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(Opinion) New Website 'ChurchOuting.org' Seeks to Intimidate Gay Priests

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New Website 'ChurchOuting.org' Seeks to Intimidate Gay Priests

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I wish the would make up their minds????? they first fight for rights and the right to "come out"....now they are mad because someone is going to bring them "out" What do they want???? If they are gay and not ashamed of it why do they care...but on the other had the ones that are pediphioles need especially be brought and and abolished because no one wants to think of what the sickos do to the little alter boys!

- cbooh November 21, 2009 3:59PM

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- Who
  
  Who is "they," cbooh? '"They" fight for rights.' '"They" come out.' '"They" are mad about being outed.' 'What do "They" want?'
  
  Are you presuming that "They" is all the same person? Are you presuming that "They" all "think alike?" Sounds like a whole lot of generalizing and stereotyping going on here.
  
  - Babaroni November 23, 2009 12:07PM
  
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  - oh i beg your pardon
    
    i keep forgetting that thinks on the internet must be made specific for people who are apparently "challanged" in understanding..it seems that most anyone who was remarking on a certain subject would understand that when one said "they" that "they" ment the subject of the post as in this case "Catholic Priests"
    Since some people have intellects that must have everything spelled out specifically I will start over... First let me say that I am not against Gay people..That is their own business... But gays have gripped for yrs about the right to "Come out" now they "The GAY CATHOLIC PRIESTS" are angry because a web site is bringing them out. So what is the big deal. If they "THE CATHOLIC PRIESTS' are not ashamed of being gay why do they care if the site brings them 'THE CATHOLIC PRIESTS' out. I am so sorry dear next time I will try and remember that you need things explained in a specific manner.
    
    - cbooh November 23, 2009 6:00PM
    
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    - I think the part you might be missing
      
      cbooh, I think the part that you might be missing is that these Catholic priests have NOT been fighting to be "out of the closet." They can be defrocked if it is known that they are gay. Many (though not all) of them remain celibate. They don't WANT to be "out."
      
      The reason, however, that they are being "outed" is because of the stance their church is taking on a number of issues, including gay rights . The problem is that they are, themselves, gay, but are acting in support of their church's stance against gay people (kind of a "conflict of interests," if you will). So some people feel it is appropriate to "out" them, because those people feel that the behavior of these priests is hypocritical (being gay, yet working in a position within an organization which attacks gays and denies equal rights to gays).
      
      It becomes confusing when you lump all gay people into a single bucket and don't stop to realize that gay people are as varied as straight people, and that we don't all share the same "agenda" or thoughts or feelings.
      
      - Babaroni November 23, 2009 6:18PM
      
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      - well
        
        I know all that and that they "The priests ' can be defrocked and they "The Priest " should be defrocked. They "The Priests' are going against the catholic policies. If they " The Priests" are gay that is fine with me but they should not be Priests...The people in the Church where these Priests are need to know this (that they are gay) so they (the people) can change churches...Some people who are Catholic go strictly by catholic policies and would not want their priest to be gay so they have a right to know and if these priests don't like it well so be it they should be defrocked...The Catholic Church is the strongest Church to fight for their traditions and beliefs and Gays should not be Priests..
        
        - cbooh November 23, 2009 6:30PM
        
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        Really?
        
        So you believe that a gay man should not be able to be a priest, even though he is celibate? All gays should be purged from the clergy, even if they are celibate?
        
        - Babaroni November 24, 2009 12:12AM
        
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        Celibacy is also a perversion
        
        Barbaroni, and in the eyes of most religions, a sin. There is nothing "normal" about a celibate gay priest much less a celibate priest sdand sexual orientation issues. Both are a perversion. Homosexuality is not a sin it is a lifestyle. Celibacy is an unnatural state, humans are sexual animals .
        
        - owlafaye January 30, 2010 9:04AM
        
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      - Being gay and acting on it
        
        I don't think the Church is against a person being a gay priest as long as they are not acting on their desires. Same for every man in the Church. It does seem odd that they would want to be a priest when homosexuality is not accepted in the Catholic Church. I am against anyone demanding the church to change for them. If they want they can join I believe the Wisconsin synod of the Lutheran Church which allows gays or any number of denominations which nowadays accept homosexuality.
        
        - Jerica November 25, 2009 11:27AM
        
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        Not true
        
        The church just recently conducted a witch-hunt-style purge of all the gay young men (including those who were completely and faithfully celibate) in their seminaries. They also issued a letter directing that gay priests (celibate) should not be permitted to teach in seminaries.
        
        The letter stated that men with "deep-seated homosexual tendencies" should not be permitted to enter the seminary, nor should they be permitted to teach seminary. It said that priests who were already ordained, who had "homosexual tendencies" (i.e., are gay, but celibate) would not be defrocked, but that they should not be permitted to teach in seminaries.
        
        - Babaroni November 25, 2009 1:28PM
        
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- To: -chooh
  
  For what it's worth.
  
  I was born into a Catholic family, delivered in a Catholic church , attended Catholic school staffed by nuns from hell, some relatives were priests and nuns and was an altar boy.
  
  It took a few moths as an altar boy to learn that something was not right about the priests. Fortunately I had no bad experiences but other altar boys did and I heard about it. My world and what I expected of the world at the tender age of 12 years began to crumble.
  
  I had to refer to the dictionary as to what homosexual meant. The whole concept was alien and unbelievable to me. Well I guess I had to find out sometime but I would have preferred knowing at a much later date if at all.
  
  I pulled my tour as an altar boy and a few years later saw the church for what it is. A power mad institution that rules through fear and intimidation of hell fire. All the while taking your money .
  
  I became a born again atheist at 16 years and have never been happier.
  
  I am not surprised priests are upset that their sexual preferences are being exposed. After all one must keep in mind that the church has always been a haven, a hideout for homosexuals , pedophiles and lay abouts. Especially in times past which would often see homos killed. Actually in some parts of the world, Middle East for one this still happens even more frequently than here. These were not necessarily well intentioned people who wanted to do good works. I believe some are, but very few. For the most part they can sanctify their lives with a veneer of respectability while they are fed and watered, sleep in comfy beds and even get paid to tell their flock how to live and how wrong and sinful anal intercourse is.lol
  
  I learned years later from an ex priest who married an ex nun that he estimated 90% of priests are homo and the rest just confused free loaders. Now as an adult I accept the fact god has a sense of homour and homosexuality is a natural thing. There is no cure. It is not wrong. Ask Ted Haggard. It is the result of natures ceaseless experimenting. I have accepted this and am glad I was born straight.
  
  - fitz November 26, 2009 12:18PM
  
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