For most Americans, Islam was a religion that lived on the periphery of their lives, a culture they caught glimpses of in movies and television shows. Then came the tragic events of 9/11, and suddenly the Western world was desperately grasping to understand a religion they knew precious little about. With all the questions swirling around the true nature of Islam, none has been asked more than this: Does Islam promote violence?
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All terrorists are Muslim?
Sivan
Timothy McVeigh was not an institutionalized religion. He was a single individual who was a radical lunatic and a mass murderer. And, if you're going to blame Chrisianity, please name the Christians who are currently blowing up hotels and driving bulldozers into groups of civilians in order to murder innocent people?
To repeat, not all Muslims are terrorists. But all of the terrorism, all over the world, is commited by Muslims. Most recently Pakistan and Israel.
Yes, the U.S. has supported some bad regimes in the past...sometimes it is a necessary evil in order to combat an even worse evil. For example, we became allies with Russia in order to fight a worse evil - Nazism.
Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world and we have to do the best we can. But lying about the evil done by Radical Islam is a fool's paradise.
I stand by my original statement!
Sivan
- Sivan
September 24, 2008 12:09PM
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Speaking of Israel
... they terrorise Palestinians everyday. But no one says a word about it because it's Israel, and if you did, you'd be called an anti-semite (in case you didn't know, Israel isn't Muslim... they're Jewish. You appear not to know this). Or maybe it wasn't Israel that just bombed civilians. Or maybe it wasn't Israel who put landmines outside of play areas of children.
The guards who terrorized the prisoners at Abu Ghraid weren't Muslim and yes, it was terrorizing.
Black Water isn't Muslim, yet they shot innocent civilians and terrorized the citizens of Iraq.
Simply because we're on one side and "they" are on the other doesn't make invading Iraq any less of a terrorist act perpetrated by a government. We invaded a sovereign country and lied about the reasons for doing so. We bombed buildings and killed innocent people. The reasoning behind it was false. Yet somehow it's okay, because it's the U.S.. Because we would never do anything that's wrong, and it's okay if we did because we're a democracy.
You can stand by your original statement all you want to but you'll still be standing by the words of a fool.
In the same way that guns don't kill people, but people kill people - Islam doesn't kill people, people kill people. Using religion as a reason to kill has worked for many Christians (Crusades), and continues to work for them. It doesn't mean Christianity promotes violence anymore than Islam does. It means misguided people will listen false purveyors of truth (in regards to religion).
- SocialistBetty
December 30, 2008 9:56AM
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ISLAMO-FACISM
The following is a quote from the speech of Geert Wilders, a Dutch Parliamentarian and chairman of the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands.
"In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.
In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear "whore, whore".
In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin.
The history of the Holocaust can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.
Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels,because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.
I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.
Allow me to give you a brief Islam 101. The first thing you need to know
about Islam is the importance of the book of the Quran. The Quran is Allah's personal word, revealed by an angel to Mohammed, the prophet. This is where the trouble starts.
Every word in the Quran is Allah's word and therefore not open to discussion or interpretation. It is valid for every Muslim and
for all times. Therefore, there is no such a thing as moderate Islam. Sure, there are a lot of moderate Muslims. But a moderate Islam is non-existent.
The Quran calls for hatred, violence, submission, murder, and terrorism. The Quran calls for Muslims to kill non-Muslims, to terrorize non-Muslims and to fulfil their duty to wage war: violent jihad.
Jihad is a duty for every Muslim, Islam is to rule the world - by the sword."
And these are the words of a government official from a country that welcomed Islamic imigrants with open arms and tried to help them get established in their country.
If you go online, you can get the complete text of Mr. Wilders speech.
Sivan
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December 30, 2008 3:34PM
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YOU are the fascist.
And you're unreasonable, and you're racist against an entire group of people. Classic case of "It's okay if I do it, but horrible if you do it."
No amount of reasoning with you will ever work because you don't hear it. You have it in your head that only Muslims are terrorists and they're all out to get you. Nothing anyone can say will convince you otherwise.
Thus you, and people like you, will continue this idiocy into the future without recognizing problems for they really are and the wars and fighting and dying continue. Bravo.
- SocialistBetty
December 31, 2008 10:10AM
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Thank You So Much
Thank you for your rational and eloquent response (and personal attack on me).
Your ability to quickly sift through all the facts in my previous email and come to the conclusion that the problem is that I’m prejudiced against an entire group of people is a credit to your critical-thinking skills.
Thank you so much for clarifying the whole issue. No more discussion is needed.
Respectfully,
Sivan
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December 31, 2008 3:14PM
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Your facts?
Your entire post was a cut and paste of a speech by someone else. Wow.
Fascinating.
- SocialistBetty
December 31, 2008 8:21PM
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Please Inform All of Us
You must be right, so why don't you post the name of the person whom I took this speech from.
Thank you so much,
Sivan
- Sivan
December 31, 2008 9:38PM
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