Should the U.S. Abolish the Death Penalty?

Should the U.S. Abolish the Death Penalty?

The death penalty has provoked heated discussion since biblical times, and today the debate remains as controversial as ever. Is such a sentence ever justified? Capital punishment is an intensely emotional topic for everyone involved because it sits at the intersection of life, death and the very definition of the word 'justice.'

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  • dudleysharp
    The 133 death row "innocents" scam

    The 133 death row "innocents" scam
    Dudley Sharp, contact info below

    NOTE: fact checking issues, on innocence and the death penalty .

    It is very important to take note that the 133 "exonerated" from death row is a blatant scam, easily uncovered by fact checking.

    Richard Dieter, head of the Death Penalty Information Center (DPIC) and DPIC have produced the claims regarding the exonerated and innocents released from death row list.

    The scam is that DPIC just decided to redefine what exonerated and innocence mean according to their own perverse definitions.

    How Dieter and DPIC define what "exonerated" or "innocent" means.

    ". . . (DPIC) makes no distinction between legal and factual innocence. " 'They're innocent in the eyes of the law ,' Dieter says. 'That's the only objective standard we have.' "

    That is untrue, of course. We are all aware of the differences between legal guilt and actual guilt and legal innocence (not guilty) and actual innocence, just as the courts are.

    The only issue in the death penalty innocence debate is how many actual innocents are sent to death row and what is the probability of executing an actual innocent. Legal innocence is not the issue, for the simple fact that we cannot execute a legally innocent person. So the concern is over the actual innocent, those who had no connection to the murder (s).

    Furthermore, there is no finding of actual innocence, but it is "not guilty". Dieter knows that we are all speaking of actual innocence, those cases that have no connection to the murder(s). He takes advantage of that by redefining exonerated and innocence.

    Dieter "clarifies" the three ways that former death row inmates get onto their "exonerated" by "innocence" list.

    "A defendant whose conviction is overturned by a judge must be further exonerated in one of three ways: he must be acquitted at a new trial, or the prosecutor must drop the charges against him, or a governor must grant an absolute pardon."

    None establishes actual innocence.

    DPIC has " . . . included supposedly innocent defendants who were still culpable as accomplices to the actual triggerman."

    DPIC: "There may be guilty persons among the innocents, but that includes all of us."

    Good grief. DPIC wishes to apply collective guilt of capital murder to all of us.

    Dieter states: "I don't think anybody can know about a person's absolute innocence." (Green). Dieter said he could not pinpoint how many are "actually innocent" -- only the defendants themselves truly know that, he said." (Erickson)

    Or Dieter won't assert actual innocence in 1, 133 or 350 cases. He doesn't want to clarify a real number with proof of actual innocence, that would blow his entire deception.

    Or, Dieter declare all innocent: "If you are not proven guilty in a court of law , you're innocent." (Green)

    Dieter would call Hitler and Stalin innocent. Those are his "standards".

    And that is the credibility of the DPIC.

    For fact checking.

    1. "Case Histories: A Review of 24 Individuals Released from Death Row", Florida Commission on Capital Cases, 6/20/02, Revised 9/10/02 at http://www.floridacapitalcases.state.fl.us/Publications/innocentsproject.pdf

    83% error rate in "innocent" claims.

    2. "Is 'the innocence list' an appropriate name?", 1/19/03
    FRANK GREEN, TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER
    http://www.stopcapitalpunishment.org/coverage/106.html

    Dieter admits they don't discern between legal innocence and actual innocence. One of Dieter's funnier quotes;"The prosecutor, perhaps, or Dudley Sharp, perhaps, thinks they're still guilty because there was evidence of their guilt, but that's a subjective judgment." Yep, "EVIDENCE OF GUILT", can't you see why Dieter would think they were innocent? And that's how the DPIC works.

    3. The Death of Innocents: A Reasonable Doubt,
    New York Times Book Review, p 29, 1/23/05, Adam Liptak,
    national legal correspondent for The NY Times

    "To be sure, 30 or 40 categorically innocent people have been released from death row . . . ".

    That is out of the DPIC claimed 119 "exonerated", at that time, for a 75% error rate.

    NOTE: It's hard to understand how an absolute can have a differential of 33%. I suggest the "to be sure" is, now, closer to 25.

    4. CRITIQUE OF DPIC LIST ("INNOCENCE:FREED FROM DEATH ROW"), Ward Campbell, http://www.prodeathpenalty.com/DPIC.htm


    5. "The Death Penalty Debate in Illinois", JJKinsella,6/2000, http://www.dcba.org/brief/junissue/2000/art010600.htm


    6.THE DEATH PENALTY - ALL INNOCENCE ISSUES, Dudley Sharp
    http://homicidesurvivors.com/2006/03/20/all-innocence-issues--the-death-penalty.aspx

    Origins of "innocence" fraud, and review of many innocence issues

    7. "Bad List", Ramesh Ponnuru, National Review, 9/16/02
    www.nationalreview.com/advance/advance091602.asp #title5

    How bad is DPIC?

    8. "Not so Innocent", By Ramesh Ponnuru,National Review, 10/1/02
    www.nationalreview.com/ponnuru/ponnuru100102.asp

    DPIC from bad to worse.

    - dudleysharpUS June 15, 2009 4:22AM

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