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(Video) Kids Revolt! Obama Wants Longer School Year

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I was not witholding credit, Rice.

Thank you

On the brighter side, you helped remind me to clarify a wee bit.

You missed my point. The policies I so ineliquently referred to as "agricultural laws" were enacted back when it was 60% of the population, not the current 2%. Now they're just pointless as farms don't need their legions of offspring to come home during the summer and daylight savings is not helpful to this society . In fact there may be other countries that would benefit from these policies, but ours no longer needs them.

As fir health care , that's not a valid comparison. I'm talking about a policy that structured aspects of society around a very valid need to get the farming done in this country, your comparing it to a problem that involves how we heal sick people.

For the record, I support a French style single payer system for the management of how health care is paid for. However the health system is not in shambles simply because a certain percentage of the population doesn't have health insurance .

60% of bankruptcies are due to medical bills and most of those are filed by insured patients. 15% of the country is uninsured, not all need to get insured, but most do. 49,000 is the estimated number of American citizens that die every year because they don't have insurance or what they have is not enough.

Our system has it strengths, but the rest of the world has accepted that not everything is better when run by capitalism.

Social welfare handled by private capitalists always leads to more death and misery than necessary.

I ave never, repeat: never, made the claim that 10% of the nation is uninsured and that is the reason we need health care reform . Your straw man misdirection has not worked on me. We need health care reform for many other reasons and your position is crudely justified by an "I'm in the boat, you can swim" argument.

I think the problem here is that other countries have learned that you HAVE to care about the society you live in and it's painful but homeless people and poor people must be propped up to make sure that society survives.

Only in America will you find a western democracy with so many people that love being Americans but care so little for their own countrymen, but isn't that what Conservativism is all about? Only worrying about the majority?

I hope you know that my picture next to my posts is really me. Calling me racist for bashing on white guys would be stretch since I'm a southern raised white boy. But your the racist, most uninsured are blacks... Unless I've shoved my foot in my mouth too... ? ;)

- Rice klowN September 28, 2009 3:28PM

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- "I'm in the boat, you can swim".
  
  How cleverly ironic. If everyone gets in the boat, everyone drowns when the damn thing sinks. The healthcare "boat" is full.
  
  There are not enough seats (hospitals), there are not enough doctors (oars) for everyone. Until that changes, there is insufficient room. Even if bleeding-hearts naively think that it is cruel.
  
  "I ave never, repeat: never, made the claim that 10% of the nation is uninsured and that is the reason we need health care reform . Your straw man misdirection has not worked on me."
  
  I didn't say you did, unless you are all of America's Liberals...
  
  10% are uninsured (Source: Obama's most recent Congressional address), not 15%. (unless you are counting the illegal immigrant parasites on the system.) As for your statistical arguments, please cite your source(s).
  
  "Our system has it strengths, but the rest of the world has accepted that not everything is better when run by capitalism.
  
  Social welfare handled by private capitalists always leads to more death and misery than necessary."
  
  Who gives a damn what the rest of the world thinks is better? (Not every other country's citizenry suckles from the government teat for their healthcare, BTW.)
  
  "I think the problem here is that other countries have learned that you HAVE to care about the society you live in and it's painful but homeless people and poor people must be propped up to make sure that society survives."
  
  Sure, but we are not talking about the homeless or the poor when we discuss Healthcare insurance rolls. We are talking about the middle-class. The poor and indigent are already covered 100%.
  
  "Only in America will you find a western democracy with so many people that love being Americans but care so little for their own countrymen, but isn't that what Conservatism is all about? Only worrying about the majority?"
  
  No.
  
  "I hope you know that my picture next to my posts is really me. Calling me racist for bashing on white guys would be stretch since I'm a southern raised white boy. But your the racist, most uninsured are blacks... Unless I've shoved my foot in my mouth too... ? ;)"
  
  Race has no bearing on whether or not a person is racist. Allow me to have my own "teachable moment":
  
  "Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."
  
  Notice that the definition does NOT read: "Racism is the belief one's race..."
  
  This is deliberate.
  
  I did not know that most uninsured are blacks. I don't believe it either. Who told you that, a family member, perhaps? A southern, white member of your family? Perhaps your father or your mother ? Did they say "That d$%n Obama wants healthcare for HIS people, and WE have to pay for it!"?
  
  Yeah, you stuffed your foot into your mouth a little, but I'm a good Christian, so I'll forgive you.
  
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  - You got your stats from a speech?
    
    15.8% of the population was uninsured in 2006
    
    Census Bureau's 2007 Current Population Survey
    http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/07/uninsured/index.htm
    
    The boat analogy is about how once you get what you need, you aren't interested in helping out others.
    
    I didn't say we should care what the rest of the world thinks, I said we should look at what they do. That's how you learn. Works in 2nd grade math class, works for national economies.
    
    There is nothing wrong with ensuring that the citizenry doesn't have to worry about losing everything they have because they got sick. It's immoral everywhere else, and it's immoral here. We should do better as a society .
    
    You killed the "accusation of -ist" joke... you tried to explain it.
    
    - Rice klowN September 29, 2009 5:29AM
    
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