Should Marriage for Same Sex Couples be Legal?

Should Marriage for Same Sex Couples be Legal?

The tide of marriage for same-sex couples has ebbed and flowed over the last decade with no end in sight. Because marriage sits squarely at the intersection of religion, law and society, the discussion around same-sex couples’ inclusion into the institution of marriage has been one of the most complex and hotly contested topics in America.

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  • QuinceyQuick
    The facts are these...

    "The fact is that there is no non-partisan social science research supporting the notion that all children need is two parents, regardless of sex. None. And there is no study anywhere comparing outcomes of children raised from birth by either two men or two women with children raised from birth by their own biological parents."

    Argumentum ad ignorantiam at its finest.

    Just because we currently have no evidence does not disprove the hypothesis.

    - QuinceyQuickUS January 25, 2009 2:19PM

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  • sodaklt
    Children..who does the best job raising them?

    Ahhhh, to "protect" the children from the horrible life of same sex "PARENTS" and families, I know thats not what was said, but rather inferred. Children ALWAYS do best when they have the influence of both male and female HEALTHY role models, when they feel safe and secure, valued and loved, when their family isn't being put up to (mostly) Christian flogging of going to hell, being called perverts, pediophiles and watching the tv ads that show other people they don't know trying to "protect" them from that person who reads to them at night. ALL of my same sex FEMALE friends who have children also have the healthy male role models in their childs life, to balance what they cannot be, lets get real. HOWEVER just because 2 women will never be anything other than, DOES NOT mean the child will suffer. Marriage, 50% divorce rate, so if a child is all happy and carefree, getting the BEST of mom and dad, oh wait how good could it have been if the child was/is living in an enviornment where mommy and daddy are beginning the steps towards divorce, the child has to live with it while it's happening, watch it, hear it and feel it. Face it it doesn't happen over night so how long has the child been exposed? And divorce...50% is an extremely high rate so how does that show mommy and daddy have something special called marriage? Lets see...and then there's the same sex parents who actually give birth or adopt. No "whoops" there, it's planned out, saved for and wanted. That child is sooo loved before they even arrive, and if indeed they adopted, who's child was it? Probably some lesbian out there trying to sabotage numbers of hetrosexual throw away babies that come from that precious gift of reproduction that's taken for granted and has no real value, just like the life that was created in a careless moment and given away, (but thank you for not aborting!).Children...and on this note, WHY are yours so much better than mine? WHY does my child HAVE to sit in PUBLIC school and be taught about your family and never see their family reflected in the teachings? WHY are you dictating to our children their lessons? Oh thats right...YOU have all the rights, yours are the only ones that count, what would happen if indeed YOUR child was teased, bullied and taunted every day and then committed suicide? Ohhhh, heads would role, but hey when its the child of a same sex couple or just a young person who discovers they are gay, it's ok? So children, I think same sex couples and families do a better job as they teach their children respect for ALL, compassion, empathy(we've been there) and to not judge or discriminate, most I know are faith based, just not fanatical based or the corporate organized religion type. Children are children, leave them out of this ADULT battle, you take care of yours and we'll take care of ours. We talk about the day at school, lessons learned and we discuss OUR family values in relation to, what do YOU do? The school is not where we turn to for our childrens life lessons and beliefs, your child won't poison mine with your values or beliefs, actually it's more info for my child to make INFORMED choices as they grow with guidance from us.

    - sodakltUS May 14, 2009 7:14PM

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  • GermyJ
    Evidence?

    "In contrast, there is a mountain of non-partisan social science research supporting the growing consensus among family scholars that children do best when raised by their own mother and father, and that the best odds for that happening is for the mother and father to be married."

    So link that evidence. Put up or shut up. The way I see it, Lambda cited direct quotes and linked to more than one national organization that supports their position and provides evidence. And ADF just asserts those groups are all partisan without showing evidence of such... and says they have evidence that they do not site... i wonder who is BSing us?

    - GermyJUS June 2, 2009 3:11PM

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  • Hope7
    I am a single mother and its just not fair to the children

    Single parent homes are not fair to children but ssm is even worse if you ask me. My children are growing up without a male influence, yet I take them to places where there is positive male influences ie church , ball games etc. The only thing worse than this scenerio would be to confuse them further with two mommies.
    Gender Identity Crisis, is nothing to laugh at, it is a serious psychological disorder that some never fully recover from and ssm would cause more of this disorder, like children need more trauma.
    I back this up with the following expert advice:
    http://www.narth.com/docs/breiner2.html
    http://www.narth.com/docs/drphil09.html

    This is just sick and we as parents need to stop up to the plate here and put our feet down and say, LEAVE OUR CHILDREN ALONE!
    QUOTE
    It's time to root out the imposition of gendered behavior stereotypes from all aspects of our lives. Ending gender oppression means encouraging our children to experiment with alternative gender expressions...

    - Nancy Nangeroni, a transsexual activist quoted in Transgender Warriors

    It is fundamental that individuals have the right to define, and to redefine as their lives unfold, their own gender identity, without regard to chromosomal sex, genitalia, assigned birth sex, or initial gender role.
    - From The International Bill of Gender Rights, approved by the International Conference on Transgender Law and Employment Policy, 1993
    END QUOTE. ENTIRE ARTICLE AT http://www.narth.com/docs/york.html

    As a single parent I recommend this Redeeming the Rainbow. book: http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09b/Redeeming_rainbow/index.html
    We can and will protect our children from this inflicted mental duress with Gds help.

    - Hope7US July 22, 2009 12:05PM

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