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Sivan
Speaking of Israel
... they terrorise Palestinians everyday. But no one says a word about it because it's Israel, and if you did, you'd be called an anti-semite (in case you didn't know, Israel isn't Muslim... they're Jewish. You appear not to know this). Or maybe it wasn't Israel that just bombed civilians. Or maybe it wasn't Israel who put landmines outside of play areas of children.
The guards who terrorized the prisoners at Abu Ghraid weren't Muslim and yes, it was terrorizing.
Black Water isn't Muslim, yet they shot innocent civilians and terrorized the citizens of Iraq.
Simply because we're on one side and "they" are on the other doesn't make invading Iraq any less of a terrorist act perpetrated by a government. We invaded a sovereign country and lied about the reasons for doing so. We bombed buildings and killed innocent people. The reasoning behind it was false. Yet somehow it's okay, because it's the U.S.. Because we would never do anything that's wrong, and it's okay if we did because we're a democracy.
You can stand by your original statement all you want to but you'll still be standing by the words of a fool.
In the same way that guns don't kill people, but people kill people - Islam doesn't kill people, people kill people. Using religion as a reason to kill has worked for many Christians (Crusades), and continues to work for them. It doesn't mean Christianity promotes violence anymore than Islam does. It means misguided people will listen false purveyors of truth (in regards to religion).
- SocialistBetty
December 30, 2008 9:56AM
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ISLAMO-FACISM
The following is a quote from the speech of Geert Wilders, a Dutch Parliamentarian and chairman of the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands.
"In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.
In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear "whore, whore".
In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin.
The history of the Holocaust can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.
Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels,because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.
I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.
Allow me to give you a brief Islam 101. The first thing you need to know
about Islam is the importance of the book of the Quran. The Quran is Allah's personal word, revealed by an angel to Mohammed, the prophet. This is where the trouble starts.
Every word in the Quran is Allah's word and therefore not open to discussion or interpretation. It is valid for every Muslim and
for all times. Therefore, there is no such a thing as moderate Islam. Sure, there are a lot of moderate Muslims. But a moderate Islam is non-existent.
The Quran calls for hatred, violence, submission, murder, and terrorism. The Quran calls for Muslims to kill non-Muslims, to terrorize non-Muslims and to fulfil their duty to wage war: violent jihad.
Jihad is a duty for every Muslim, Islam is to rule the world - by the sword."
And these are the words of a government official from a country that welcomed Islamic imigrants with open arms and tried to help them get established in their country.
If you go online, you can get the complete text of Mr. Wilders speech.
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December 30, 2008 3:34PM
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YOU are the fascist.
And you're unreasonable, and you're racist against an entire group of people. Classic case of "It's okay if I do it, but horrible if you do it."
No amount of reasoning with you will ever work because you don't hear it. You have it in your head that only Muslims are terrorists and they're all out to get you. Nothing anyone can say will convince you otherwise.
Thus you, and people like you, will continue this idiocy into the future without recognizing problems for they really are and the wars and fighting and dying continue. Bravo.
- SocialistBetty
December 31, 2008 10:10AM
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Thank You So Much
Thank you for your rational and eloquent response (and personal attack on me).
Your ability to quickly sift through all the facts in my previous email and come to the conclusion that the problem is that I’m prejudiced against an entire group of people is a credit to your critical-thinking skills.
Thank you so much for clarifying the whole issue. No more discussion is needed.
Respectfully,
Sivan
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December 31, 2008 3:14PM
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Your facts?
Your entire post was a cut and paste of a speech by someone else. Wow.
Fascinating.
- SocialistBetty
December 31, 2008 8:21PM
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Please Inform All of Us
You must be right, so why don't you post the name of the person whom I took this speech from.
Thank you so much,
Sivan
- Sivan
December 31, 2008 9:38PM
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I don't have to, YOU already have.
If you want to know who you're quoting all you have to do is look. But you should know since you wrote it. Quoting and ignorance of another person hardly counts as fact, thank you so much.
I can quote you an except from speech by Hitler, but it would be filled with just as much propaganda, rhetoric, spin, And, if I were a Nazi, it would be just as "factual".
Again, you are the fascist. If you wouldn't insist on declaring that only you are right and an entire religion must be wiped out, I wouldn't say it. If it's wrong for "them" to do it... it's wrong for you to do it. You follow the same ideology, but on the opposite side. So if "they" are fascists, so are you.
- SocialistBetty
December 31, 2008 10:11PM
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Rabbi Meir Chai z"l
Rabbi Meir Chai, a 14 year resident of Shavei Shomron was driving his wife and one of his children from to a neighboring town. Rabbi Chai was the 45 year old father of seven children ranging in age from four months to 18 years. He taught Torah and helped teach kindergarten children.
His vehicle was attacked by three Arabs from Nablus, named Anan Subeh, Raed a-Sarkaji, and Raghsan Abu Sharah. All three were members of the Al-Aksa Terrorist Brigade. The older brother of Raghsan Abu Sharah was the leader of an area cell of Al-Aksa when he was killed in a gunfight with Israeli Defense Forces in 2004.
The IDF tracked down the three terrorists who killed Rabbi Chai to homes in Nablus. They were given time to surrender. They refused. One of the terrorists used his wife as a human shield. She, fortunately, was not injured. All three terrorists were killed.
Investigations into their background revealed that all three had been arrested for terrorist attacks on prior occasions and had served time in prison for their crimes. Further investigation discovered the weapons that they used, with ballistics tests confirming those facts.
Associated Press news reports make appear as if the deaths of the terrorists was gratuitous violence by Israel. Their reports failed to mention the name of the late Rabbi Chai, his status as a family many, and the fact that the three dead terrorists had ambushed him. They did not warn him to pull over, they did not give him a chance.
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December 27, 2009 10:29AM
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