Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don’t. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep’s clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You’ve been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You’re going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they’re revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.”

* * *

Beck telling his audience to take up arms? As Patterico’s Pontifications says, “Nothing could be further from the truth.” NewsBusters says there’s, “nothing to the charge,” and RedState goes as far as to say, “I’m almost embarrassed for anybody gullible enough that they fell for this one.”

Funny how things change once you get the full context.

– The Blaze

Defender's picture

Ceasescu was taken out by his cronies

after the people softened him up by revolting.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/76683.html

Defender's picture

Beck criticizes Piven for lying and inciting.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/violent-riot-advocate-frances-fox-piven-invents-wild-accusations-about-the-blaze-audio /

She has and does, then denies it. Recordings prove she lies, then lies about lying.

Defender's picture

"Armenian Golgotha" memoir of genocide

"It's wartime, and bullets are expensive. So people grabbed whatever they could from their villages -- axes, hatchets, scythes, sickles, clubs, hoes, pickaxes, shovels, -- and they did the killing accordingly."
After having been "invited to participate in this sacred religious obligation."
6,400 women and children massacred by their neighbors.
"The police soldiers in Yozgat and Boghazliyan ... would even boast to some of us how they had committed tortures and decapitations, cut off and chopped up body parts with axes, and how they had dismembered suckling infants and children by pulling apart their legs or dashing them on rocks."
Testimony of a Muslim Turk to a man being taken to his own murder by government, so he saw no harm in giving details.

Defender's picture

What freedom lovers should do

As you yourself prove, it's possible to be "patriotic" without loving freedom, so I will not rise to your bait. It occurred to me that you're trolling for a death threat so you can point a finger and tell everyone how violent constitutionalists are. Again. Not to mention turning them in to the authorities using the ISP you know so well. I hope no one falls for it.
If my outline of the lethal abuses of government power have cut no ice with you, then I see no need to continue.
When they (government employees with guns and badges) come to YOUR door because their definition of YOUR rights is a LITTLE smaller than your own, remember that you had nothing to hide.

Those who favor freedom should be vigilant and they should be armed. 120 million people in the 20th Century were determined to be disposable by their own governments. They REFUSED to be members of a "cult," the cult of the omnipotent state.
If a shooting war DOES break out, those on the freedom side will have their consciences eased by the liberty-despising rhetoric of people like you. We just want self-determination. Limbaugh, Beck and Palin don't quite understand it. Limbaugh learned a LITTLE about the folly of supporting the War on Drugs and Privacy (or the government War on Anything) when he got addicted to painkillers. There's nothing like a personal experience to allow people to see the Leviathan.
So farewell and good luck in the world you are helping to create.

Defender's picture

Todd Blair of Utah had nothing to hide.

He died within five seconds of police kicking in his door because HIS FORMER ROOMMATE did.

Defender's picture

Feel the breath on the back of YOUR neck yet?

National ID Card for the internet .

Their plan is straightforward. Instead of logging onto Facebook [or opposingviews.com] or one's bank using separate passwords established with each individual company or website, the White House will take the lead in developing what it calls an "identity ecosystem" that will centralize **personal information and credentials.** This government-approved system would issue a smart card or similar device that would confirm an individual's identity when making online credit-card purchases, accessing electronic health care records, posting "anonymous" blog entries or ****even logging onto one's own home computer,**** according to administration documents.
Here is the biggest laugh of all:
Officials insist this would be a voluntary program and deliver significant benefits to the public."

-- RightSpeak.net

The Paineful Truth's picture

I understand that the National ID Card . . .

scares a lot of people. I don't buy anything on-line that I wouldn't want the government to know about, so I'm not particularly opposed to it, if it makes the world a safer place. Law enforcement already has access to our ip addresses and on-line credit information, so we're already on their "trackable" grid. This just makes it more proactive and efficient. Who knows, maybe it will save billions in law enforcement.

Defender, I'm not sure where you're heading with all of this, so do me a favor, and finish this train of thought . . .

Because of Wako, and because of this National ID business, it is time for patriotic Americans to . . . what?

Defender's picture

I will try again to appeal to your humanity

I repeat:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the Internet needs to be nationalized under net 'neutrality" because everyone needs to be heard. "We cannot ignore the problems just because we cannot ***hear the cries."***
She was proud "co-president" on April 19, 1993 when Mt. Carmel's white, black and brown men, women and children were gassed and burned after a going-in-shooting raid by feds and a 51-day SIEGE during which the residents of Mt. Carmel were totally cut off. A week after the fire, she was smiling and applauding patriotic galas at Colonial Williamsburg while Bill played 18 holes of golf a day.
And she may be our first female president.
That was 1993. But you keep saying "since Obama was elected." And "something has been removed from Rush Limbaugh's website."
Psychologists call that "idee' fixe."
I knew the concept of "blood libel" DECADES AGO. In medieval times, people rumored that Jews used the blood of kidnapped Gentile babies in satanic rituals. It made it easier to drive Jews out of town, steal their stuff and occasionally hang them or burn them at the stake.
Limbaugh says all this "civility" is a distraction to keep us from noticing gasoline price riots in Europe and the mercenary attitude of Middle East oil producing countries causing it and destroying economies. Why don't you think about THAT for a few minutes?

The Paineful Truth's picture

This is one of the results . . .

of a search on Mr. Limbaugh's website for "blood libel".

Rush's Total Stack of Stuff - 01.10.11
Jan 10, 2011 ... (The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel - Glenn Reynolds) · ( Loughner's Sickness Not the Product of Politics) ...

That's two days before the release of Palin's "blood libel" video. If you can find that segment, behind Limbaugh's "member" curtain, please, post what you find here, I'd love to know what Limbaugh said, that made Palin think that it was a good tactic to use in the wake of the Tucson tragedy.

The Paineful Truth's picture

Let's get back on track.

Why did Rush Limbaugh hide his transcripts about "blood libel" on January 10, 2011?

Answer that, and wisdom you will have America.

Defender's picture

You embarrass yourself, sir.

Mr. Chamberlin, I see a pattern of your making outrageous conflationary claims and then backing away when challenged. "That's not what I said."
You embarrass yourself, sir. You condemn conservatives for "inciting violence" based on metaphor and symbolic speech, and then do the same, and then deny doing it. Calling for censorship of people with whom you disagree and calling it "civility" is a tactic of the Nazis (short for National SOCIALISTS) and Soviet and Chinese Communists.
Your disdain for the Second Amendment proves that you have little to no understanding of the Bill of Rights and individual liberty.

Nancy Pelosi, in urging Congress to vote for more gun control in a knee-jerk reaction to the Tucson murders, referred to it as "this tragic accident."
People make mistakes.
When people make mistakes that make them look dumb, they should be forgiven. When they keep making mistakes that kill individual liberty, they should resign or be impeached.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the Internet needs to be nationalized under net 'neutrality" because everyone needs to be heard. "We cannot ignore the problems just because we cannot hear the cries."
She was proud "co-president" on April 19, 1993 when Mt. Carmel's white, black and brown men, women and children were gassed and burned.
What about hearing THEIR cries?
The week after that mass murder, she went on a vacation in Colonial Williamsburg and enjoyed wonderful patriotic displays. And now she's Secretary of State.

Mr. Chamberlin, you are a word-twisting weasel.

The Paineful Truth's picture

If it is okay, with you . . .

I'll decide when I'm embarrassed?

Waco was a terrible tragedy, but it's a totally differrent paradigm than the paradigm of "The Three Stooges of 'Peaceful' Insurrection". The Wako Siege involved a Cult. Do we have a "Cult" in this scenario, Defender?

Who belonged to that Cult? The victims in Tucson? Jarred Loughner? The three stooges of "peaceful" insurrection?

Wait one darn minute, Defender! Are you suggesting that Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh, belong to some sort of religious Cult?

In not, I don't understand why you're injecting the "Wako Siege" into this discussion?

Defender's picture

Seventh-Day Adventists will be surprised to learn they are a "cult"

An offshoot of Seventh-Day Adventists, Mr. Chamberlin. They kept to themselves. They committed no crimes, they made little impression on their neighbors. White, black and Latino people lived together -- until someone thought they heard machinegun fire from the Davidian practice range. The ATF needed a righteous bust after their racist "Good Ol' Boy Roundup," with signs at the gate reading "N*gger Checkpoint" and "How many n*ggers in that car?"
You forgot to mention the meth lab EXCUSE retroactively introduced by the feds after the place burned to the ground. No evidence was found.
By the way, the feds and the military injected CS tear gas through holes punched in the walls by Combat Engineering Vehicles, a kind of tank with a crane instead of a gun turret. CS gas is banned for use in war because it is flammable in indoor concentrations.
Then there was the child molestation retroactive excuse, though local authorities had no record of any complaints.
Are YOU saying it is all right to eradicate people with unorthodox beliefs? The Nazis said if you tell a lie big enough, people won't question it. They believed in really Big Government, like you do. The Romans considered Christianity a "cult." You're familiar with the martyrdom operations at the Colosseum, perhaps? Would you have cheered for the lions and tigers and bears?
My point was that it's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. I'm AMAZED that you seized on this "cult" idea instead of expressing ANY compassion whatsoever for the many, many victims of government agents' prejudices and/or ineptitude.

The Paineful Truth's picture

"Waco was a terrible tragedy" . . .

is how I began that post. And, I'll repeat it, with repititious emphasis. Waco was a terrible, terrible, terrible tragedy.

David Koresh/Vernon Howell's own mother described Koresh's group as a "cult" in her own autobiography. I think that clears the way for me to class it as such.

And, I'm still really surprised that you want to do a connect-the-dots thing between Koresh's followers, and the fans of Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh. Let's both hope that we never see another "Wako" because of the Beck/Palin/Limbaugh modernized "Common Sense" movement.

Have you read Beck's version of "Common Sense" Defender? I have, now. It's a call to arms, in the name of the Lord. Scary stuff.

The Paineful Truth's picture

Doh!

"In not"??? What the . . . ?

My concluding statement should have read . . . "If not, I don't understand why you're injecting the "Wako Siege" into this discussion?"

Sorry Defender, I didn't mean to distract you. Have at me!

The Paineful Truth's picture

Try historically acurate quotes.

"a sample quote from George Washington" - stockball

I'm afraid you've relied on one of those fake quotes that are rapant on the internet . Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to source that quote.

You guys crack me up.

The Paineful Truth's picture

A little late LagerHead

"Until you read Beck's work you come off as an ignorant ass hat. You don't know what in it and you don't what 300 million people are going to take from it." - LagerHead

I got this criticism, first day. So, guess what I did? I downloaded Beck's version of "Common Sense" to my Kindle. Just finished it. I stand by article, and then some. I find it so revisionist, that I plan to deal with it, in detail. Good grief, LagerHead, Glenn Beck is the Anti-Paine.

SolarSanitizer's picture

I notice that you ignored the rest of his post.

Shall we take it that you agree with him, then?

http://www.opposingviews.com/comments/take-your-own-advice

The Democratic National Committee approves of this website.

Joseph Wales's picture

Hahahaha!

Even though I have never read Michael"The talentless hack" Chamberlin's articles, I consider them to be the most ignorant, prejudice- inspiring book of the 21st century.

Without reading the rest, I can tell that this fellow has the mind of a child, minus the innocent charm.

Grow up, son.

The Paineful Truth's picture

Talentless Hack here . . .

Well, in response to the second comment to this thread, I have now read Beck's revisionist "Common Sense" nonsense. I stand by by every word in the article, and your resorting to ad hominem argument, is the first sign of concession.

While Beck never makes an overt call for "bloody" insurrection, he spends a good part of a chapter worshipping the sanctity of the 2nd Amendment, and pleading with America to stay locked, loaded, and petrified of his percieved liberal/progressive boogieman (The Obama Administration).

The books contents are just as dangerous as the cover, title, and tagline.

Defender's picture

Guns again? No one need fear, except tyrants

I know we have a "Constitution fetish" and an obsession with our guns , but no one's trying to take our power drills and lawnmowers, just 50% or more of our earnings, our free speech, our ability to travel unMOLESTED, our children's future prosperity, and our ability to say no to oppression in any meaningful way.
Bee have stingers, bears have size and fangs and claws, cheetahs have speed, lizards have camouflage coloring. PEOPLE have none of that, but they have the brainpower to invent tools that make them the equal of someone who seeks to dominate them. At a time when the entire rest of the world has gone collectivist and the individual's worth has declined, we reserve that choice.
That's all it is. Gadsden Flag language. Don't Tread On Us, and no one gets bitten.

Joseph Wales's picture

confession

is good for the soul. I'm glad that you admit to being a talentless hack. Now, don't you feel better?

The Paineful Truth's picture

I'm almost certain . . .

that the people that are intelligent enough to disagree with Mr. Beck, understood that the title of that post, was tongue-in-cheek. Just sayin'.

Joseph Wales's picture

I wonder ,

if they are intelligent enough to read a book before they review it. If they are, then they have surpassed you.

The Paineful Truth's picture

You could always attempt . . .

an intellectual challenge to the assertions made in the article. Or, then again, you can just hope that your weak ad hominem argument suffices.

Joseph Wales's picture

ok, I'll try

Even though reasoning with a moron goes against my better judgement.

Try this on. tell me what you think of it.

"Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place."

Would you agree with that? or would you disagree?

The Paineful Truth's picture

I'm not all that familiar with Bastiat's works . . .

but I, personally, do not agree with that statement. I somehow doubt that pre-societal hominid species, like Cro Magnon, would agree with Bastiat either.

Joseph Wales's picture

So,

You don't believe that life existed before law? or liberty? Or property?

or do you disagree with the idea that the fact that it did exist necessitated laws to begin with?

What exactly are you disagreeing with?

And do you suppose that the cave men were not free? That they didn't recognize their own right to live?

It seems you are jumping ahead, trying to derail the train of reason. morons and hacks always try this.

The Paineful Truth's picture

Why, oh why . . .

did Rush Limbaugh pull his "Stack of Stuff" from his January 10, 2011 show?

Why doesn't the Maha Rushie want America to know that he discussed "blood libel" just days before Palin used the argument in her recent video?

Olderman's picture

Indignation as a defense....

The essential core of both your initial article and your responses is one of accusation. Put someone on the defensive with any number of accusations and he or she will spend the rest of their life defending themselves.

Your accusation of Mr. Limbaugh and Mrs. Palin using the term "blood libel" should be embraced. The 'accusation' of firearms metaphors as a link to what a murderer did is at best ignorant and at worst small and mean.

By the way. I am a student of history. What Mr. Beck has shown on his series *is* accurate.

The Paineful Truth's picture

They will embrace . . .

their "blood libel" argument, it's their nature not to draw down and admit a mistake. In the end, I don't think it will work to Palin's advantage, but we'll see.

On Beck's distortion of history, the list is endlless. That's not what this article is about, though, and I plan to do a detailed cover of his distortions in "Common Sense", now that I have read it. Here's just one, that repeats incessantly on his "series".

"Nature's God" - the "God" referred to in the Declaration of Independence. Beck constantly infers that the Founding Fathers were referring to the Judeo-Christian "God" of the Bible. By doing so, he infers that it is NOT the god "Allah" from the Quran.

Neither is the case. Jefferson and the other "primary" Founding Fathers were Deists, referring to the "God" that they believed in, the providential "Nature's God" of Deism. They were not atheists, but they weren't Christians either. Beck is kerfuffling the truth.

Olderman's picture

Hmmmm.....

"...I plan to do a detailed cover of his distortions in "Common Sense"..."

It will be a pleasure to read what you have to say.

Olderman's picture

You're quibbling......

You are taking the limits of language and trying to build a picture which is limiting by design.

The founder's were deeply religious; without regard to each one's method of worship. You are focusing on the methods each used to express his faith to confuse and distort the deep faith of each. If you truly wish to view the roots - breadth and depth - of the founder's faith, philosophy and sources(plural) of law, you only need to view the carvings, bas reliefs and statues attendant to the supreme court building: including Muhammad - among many others.

The founder's did not mention all in specific writings simply because of the cumberness of doing so. The founder's left the mention of all to the education of the reader.

stockball's picture

a sample quote from George Washington

"It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible" - note that he didn't say Quran. And if you make the effort you find plenty of these kinds of references from our founding fathers. You don't have to agree with them, and I won't argue that Deism was significantly present particularly in Jeffersonian thinking...but there were many founders who believed in the God of the Bible.

The Paineful Truth's picture

Will the GOP make "Zeitgeist . . .

Moving Forward" a smash hit? Got to watch those unintended consequenses.

"He loved Zeigest. Do you know what political aisle that is up?" - J-Jammer

My op-ed is not really about the Tucson tragedy, it's about the toxic stoogified atmosphere that could be "accidentally" steering America towards insurrection. (Yes, I made up 'stoogified').

That "toxic stoogified atmosphere" has been created, and perpetuated, by the national voices of people like Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh.

I'm not going to get into discussion of the Zeitgeist film, in here, but the film's director has made a statement about the Tucson tragedy, I'll let him speak for himself:
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/tucson.html

It would appear that Joseph's follow-up movie is going to get a lot of pre-release notice, courtesy of conservative media . Who'd a thunk?

Defender's picture

"Rock" the vote. With real rocks.

For those not big on following links, Alec Baldwin said if this were some other countries, "We'd stone congressman Henry Hyde to death. Then we'd go to his house and stone his wife and children to death too."
And NPR's Nina Totenberg said she wished Jesse Helms of North Carolina would get AIDS .
I'm sure they both MEANT "vote him out." Right? Though I've never heard of "voting out" the wife and kids.
I don't remember any big protest from the Left about these actual incitements to murder.

Defender's picture

Another

big government victory over the Fourth Amendment, that is.

Defender's picture

over FourAnother big government victoryth Amendment .

The Supreme Court has ruled that police OUTSIDE a building can, if they suspect flushing or other destruction of evidence INSIDE, break and enter without a warrant. If they smell marijuana and then hear a toilet flush, boom, crash.
Or DON'T hear a toilet flush. Some are silent, especially those mandatory low-flow ones.
But, you know, if you have nothing to hide, why object to the cops essentially having a key? Right, Mr. Chamberlin?

http://www.macon.com/2011/01/12/1407754/case-of-the-wrong-door-opens-at.html

Defender's picture

Three liberal stooges

Your name is Chamberlin, a variation of chamberlain, "the officer in charge of managing the household of a sovereign or other noble figure."
If that is not your profession, shouldn't you change your name? If we're going to take every word literally...

Before the election, an overconfident and out of touch Obama said "We'll be driving the bus. We'll let the Republicans along for the ride, but they're going to have to sit in back."
Do you call that "getting along"?
H. Clinton said "We're going to take what you have, for the good of everyone."
Nancy Pelosi said "You have to pass the healthcare reform bill so you can find out what's in it."
Taking THOSE three stooges together, one COULD infer that Limbaugh and Beck and Sarah Palin are just the teensiest bit correct.

Before you even ask: I HAVE voted for a Democrat, when I determined that that Democrat had a better understanding of Bill of Rights liberty than the Republican opponent.
You bring race into the discussion by calling Obama a BLACK president. I would vote for a black, brown or purple presidential candidate who understood and respected, again, individual liberty and the Bill of Rights. Obama doesn't, and I didn't. He's the most Socialist president since Bill Clinton. The Bush I and II and Clinton administrations built on each other to make America a Third World power instead of a world superpower. Even Reagan wasn't Reagan. I doubt you're young enough to remember prosperous, clean downtowns with no empty storefronts with shattered windows. No police in military uniforms with submachine guns and hard eyes standing on streetcorners. No cameras on lamp posts and roofs recording everything you do.
You could effing BREATHE without a permit.
You've been had.

J-Jammer's picture

What does

a Black President have to do anything?

Oh, because you say it should...you make something matter that doesn't matter.

And saying "Oh it may not be their fault" you mean to say, "Well it might not be their fault, but I'll blame them anyway" --- bad, bad truth seeker.

He loved Zeigest. Do you know what political aisle that is up?

Did you do any research before you wrote what you did?

Common Sense didn't HELP fight the American Revolution. It pushed the colonist to WANT to fight the American Revolution. It was needed to jump start it.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid. - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

The Paineful Truth's picture

False quote . . .

I did not blame them for Tucson. I clearly said that their influence, after the investigation was complete, might not be involved in this specific incident. Their "non-involvement" in this incident, however, does not change the volatile pseudo, weirdo, religion cloaked, "Common Sense" targeting of evil, bwah..ha..ha... Librulism, that these three stooges have orchestrated since President Obama was elected.

Your non-quote of me (below), isn't a quote at all:
"And saying 'Oh it may not be their fault'".

And your attempt to paraphase it (below), isn't even an accurate paraphrase:
"Well it might not be their fault, but I'll blame them anyway".

You're doing exactly what you CLAIM that MediaMatters is guilty of. Still anxiously awaiting YOUR examples of THEM misquoting someone.

LagerHead's picture

How about outright lying?

When Palin mistakenly referred to our "North Korean allies," after which she immediately corrected herself, it made headlines in just about every "librul" media outlet. So of course Palin defended herself. Media Matters then jumped on her saying "major American newspaper(s) did not turn the Palin/North Korea gaffe into a 'major political headline,' did not treat it as news, and did not even mention it as news when it occurred .”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/24/sarah-palin-north-korea_n_788107.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah-palin-north-korea-gaffe-glenn-beck-show/story?id=12242889

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20023899-503544.html

Now while I certainly don't consider the HUFFington Post, ABC, or CBS news, I know many "libruls" (Don't you like how I can misspell words too?) do consider them authoritative sources of cra...er, news.

Your turn.

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