Should Animals Have the Same Rights as People?

Should Animals Have the Same Rights as People?

Last year Leona Helmsley left $12 million to her dog, Trouble, setting off a heated courtroom battle. California just passed a proposition that says farm animals must be humanely caged. The legal line between humans and animals is blurring further everyday. When it comes to "animal rights," should your cocker spaniel be entitled to the same freedoms and protections as your kid?

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  • Naumadd
    No ... the source of right or rights

    A "right" or rights are derived from the specifics of who and what one is. No two individual human beings can be declared "the same", although they might certainly be called similar. It's likely they have similar rights, but cannot have the same rights. They are not the same and never can be if examined entirely. So too with other species. No two individuals within a species have the same rights, nor can individuals across species have same rights. Each life is different from the next and thus each "right" is different in its whole nature. Differences cannot be wished away. One may not want them to matter, however, what one wishes is rather irrelevant. In the real world, differences always matter and ought to. It matters greatly that no two lives are the same. This is what makes them "two" lives instead of simply one. What matters too is whether or not one recognizes the differences and takes them into consideration or ignores the differences thus disrespecting the truth at probable peril to oneself and others.

    The primary right which is the foundation of all others is one's right to one's own life. A life, big or small, simple or complex, belongs to itself. It cannot, by right, belong to another, although another life may or may not be at liberty to possess it in some way. Whatever life it possesses is its property to do with as it wishes. There is dominion over self, but there cannot be dominion over anothers. This is not a right that is given or taken away. It is a fact born of that life itself. It is a right that exists with that life, neither existing before that life nor existing after the life which is it's basis is gone.

    What is at issue and what is always at issue among us human beings either regarding ourselves and each other or members of other species is whether or not one is to be given the liberty to exercise the right of one's own life. Many varying reasons are marched out in favor or against such liberty - some with good factual information and consistent logic, most of it without. The most arguable reason for denying the liberty of another is the inescapable fact that one life must kill another to survive. To keep life, one must take life. This means that regardless how one feels about the right to life of another being - human or not - at some point one must decide to kill to survive or perish and be consumed. This particular law of nature cannot be circumvented for the sake of high-minded morality. Still, one is usually at liberty to postpone such decisions until absolutely necessary and one is usually at liberty to pick and choose which life must go and which will be preserved. What one must remember at such times is one has the right to live but cannot have a right to deprive another of the life they possess. Again, a life belongs to itself and cannot, by right, have a master. It is unavoidable that one must kill and often we find ourselves with such liberty just as all of the rest of life on Earth is at liberty to kill or not kill.

    In this liberty to kill or not kill, yes, we and other animals are equal. No two, however, are equal in their willingness and skill in limiting or ending the life of another. There are many with an overabundance of such. As for me, though I am at liberty to impose myself on many other lives, I choose to exercise such liberty as conservatively as I'm able to manage. I opt to give as many lives - human or other - the freedom to live as I'm presented the opportunity to decide. It is not the right of those lives to continue living by their own determination that comes into my mind. That right is unquestionable.

    I exercise my rights liberally, however, I exercise my liberties conservatively.

    That's compassion.

    - NaumaddUS November 11, 2008 5:42AM

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    • sean joshua
      Why worry about rights when instead we can just do what is right?

      Naumadd, you are a skilled writer, a profound thinker who does not fall for the trap of some of some of these other writers in that you do not think without first filtering your thoughts through that part of your mind which I call heart. What point thinking and reasoning without compassion?

      I am grateful to you for your contribution and believe it is people like you who give humanity and this planet hope.

      I would only point out, that I believe there is a misconception with the word "rights". It is bantied around as if "rights" exist, somewhere. You wrote "It's likely they have similar rights, but cannot have the same rights".

      This begs the question: from where do these so called rights originate? What or who is the source of these "rights"? This very question reveals that rights are something which people arbitrarily declare. We might justify the ascribing of a particular set of protections, in law or in ethics, to one or another group of beings by reference to some other body of edicts or rules... which it will turn out also issue from the minds and writings of other people. At the end of the day though, we make them up.

      So if compassion is a fundamental higher ethic, and if we make rights up, then why not just ascribe rights to animals to be free from cruelty at the hands of humans, whether for sport, medical research or food? Given that we don't need to kill animals in order to be happy, why should we continue to degrade the essence of humanity, damage the environment and bring such misery into the world by continuing to deprive animals of such rights.

      Plutarch foreshadowed such a day when animals too would be recognised for their interests in freedom from suffering. Thomas Edison, Einstein and Jeremy Bentham all recognised that our exploitation of animals was cruel and would see our ruin.

      Time to stop bickering about whether or not animals have rights, and to start doing what is right.

      - sean joshuaAU November 12, 2008 11:39PM

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      • Naumadd
        Necessity and Misery ...

        Well, as I indicated, assuming one wishes to continue living, there is no escaping the clear necessity to take the life of another in order to continue one's own - plant, animal or otherwise. As I also indicated, ownership of one's own life is not something that can be given or taken away. Each life belongs to itself and no factual or consistently reasonable argument can be made to the contrary. Nevertheless, in the end, rule number one always confronts us - consume or be consumed. For continued living, killing is a necessity regardless of the form of life and that necessity precedes any considerations of the fact every life owns itself.

        Still, although to take life in order to keep it is an inescapable necessity, our own misery and the misery we inflict on other life is NOT a necessity. To inflict misery simply because one is too ignorant or lazy to do otherwise or because one loves the misery of another has nothing at all to do with inescapable necessity. To inflict misery on another or to remain complacent regarding one's own misery is choice. It is at those times necessity no longer precedes the fact of an individual life's ownership of itself. It is at those times one has an alternate choice to be compassionate or not regarding another life and to be happy or not regarding one's own. One's survival is not at issue.

        It isn't madness to want to survive, however, to want to survive while experiencing as much misery as one can endure and while inflicting as much misery as one is capable is surely madness.

        In the end, this question "Do animals have the same rights as people?" is a disguise for the real question - "Ought human beings grant liberty to other forms of life to exercise the right of their own lives?" I happen to take animal rights as a given because, if I hold as true I own all rights to my own life, I must maintain that every life owns itself for the same reasons I use to support my own claim. What is truly at issue is whether I'm willing to grant other life the liberty to live as it chooses because I too value that liberty. I love my life. If I assume other life values itself, I must grant that life the liberty to live it, otherwise my love of my own life and my value of its liberty is a sham should I attempt to use one argument for myself and a different argument for the value of other life.

        A life's ownership of itself is a given. I grant other life liberty of self-determination because I too value such liberty. Nevertheless, if I am to survive, no matter how much I value my own liberty or the liberty of other life, rule number one is the final arbiter - consume or be consumed. What I will not do is impose myself on other life beyond my own necessity. I will not inflict misery on another out of laziness or love of misery.

        That is not necessity, it is madness.

        - NaumaddUS November 13, 2008 7:07PM

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      • CitizenZebra
        Rights are....

        are simply abstract expressions of what all living creatures bestow upon one another.

        - CitizenZebraUS October 25, 2009 3:02AM

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    • sor666
      Who are non-human animals?

      I thought I will pose a quesiton - if dominion over self is here meant to mean "free will", then we are again in trouble with this argument- "free will " can only be defined as positive freedom and to so define it we must agree about the identity or the nature of the existence of the subject who has "free will"- but as all the arguments that follow illustrate- there is no agreement about what it means to be a non-human animal ie no agreement as to the nature of the existence or identity of non-human animals - no one actually knows who non-human animals are and some have gone as far as to equate them with plants and machines. Legally some have suggested animals should have the status of children , others that of disabled people- so the fundamental question is "who are non-human animals?". We need to decide if we agree that they are "sentient" or even "alive".

      - sor666AU May 6, 2009 5:19AM

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    • CitizenZebra
      The actual answer to the question

      NO! The question requires a simple answer, not 700 words of unrelated philosophy!

      - CitizenZebraUS October 25, 2009 2:58AM

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