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Life or personhood
Life vs. personhood
Mike said "I think you're thinking of personhood, because there is simply no question about whether or not you are ending a life. ".
Yes, I was referring to "personhood" throughout my post.
The idea of "life" in and of itself is not important to this debate. This sound's strange, I know, but many things are "alive" that as a society we have no compunctions about killing. Many animals for food, insects as pests, skin cells when we scrape our knee. All of these things are alive, but killing them is (for most of us) not controversial. We even let people die when they are in a vegetative state (most of the time).
So "life" is not the standard for the debate on abortion. The standard must be HUMAN life, which I treat as synonymous with "personhood". With respect to a fertilized egg, embryo, or fetus, the question is When does it become a person? Certainly not at conception, by my way of thinking. Possibly not until birth. Arguably sometime in between.
But aside from chronological definitions, the acquisition of higher consciousness characteristic of humans from birth onward is my functional definition. I just don't know when that happens. And since no one else does either, we should leave up to each of us.
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- SidAirfoil
October 16, 2008 1:38PM
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A slippery slope.
Thanks for clarifying. Currently, in Colorado, USA, there is an attempt to constitutionally define "personhood" as starting from conception. To me, this is a silly notion.
But on the flip side, it's a dangerous thing to base an argument on "I just don't know when that happens. And since no one else does either, we should leave up to each of us."
I'd rather apply hard science and err on the side of not generating needless suffering. There has to be a point where nociceptors are up and running. At that point, a fetus has a clear interest in not being injured and killed. I don't know where that point is, and it sounds like you don't either, but that should not justify making potential inflicting of pain and death a "personal" choice.
At the same time, do I think this decision should start with legislation? Nah. I think that, as I feel with most big ethically-based laws, the moral majority should make that happen. And that won't happen until we have more information, more education, and some effective methods of planning, protection, and prevention in regards to human reproduction.
- mike
October 16, 2008 2:47PM
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