Basic Research has Specific Aims

Revelations? I didn't say it's a secret that these three propaganda groups work together. Of course they openly support each other. Duh. The links you gave are the exact same ones I used.

AMP is a propaganda peddler for the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, it is a front group. Common knowledge. Recall in a post on April 10, 2010 at 8:43AM Dario's reply to my comment: "False, I have no connection whatsoever to the pharmaceutical industry."

And your link of the "explanation" of Jentsch's, ahem, research is less than credible because your source is Dario's organization, Speaking of Research. Notice that's why I quoted another expert, Dr. Vernon Coleman, instead of Dr. Greek. But everybody who wants to learn more can read Dr. Greek's books to get a comprehensive view that isn't limited by the constraints of an online forum.

All I gotta say is I wish Dario and Jentsch would properly debate Dr. Greek live. There's no good excuse not to do so--unless, of course, it's just fear of what will be revealed.

Not one original comment from any of you boys. I'm disappointed. Straight out of the vivisector's playbook, Dario. You're more potent than an economy -size bottle of Nytol. At least come up with a new script.

You keep saying you don't get paid by AMP, Speaking of Research, and Pro-Test for Science, U.S. Did I say you were? Nope. Am I saying you're a pitchman peddling their propaganda of faux science ? Yes. You are a co-founder of Pro-Test (U.S.) http://www.pro-test-for-science.org/committee.html and you serve on the committee of Speaking of Research. And these two front groups are allies with the front group AMP. The ringleader over at Pro-Test (U.S.) appears to be the notorious J. David Jentsch, the mad scientist whose idea of legit research is to turn primates into junkies. http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/ar-jentsch (My apologies for the terrifying photo of Jentsch.)

Dario, here's the real issue you keep trying to dodge. Dr. Vernon Coleman can say it better than me:

I have been opposed to vivisection for many years; not just because it is unbelievably barbaric and unforgivably cruel but also because it is worthless, wasteful, inaccurate, uninformative and dangerously misleading.

The cruelty is indefensible and an affront to human dignity, but in a desperate attempt to justify their evil practices many vivisectors still claim that what they do helps save human lives. They are lying. The truth is that animal experiments kill people and animal researchers are responsible for the deaths of thousands of men, women and children every year; they are also directly responsible for a massive amount of human suffering.

The callous self-interest of vivisectors leads directly to the development and marketing of unsafe drugs and medical practices; there is without a shadow of doubt a conspiracy between the medical profession and the drugs industry to defend and protect a practice which has as much relevance to science as alchemy.

A future, more enlightened world will see vivisection as one of the more obscene and inexplicable practices of our age; it is our equivalent of slavery and cruel colonialism and those who fail to condemn it loudly will be branded as being as guilty as the vivisectors themselves by tomorrow's generations.

Animal experiments are done for personal and commercial gain by people who are driven by greed and vanity. But although the vivisectors may be cruel, unthinking and unimaginative they are not entirely without cunning. They realize that their best chance of continuing with their work is to persuade the public that the work they do does have a value. And so they lie. And because they are backed by huge international corporations which are as frightened as they are wealthy, the lies are presented in a convincing and polished way. They terrorize and blackmail ordinary citizens by warning them that if animal experiments are stopped their children will die. It is crude and dishonest but it is often effective.

“When it comes to basic research using animals , there must be a very good justification for the work , the species and number of animals used. Mere curiosity is not a good justification.” – darioringach

It does not take me long at all to be able to find ample evidence to support this statement. I found the following links in about 15 seconds, one for Canada and one for the U.S.:

http://www.research.utoronto.ca/for-researchers-administrators/ethics/animals-in-research /

http://www.research.olemiss.edu/compliance/IACUC/laws_policies_guidelines

It does not take long to find that there provisions for alleviating pain. Here is a listing of the US Regulations and Guidelines Regarding Recognition and Alleviation of Pain in Laboratory Animals:

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12526&page=159 #

Bamboozle is a word better reserved for application to the AR agenda, which has more false fronts than a Hollywood movie set.

Why not discuss Dario's research ? If Dario has won (loud chuckle) the Nobel Prize, it'd be relevant to this discussion. And it's totally pertinent that we know details about Dario's research. After all, he's advocating vivisection.

http://www.all-creatures.org/saen/ca/res-fr-ca-ucla-grant-ringach-2007.html
Would you want any of this done to you?

What did Dario learn from ramming metal into the eyeballs of primates anyway?
Hint: It's unethical.

http://www.primatefreedom.com/uclaringachlied.shtml
Dario or Pinocchio? Can you trust him?

Vivisection isn't ethical. And it sure isn't science .

Don't forget, folks... Americans for Medical Progress (loud chuckle), Speaking of Research (where Dario serves on its committee, which is why he plugs it at the end of his post here), and Pro-Test for Science, U.S. (co-founded by Dario) are just shabby front groups for the pharmaceutical, animal testing , and lab animal breeding industries.

The propaganda machine chugs along, trying to pick up momentum. Dario scrambles to grease the tracks best he can for the big old gravy train.