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Yes, and because
Yes, because we love each other. And because we want to be able to protect our children with ALL the same rights of marriage with which straight people are able to to protect their children. These are CIVIL rights, attached to CIVIL marriage, and were created by society as a safety-net available to citizens of this nation in exchange for making commitments to care for one's spouse and children, thereby relieving society of some of the risk it faces.
Many of the rights and benefits of marriage are specifically for the benefit and protection of children, and many gay families DO have children. Denial of basic civil rights to such families is a punishment to the children of gay parents simply because of who their parents are. This is not the kind of society we subscribe to in this country.
- Babaroni
February 8, 2009 8:47PM
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No,and because
It is not right it is not the way it should be or it wouldn't be a problem men are suppose to be with women and women with men otherwise it wouldn't be a taboo. But regraurdless of who is right or wrong the day will we will all find out for sure and then it'll be too late for the Gay's of the world I know my son brings a men homei'll disown him and shooot his whatever u call them.
- popabear
November 4, 2009 9:45AM
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Keep talking
Keep talking, popabear, and show the world what bigotry looks like. You're doing a great job of it.
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November 4, 2009 9:58AM
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get ur facts right!!!!
Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race , or religion : intolerance, prejudice. See like/dislike.
This is what bigotry means and I never said I dislike queers,gay's or whatever you like to call them big mouth I just said it wasn't right and I did not approve of there belief and I will condemn it in my household because I can Wanna be gay fine just not in my house and if it isn't wrong why was it hidden from population for so long yes yes I know it goes waY back in history but as far back in histry as it goes so is someone tring to hide it.
- popabear
November 4, 2009 11:27AM
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Other than
Other than threatening to shoot your son 's hypothetical gay partner, you mean? No, that's not hateful. That's not intolerant or prejudiced. Not at all.
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Nope
No I do not I give everyone a fair chance to prove themselves as people not labels but at the same time detest anyone who screws with my plans and, and my plans are for my son to give me grandchildren ( blood kin ) so anyone who goes against that or any other plans that I have is an enemy and will be dealt as such.
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November 4, 2009 11:58AM
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Your son
Your son can still give you "blood kin" grandchildren, even if he is gay. I am gay, and I gave birth to my children . Men who are gay frequently father children by the same means used by couples with infertility, and raise them.
The problem for you is that, if your son turns out to be gay, he will know exactly how you feel, and, though he may very well father your grandchildren, he will very likely not let you anywhere near them or his spouse. So you will lose not only your son, but your grandchildren, as well. How very sad for you.
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November 4, 2009 1:02PM
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They don't get it...
Homosexuality is a perversion from the norm. Perhaps we should let pedophiles have their way? Or Necrophiliacs have their way? MANSA claim they love sex with boys, so lets just let all perversions be accepeted! In the name of love of course... that makes it all OK!
- Argenious November 4, 2009 5:49PM
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quite different
Homosexuality may not be the sexual orientation of the majority, but it is hardly a perversion.
As to the standard claim about paedophilia and homosexuality ... you are aware that most paedophiles are heterosexual?
Paedophilia differs from homosexuality in one very important respect... by definition paedophilia requires a non-consenting partner (as minors cannot consent to sexual activity), homosexuality does not share that requirement.
- MrBook
November 4, 2009 7:43PM
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You are mistaken
Pedophilia is the abnormal sexual attraction to children , not a sexual act... has nothing to do with consent.
Normal: In accordance with scientific laws; Conforming with or constituting a norm or standard or level or type or social norm; not abnormal, et al...
Abnormal: Not normal; not typical or usual or regular or conforming to a norm; not conforming to the natural course of...
Homosexuality and pedophilia are abnormal sexual behaviours.
You need a refresher course in Human Sexuality 101.
- CitizenZebra
November 4, 2009 8:29PM
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Thanks
I really had no idea what the hell that other person was going on about but you cleared it up perfectly thanks for enlighting me.
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November 5, 2009 11:14AM
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laws?
"Pedophilia is the abnormal sexual attraction to children , not a sexual act... has nothing to do with consent."
We are not talking about those who just think, but those who are putting their desires into action.
Homosexuality does not violate any scientific laws, but with lets look at some other things that are unnatural... Blue eyes are abnormal, left handedness is abnormal, living in Ohio is abnormal, liking Carolina style BBQ is abnormal, having a PhD is abnormal.
By defining abnormal as 'something that deviates from the statistical norm' it expands to encompass a huge range of human activities... losing it's negative connotation.
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November 5, 2009 6:46PM
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All I can say to you...
you don't seem to be able to stay connected to a definition, you rather make up your own as you go. Illogical and irrational is the best way to describe your comments! You are arguing your opinion rather than facts.
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November 5, 2009 8:28PM
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wrong
Pay particular attention to CZ's explanation, he is absolutely correct.
- Argenious November 4, 2009 8:32PM
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The subjects of sexual deviancy...
always have an argument that it is OK, normal, acceptable etc. Probably the most significant cause for the aversion to homosexuality are displays like "Gay Pride", the parades on the streets of Frisco where radical nudity and simulated sex acts by homosexuals are publicly displayed.
- Argenious November 5, 2009 7:58AM
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