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Schools and mandating pro-gay teaching
Um...
Just exactly WHERE are the deception and lies and religious zealotry...other than you just claiming that they are there? Also, I read absolutely NOTHING that incites hate and much less violence. Just because your feelings are hurt doesn't make anything you said true. It's exactly people like you who absolutely cannot stand for someone to oppose you who will stop at nothing to silence us. Bad news...it's not gonna happen. WE are the majority...deal with it!
- Leigh Healy
June 8, 2009 10:36PM
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Schools and mandating pro-gay teaching.
I don't like to argue with drunks, and you're drunk on religion . It's more worse for you than a bottle of gin!
"[P]eople like you." Spoken like a true hate filled zealot!
"W[e] are the majority...deal with it!" Are you attempting to persuade me, or are you beating your fists on your chest like an ape?
The right hand of god christianist Klan is proving to be horrible role models for children ! You would poison their minds with homophobia in an attempt to insult us, but it isn't us that you are harming!
- FlexSF
June 9, 2009 12:01AM
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Rediculous
You are a typical liberal. Any opinion that doesn't agree with yours is branded hate speech . Anyone with a religious belief is branded a wacko and extreme. Yes, there are some religous wackos, but the vast majority of Americans identify themselves as Christian.
We have the right to teach our kids right from wrong. It is becoming increasingly difficult with mandated leftist agendas being forced into our kids' heads against our wishes. Schools should not be in the business of teaching social issues, because there are too many opposing views. Shools should teach things that have no moral opinions injected into them...period.
- kong99
June 10, 2009 1:42PM
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This is the reason
...that in one generation christian values will be halved in the US. As in - the new generation will abandon these values, or change them to suit their understanding of the world.
You can throw tantrums about it all you want - premarital sex, drug use , masturbation, buddism, anal sex, outer space, evolution , neurological reductionism, gravity, job outsourcing, nanoreplication, relativity, evokution, quarks - and yes, functional evolved homosexual behavior - these all exist and will not go away no matter how you whine about them.
But what is more irksome about murcans whining and bleating about values, is the dichotomy (whine-fest) cultivated back and forth. The "left" is largely in apathy, the "right" keeps on moaning and griping about issues that have been settled a generation ago. If you don't like it - the US constitution allows states to secede. So go ahead, form your own lttle "new iran " paradise before you thrust that mess you call a country in a civil war.
Or else stop whining your values onto the society you are part of.
- Khannea Suntzu
June 12, 2009 1:47AM
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What?
What the hell are you talking about? I'm not bitching about gays, drug use , masturbation, or anything else you claim I am. I said we have the right to teach our kids the morals we hope to see them have as they get older, and that the public school sytem should not be in the business of undermining our efforts to push their own moral agendas (or lack of).
I am not religious, and I am not for pushing prayer on all students. I am against the schools pushing any moral propaganda that contradicts what parents may be teaching their kids.
To give you a better idea, would you like it if the schools started mandating classes that teach that being gay is abnormnal and disgusting? No, I don't think you would, and you would have every right not to want that to happen. Then why is it that the inverse is perfectly ok with you because it fits your beliefs?
I'm not bashing gays, and I'm not saying they should be banned or anything like that. I'm just saying keep the agenda out of the schools. Schools should not be trying to replace parenthood or to override parents.
Finally, you make it sound like the people who thing homosexuality is immoral are in the extreme minority and that we are in the dark ages. I've got news for you, polls have shown that the majority of people nationwide believe it's immmoral. So you can take your progressive "I'm better than you" attitude and shove it.
- kong99
June 12, 2009 4:47AM
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What constitutes a society?
You may have a superficial sense of empowerment, but you need to acknowledge that the society you are in is drifting towards a civil war. I am not exaggerating - we know this concept very well, and we know what it means if an offensive outside entity comes to impose their values. I live in europe.
So, go ahead, impose your values. Enforce them. Dictate what you want and do not want. Paint yourself so far into a noncompromizing corner that the other side will say screw you until hell freezes over. You state - I cannot ever compromize on these issues. The other side will be compelled to do the same and neither side will be capable of any shred of respect. \
So the end result will be either
1- society becoming fractioned in excludist experience bubbles - private schools, seperatist transport, closed off compounds. You will be able to isolate yourself completely from "that other scum".
2- secession. Create your own state, laws and system and enforce those values on others.
3- Civil War.
I do not see how the last is avoidable in the US within one generation.
Bear in mind that you will end up before a judge over here in the netherlands saying the things you say.
- Khannea Suntzu
June 12, 2009 1:05PM
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Impose?
It's funny how you say I am trying to impose my belief on everyone else, because it's the other way around. It's the left imposing their beliefs on our kids , and I don't want them to do that. I guess in your eyes we are supposed to roll over and play dead.
As far as your civil war bullcrap....this has been an age old argument. If civil war comes it will be because of our government becoming fascist....and with Obama, Reid and Pelosi it sure as hall is.
- kong99
June 12, 2009 2:33PM
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You lost me
How am I imposing my values on someone else? I am not trying to destroy the gays. Yes, I openly say that it's immoral, but they openly say it's normal and I don't have a problem with that. People in a free society should be able to speak their opinions.
The gays are the ones trying to impose their values on us through the courts and the schools. How you think that wanting the gay agenda kept out of the schools is forcing our agenda on everyone...I don't get it. It's preventing them from forcing the gay agenda on our kids . Do you see us fighting to have mandated classes speaking out against gays and their rights? No, you don't. It's the other way around.
As far as civil war, that's rediculous. This has been an age old argument and will always be an argument.
Finally....what the hell do you mean when you tell me to keep in mind that I will end up in front of a judge in the netherlands for saying the things I say? You going to come here and drag me out of my country and try me in front of your judges for having an opinion? Good luck on that. Our laws have nothing to do with your laws, and I don't give a hoot what your laws are.
- kong99
June 13, 2009 1:37PM
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Woops, sorry
I posted two replies to this response basically repeating the same thing. I apologize. The first reply was made a while back and it wasn't visible on the screen. I forgot about it.
- kong99
June 13, 2009 2:04PM
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Majority? Step aside...
Sooner or later you will have to join the 21st century. Equal rights WILL happen, whether you agree with them or not.
- aveteran
June 9, 2009 1:59AM
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