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(Opinion) Gun Laws in Montana & Tennessee Defy Constitution

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Gun Laws in Montana & Tennessee Defy Constitution

You keep pushing...

When the Federal gov keeps pushing, not only the states, but the people, into areas they do not want to go via socialistic and unConstitutional means, then, yes, the states and the people are going to push back. When will you #$%*&@^ idiots get that? We have had enough. We will not be pushed further to the left.

- moby clarke November 2, 2009 8:41PM

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- The left?
  
  RE: "We will not be pushed further to the left."
  
  The right to keep and bear arms is very much a liberal concept. Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, et al, were NOT conservatives.
  
  Throughout history, real liberals own guns . The basic concept is that government , by its nature, is corruptive of liberty and, that freedom may only be preserved through the exercise of raw force. The right to keep and bear arms is necessary to secure a state of being free.
  
  What has become skewed is the perception of right v. left or con v. lib. Those who seek to disarm the people are NOT liberals. The sole purpose of disarming the people is to not only preserve the status quo, but to shift all power to government, creating a new normal.
  
  The NRA never did get it right. When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. There has never been a time when disarming the people has not been a prelude to tyranny.
  
  No discourtesy intended, but I would respectfully suggest you re-evaluate your perception of pop culture tags and look at what's real and what is illusion.
  
  An interesting statistic that is rarely mentioned is that the vast majority of NRA members are Democrats . Personally, I hate Ds & Rs about equally, but never the less find the statistic worthy of note. Things aren't always what they seem.
  
  - Don Earl November 2, 2009 10:03PM
  
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  - Liberals & Conservatives.
    
    Those terms have been tarnished by the talking heads, true, but the words have had their meanings changed over time by our pop culture which is prevalent over real education . Sadly so.
    
    I've come across several far-left people who admit that they agree on everything that's far-left: No death penalty , only prisons ; no nuclear power plants; only ethanol, no drilling ; full-on gun control . Just as a few examples. But that is just brainwashing from the media leading them towards a specific agenda as those people usually never deviate from the Democratic Party's ideas.
    
    I consider myself a liberal but I'm also a gun owner. Other so-called "liberals" might assume I'm a right-wing whack-job because I own guns , because it's what they've been told to believe. At the same time I risk alienation from the right because I believe gays should be allowed to marry and/or adopt and because I support marijuana decriminalization .
    
    The problem with being in the middle is there aren't too many friends here when the bases of each party are so polarized.
    
    - m46607 November 3, 2009 3:43AM
    
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    - I appreciate your position
      
      Most days, I'd probably consider myself to be slightly left of center. In the current political climate, that either makes me a wild eyed lefty or a right wing radical, depending on who's talking.
      
      The issues that supposedly define the right and left these days are so varied, it's hard for me to imagine the kind of person able to adopt one view or the other across the board.
      
      The real hoot is those who identify right and left with Democrat and Republican. I'd encourage anyone who has fallen into that falacy to visit the official websites of both parties and carefully review their respective platforms. Those who actually do so, rather than discounting what I say out of hand, are in for a big surprise.
      
      Neither party has a platform. Don't take my word for it, look it up yourself. Neither party stands for anything. They are anything they want to be after obtaining power through the exercise of franchise by a dumbed down America casting votes in favor of smoke and mirrors.
      
      - Don Earl November 3, 2009 2:17PM
      
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  - Thomas Jefferson
    
    Was liberal, but he was not a fan of Democracy. The problem is when liberals are always assumed to be Democrats and conservatives are always assumed to be Republicans.
    
    - m46607 November 3, 2009 3:45AM
    
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    - Walks like a duck...
      
      Democrats are usually liberals, and Republicans are usually conservative.
      
      It is really easy to make such an assumption, and when one does, they are usually right.
      
      - SolarSanitizer November 3, 2009 8:42AM
      
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  - "Was" a liberal concept.
    
    I appreciate the rant against such trivialities as pop culture. I agree that ideological lines have been blurred. That said, I would like to point out that perception /IS/ reality. Regardless of why present day labels such as liberal and conservative tend to encompass certain stances on certain issues, the fact remains that they do encompass those issues, whether we like it or not. Since voters that align themselves solidly with one stance or the other outnumber voters who pick their issues as they come, the power is in the majority- In this case, the power is held by the 'brainwashed'.
    
    This being the case, and liberals tending to favor gun-control over personal freedom, I find it correct to lambaste the liberal stance on the gun-control debate, regardless of what Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, et al, thought on the matter. I also find it unfortunate that modern liberals shy away from adopting a pro- second amendment stance.
    
    As a side note, I'd like to point out that those who seek to disarm /ARE/ liberals. I think you incorrectly opined that they are not. To help prove my argument here, I need only point to the authors of the legislation which seeks to control guns , past and present. They are liberals, and usually Democrats .
    
    - SolarSanitizer November 3, 2009 8:40AM
    
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