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The point is that we do not need a complicated theory to see the problem. We all agree--or say we agree--with the notion that it is wrong to impose suffering or death for reason of pleasure, amusement, or convenience. But that is precisely what we do when we consume animal products.
I think you mean "raises" a question and not "begs" a question (unless I am misunderstanding your point). In any event, our relationship with nonhuman animals is characterized by our unjustifiable exclusion of nonhumans from our concepts of fundamental justice which, in turn, is related to certain speciesist aspects of our conceptualization of animal interests. Take a look at the Introduction to my most recent book, "Animals as Persons: Essays on the Abolition of Animal Exploitation" (Columbia U. Press).
Gary L. Francione
Professor, Rutgers University
- Gary L Francione
August 16, 2008 10:45AM
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Thank You Mr. Francione
I appreciate your clarification to my point. I, indeed, meant "raises" a question. Although "begs" seems appropriate as well: If the imposition of suffering can be justified for X, Y, and Z reasons then doesn't it follow that our fundamental premise against "unnecessary suffering" is resting on rather shaky ground – what else could we justify? (Maybe it is, "we say we agree"?) However, as you argue, this is related to speciesism whereby the suffering of nonhumans isn't considered morally relevant. My further point here is that this prejudice violates yet another premise of fundamental justice we hold regarding impartiality and the universality of "moral" rights.
- Alex M
August 21, 2008 2:35PM
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