Over the last decade, autism has gone from a rare and misunderstood condition to a disorder that may affect as many as 1.5 million Americans. Without a clear explanation in sight, parents and doctors have worked tirelessly to pinpoint the cause of autism, but the answer remains elusive. Are vaccines the missing link?
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The recent study on MMR and autism in children who regressed and have GI symptoms show that this is not entirely closed. There is at least one more study on thimerosal and autism which is due out this month (Sept. 08). As more data comes in, the hypotheses mutate. Now it's "too many, too soon" (without any substantiation). When can this be called finished?
Seriously. If the autism communities do not accept good science, we are only hurting ourselves.
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When I grew up we had never heard of autism. I was twenty eight when I first saw an autistic child on a news program . My son is twenty one. There had not been any autistic children in his elementary school when his sister enrolled four years before. Suddenly there were two and another just down the street who did not attend the elementary school. We sent my son to the Day Treatment Center here in Denver, Colorado, enrolling him when there was room, just before the calls came in that overwhelmed it.
The woman who ran the program knew autism. The people who came to see about getting their children enrolled in the program had autistic children. She watched the bow wave come in and overwhelm the system. Back then the CDC said that there is no epidemic. She knew better and said so.
There is an epidemic. The peer review system is run by medical people who rightly are pro-vax. I do not expect them to say that there is a stunning increase in autism because that would say that there is an epidemic. An epidemic by definition involves environmental causes. The pro-vaxers do not have any environmental causes to propose. I do not wonder that they say that there is no epidemic to deflect such unwanted attention from vaccines.
Your mantra "Show me the peer reviewed study" does not work when that system is run by medical personnel who are rightly pro-vax.
In the fourth grade, my son lost the ability to hold a pencil right after vaccination with the Hep-B shot. This raises my eyebrows, even my hackles, but I am still rational. I know that the timing does not prove that his loss was caused by the shot.
I expect that there will never be a "peer reviewed" study on this. But I was there. I watched the bow wave start coming in before any thought was given to a change in diagnostics. There is an epidemic.
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September 15, 2008 6:47PM
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There were autistic people back in the fifties', but Ed wouldn't hear about them cuz the severely disabled was stuck in institutions and the ones who would today get diagnoses like Asperger syndrome would mainly be considered weird, maybe with a lack of responsibility or something.
You appear to focus on children, not all know what to look for in children if autism is their concern - and I bet you didn't aswell back in the days.
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Cause if you do then you know that you have to find out what is going on. That is just as true in the fifties as it is now.
When the studies were done that showed the autism rate climbing when mercury was taken out, it left the unanswered question "Why is it still climbing?" The speculation that it is a change in diagnostics hit the air and the pro-vax side ran away with it, doing so without any experiments to support it.
But that would be junk science wouldn't it.
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... and my parents have certainly taken the way I am for granted.
There has been studies supporting it. It has been revealed that people who had been picked up for having e.g. speech difficulties a few decades ago are often fit for an autism spectrum diagnosis today, but they wouldn't get any because few ever knew of autism back then.
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Your speech would indicate that you fit into the asperger's spectrum. The ones who fit into the "classically autistic" spectrum would not and could not be ignored. The number of these cases have risen and the "change in diagnostics" does not explain the rise.
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Something tells me that you've your own lil set of definitions of what is what when you say Asperger's 'spectrum', instead of the more common name, syndrome.
My bad grammar should first and foremost indicate that I English is not my native language. Asperger syndrome is indeed the diagnosis I've been given, but my behavior was "more severe" when I was younger as with many others diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. Many who get a diagnosis of Kanner's autism as a kid are more fit for Asperger syndrome when they grow older.
You appear to imply that you have yourself a kid on the spectrum. In what age group is xe? As you already have put some kind of Ad Hominem attack in my direction I would like to point out that, at least in my experience, parents of older children have a lot more perspective. While parents of younger ones often tend to be emotional with irrational reasoning, not fully accepting of how their child turned out.
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Your English is very good.
My son is 21 and he was diagnosed as classicly autistic. He is doing much better than I would ever have expected overcoming aphasia (inability to talk), hypersensitivity to sound, repetitive behaviors, eye contact issues, skill losses and other issues. Today he is a sophomore studying engineering. I would never have predicted this outcome for him.
BTW, the reason I am uncommitted is because the statistical test to determine if there is a relationship between vaccines and autism is to compare the autism rate among the vaccinated population to the vaccination rate among the unvaccinated population. This experiment has never been done.
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The Autism-Mercury Debate Is Far From Over
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Autism and mercury "debate"
Can someone...anyone!...please explain to the scientific and medical community how mercury (in its various forms: inorganic, methylmercury, ethylmercury) in the concentrations that are present in vaccines (as opposed to exposure in food, air, water, consumer/medical products) causes the antisocial behaviors associated with autism, even though the clinical descriptions of mercury poisoning are completely different? How come children in Pacific Island nations, Japan, Iraq, etc., exposed to large amounts of mercury are not autistic, rather, have other clearly definable symptoms?
I know we'll here the 'neurotoxin" buzz word again, as if everything else at a specific dose is not a neurotoxin 9including oxygen and water). If mercury (in all its forms), the neurotoxin, is the cause, why are peripheral neurons not affected? What about the kidney? How come 'mad hatters' were not distinguished as autistic.
There seems to be quite a (fabricated) jump without any clinical basis in fact.
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How come Mad Hatters Were Not Distinguished as Autistic?
Well, for one thing, autism had not yet been discovered as a disease in the 1700s.
For another, hatters were adults, who had finished their rapid brain growth, so different parts of their brains were damaged.
And if you look at the symptoms of mercury poisoning, depression, hostility, gut problems, disturbance in sensation, itching, burning, numbness, lack of coordination, impairments of speech, hearing and walking, muscle weakness, mood swings, mental disturbances, rashes, photophobia, many are identical to autism symptoms.
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old hat
the mercury poisoning = autism hypothesis was abandoned long ago, even among those at Generation Rescue and Age of Autism.
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Yes, But Mercury Poisoning is Not the Sole Cause
And I'm not saying autism and Hg poisoning are identical, either.
They are RELATED. They have many features in common. But because autism is an immune response against the brain, triggered by much smaller amounts of COMBINED TOXINS, the classic dose/response relationship and symptoms differ in some respects.
Gulf War Syndrome is at last recognized by the government as a likely result of military vaccinations, which contain many substances which can be safely ingested, (like squalene, which is in olive oil ) but wreak havoc when injected into the bloodstream.
"Despite repeated assurances that the vaccine was safe and necessary, a U.S. Federal Judge ruled that there was good cause to believe it was harmful, and he ordered the Pentagon to stop administering it in October 2004.[25] The ban was lifted in February 2008 after the FDA re-examined and approved the drug again. Anthrax vaccine is the only substance suspected in Persian Gulf War syndrome to which forced exposure has since been banned to protect troops from it.[26]
Subsequent anthrax vaccines , however, have met with approval. On December 15, 2005, the Food and Drug Administration, released a Final Order finding that the current anthrax vaccines are safe and effective.[27][28][29] The anthrax vaccine currently used is not the same vaccine that was issued during the First Gulf War.[30]"
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demonstrated
"They are RELATED. They have many features in common. But because autism is an immune response against the brain, triggered by much smaller amounts of COMBINED TOXINS, the classic dose/response relationship and symptoms differ in some respects."
On what basis do you make that claim?
"Gulf War Syndrome is at last recognized by the government as a likely result of military vaccinations, which contain many substances which can be safely ingested, (like squalene, which is in olive oil ) but wreak havoc when injected into the bloodstream."
So one vaccine not working automatically extends to all other vaccines ?
It also sounds like the issue with that vaccine was resolved, and it is now back in use.
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The argument never should have begun
National Autism Association is closely allied with people who keep this beating this more than dead horse, the personal injury law firms. One of their board members works for a vaccine law firm. Their name is misleading as they are a very small group of people located in Nixa, MO in a small strip mall. It is unclear if anyone actually works there. This is not a national organization in the sense that Autism Society of America is with it's offices in Wash., DC. NAA is a group of people with a common goal of implicating vaccines for various selfish and neurotic reasons.
Opposing Views has utterly failed to do due diligence when they put the "national autism association" up as an "expert".
Read and listen to the "evidence" provided by these personal injury lawyers in the Omnibus Autism Hearing. The case will have to be decided against the parents. Their evidence is so poor it can't even rise to the level of being "science" and their experts repeatedly lied under oath.
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At the very least
Medical professional should be honest with parents and be able to truthfully state that they don't know if vaccination causes Autism... The parent should have the right to make a decision based on that information.
Unfortunately federal informed consent laws are for the most over looked important laws in history. Here is what the AMA officially states about informed consent on their web page......
"Informed consent is more than simply getting a patient to sign a written consent form. It is a process of communication between a patient and physician that results in the patient's authorization or agreement to undergo a specific medical intervention...
Forms that serve mainly to satisfy all legal requirements (stating for example that "all material risks have been explained to me") may not preclude a patient from asserting that the actual disclosure did not include risks that the patient unfortunately discovered after treatment. At the other extreme, listing all of the risks may not be wise either. "
The AMA's own policy states it's not important for a parent to be given a fully informed consent in which to make a fully informed decision about the health and safety of their own children. Medical doctors shamelessly take advantage and refuse to properly inform parents that they don't really know.... Because they DON'T have the credible research that proves that vaccines DON'T cause autism.
To learn more.. Vaccine911.com
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Unbiased Research needed
The only way we can come to the end of this debate is if research is done by a neutral party which has no ties to pharmaceutical companies, the government, or any other organization that could influence the testing and results. Even if we say that there is no tie between mercury and autism, what about the other toxic ingredients in the vaccines? What about aluminum, formaldehyde, Antifreeze, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Phenol, Borax, Latex, Neomycin Sulfate, MSG, and live viruses, just to name a few.
Another thing we should ask is why do we see improvements with biomedical treatments? Biomedical treatments, for those that are unfamiliar with them, help to bring the toxic load down, getting rid of the metals and toxins in the body, and raising nutrient levels. If there were no correlation between vaccinations and autism, how are our children having high levels of toxins in their blood then and why do we see improvements of those on biomedical treatments?
There is a very good reason why the puzzle piece is used to represent autism. Vaccinations is just one of the pieces. All of the toxins in vaccines should be studied as well as the timing of vaccinations, reactions between the toxic chemicals, as well as genetic susceptibility.
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Good science is independant
Good science is, by its very nature, independent. When a paper is submitted to a journal for publication it has to first pass through peer review. This means that a 'panel' of experts from that particular discipline see if the paper is actually good enough to be published.
There are several key issues that lead to a paper being deemed good enough. These include 'transparency' - e.g. are the methods the scientists used easy to see and do they make sense. Something else is 'reproducibility' - e.g. can the results of the paper be reproduced by any other scientist using the same methods? A transparent, reproducible paper is - by its very definition - independent of its authors. The science stands (or falls) on its own.
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Take a look at the Syracuse University Study
It measured the mercury after vaccination. After three days the mercury was gone from the blood stream. I do not disagree with the measurements. I disagree with the conclusion that mercury preservatives in vaccines are okay because it leaves the blood stream after three days. The implication is that it leaves the body. Mercury by definition is a cumulative poison and accumulates in the tissues.
You will find the study referenced at the CDC autism website.
The paper was both transparent and reproducible. Nothing in the peer review says anything about the conclusions.
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And it established what?
OK, but what is your point with regard to the independence of science?
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The point?
The point is that the conclusions are erroneous. Transparency, reproducibility and peer review did nothing to stop this.
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Vaccine Components
As I have discussed before ( http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=873 ), there is more Aluminium in between 50 days to 1 years worth of breast feeding than in the entire paediatric vaccine schedule. There is no anti-freeze in vaccines. A single component of antifreeze – polyethylene glycol – is used to inactivate the flu virus in one brand of that vaccine; it is also used in the purification of certain vaccines. Its also used in some skin creams and toothpastes. 2-Phenoxyethanol us also used in skin creams and insect repellents. Its all very well reproducing an (inaccurate) list of scary sounding ingredients, when one actually looks at them, they are less scary.
Biomed treatments such as chelation etc have no scientific evidence to say that they have any sort of effect on autism at all. Anecdotes from parents are not reliable. An example of this was the testimony of Michelle Cedillo ( http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=573 ) where the parents felt their daughter regressed into autism after the MMR. Using home videos it was easy to see that she was in fact showing clear signs of autism prior to the MMR.
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RE: Vaccine Components
I have seen complete lists of vaccine ingredients and yes, it is scary considering the number of neurotoxins. I am certainly not opposed to vaccines, there is enough proof out there of the diseases they help either prevent or reducing the chances of being infected by disease, however I think it's important for the scientific community to find alternative ingredients that do not require these toxins. As far as biomeds are concerned, chelation is only one type of treatment and seems to be the one most talked about. GFCF diets is another form of biomed and so are nutritional supplements. The GFCF diet and supplements did not cure my son but did make some very noticeable and dramatic improvements with his autism. Not every treatment works for everyone that is why there is no scientific evidence and also what makes autism all the more puzzling. I wouldn't completely discredit the words from all parents for the sake of a few nor would I discredit the words from all doctors for the sake of a few. As for the example of Michelle Cedillo, I believe it is a very sad situation because the signs of autism where not noticed as early as they should have been. I believe either in that situation it is a lack of knowledge about the signs of autism or denial. Autism is certainly not a word a parent wants to hear and for some, it is easier to pass these signs off as something else.
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Toxins are only toxic at the right level
What you describe as 'toxins' are only actually harmful at the 'right' level. The Aluminium example I gave you is a good example of this. The amount of Aluminium in vaccines is totally safe. If it wasn't then any child who was breastfed for between 50 days to a year would show devastating neurological injury.
There is no evidence the GFCF diet makes any changes to autism ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18425890 ). Further, there is no evidence that children with autism have gastric issues in numbers over and above non-autistic children ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18311517 ).However, there is evidence that CF diets can lead children to have reduced bone thickness ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17879151 ).
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RE: Toxins are only toxic at the right level
I was not saying that people with autism have gastric issues in numbers over and above non-autistics, not sure where you got that impression from. I put my son on an GFCF diet because he had gastrointestinal issues as well as being autistic and the diet helped with both. I've seen first hand it works. It does not work for every child nor does every other form of therapy, even more traditional ones. If there was one form of therapy that worked for everyone, we wouldn't need IEPs. If parents discover something that helps their autistic children, I think they should do it (but do it responsibly). When you start any diet, it's best to consult a doctor. If you are on any type of diet at all you are taking away nutrients you would normally be getting through those foods. If you are on a CF diet and are not taking calcium supplements, of course you will see reduced bone thickness as well as other symptoms of calcium deficiency. I would much rather see our tax money go to research at finding the cause of autism and preferablly not putting even more chemicals into their bodies such as the clincal trials that are happening right now that are testing out antipsychotics on our children only to reduce the symptoms http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/trials/autism-spectrum-disorders-pervasive-developmental-disorders.shtml
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No evidence and yet
There is no evidence that the GFCF diet makes any change to autism?
I can only say that it did not make any difference for my son, but my brother's son is a different person without the GFCF diet. It is hard for me to buy into this conclusion, at least for some autistics.
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Anecdote is not evidence
What you are talking about is personal anecdote. I referred to a study. Anecdotes are not reliable.
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Anecdotes are different if you live it
My brother has had numerous occassions of his son on the GFCF diet and when his son was known to violate it. My brother and his son live it and the on off experiences they have had makes it as real and reliable for them as it is going to get.
BTW, do you really expect much to get published if it does not support the pro-vax agenda?
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Yes, but those tests were done on adults.
Infants are far more sensitive to most poisons than grownups, because of their rapid cell growth and developing nervous and immune systems. You know this, but you persist in this aluminum fantasy.
And ingestion is not the same exposure as INJECTION, is it? You know this and yet you continue to hammer this drum as if it were relevant.
What I see is a continuing pattern of intellectual dishonesty in your remarks.
Or do you think you will get the same results if you eat a steak, if you puree and inject it?
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Breast Milk
Yet the rate of exposure to aluminum is far higher in breast milk vs. vaccines ( http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=88655 ).
According to that study infants receive 4.4mg of aluminum in their first six months due to vaccines... where as they get 7mg (75% greater) from breast feeding , 38mg (9.5 times greater) from formula, and 117mg (29.25 time greater) from soy based formulas.
If there is a link between aluminum and autism then there should be a correlation between autism and formula fed infants as well.
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No, Not Really...
... because it's the CUMULATIVE and COMBINED effect of MULTIPLE POISONS that cause the autoimmune reaction known as autism . Autistic kids have antibodies AGAINST THEIR OWN BRAIN TISSUES. That's why autistic brains are bigger than average. They are swollen with edema due to the allergic response.
And the FORM of aluminum is not the same, so the response should not be, either. Is it aluminum oxide? Aluminum chlorhydrate? Aluminum oxalate? Otherwise, why would potassium ferrOcyanide be much more toxic than potassium ferrIcyanide?
And you continue to pretend that INGESTING poison orally and INJECTING poison present the same danger.
INJECTION IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE EATING POISON DOES NOT RESULT IN 100% ABSORPTION.
Much of the poison passes through the digestive tract without entering the bloodstream. This is why doctors have to give medicine in larger amounts orally than intravenously.
You seem incapable of grasping the "Big Picture" and think that by focusing on narrow little diversions like your aluminum argument, that your position has any merit. Your argument is akin to, 'John Wilkes Booth did not shoot Abraham Lincoln because I did not see it happen.'
Of course you don't see it. You don't WANT to see it. But that doesn't mean it isn't there, or that nobody else sees it.
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Not Really
Biomedical treatments are almost always given along with behavioral treatments and therapy. Behavioral treatments do work. Biomedical treatments do not.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/050602174452.htm
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Wrong
The increase is due to changes in diagnostics not actual cases of Autism. In the old days only the most severe cases were classed as Autism. Now children that before would simply be classed as "different" or Hyperactive or even ADD are now classified as Autistic. One of my Grand Children has been classed as Autistic yet he seems like a normal, extremely intelligent 4 year old with quirks to me. He's a lot like I was as a child. I guess I'm Autistic.
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Ask Any K-6 Teacher or Pediatrician...
...who has been in the business for more than 30 years if they see the same number of sickly or autistic kids as they did when they started, 30 years ago.
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Were those teachers trained in autism diagnosis 30 years ago? Is their evidence based on their memories or actual recorded observations? Would a child diagnosed with mild autism receive the same diagnosis 15 or 30 years ago?
A study published in Pediatrics ( http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/4/1028 ) puts forth strong evidence that the increase in autism cases is due to improved diagnosis techniques.
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And how about the appearance of autism in Eritean refugee's kids?
They had never seen a single case of autism back in Eritrea. They call it "the American Disease" in Minnesota. And it's full-blown autism, at a rate three times the native population.
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[Citation needed]
If there has never been a single case of autism in Eritrea then why does the Eritrean Relief Association ( http://www.justgiving.com/eritreanrauk /) have support for those with autism in Eritrea?
How does this relate to the rate of vaccination within the Eritrean population and what are the diagnostic processes like in Eritrea?
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Sorry, I meant SOMALIA...
Maybe they got some of our old vaccines ... because instead of junking them, we sent them to China, India and Africa. Which are reporting increased incidence of autism ...
http://article.wn.com/view/2009/04/01/Autism_Rates_Higher_in_Some_Somali_Children_j /
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0616-31.htm
http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer?pagename=community_world_incidence
http://ezinearticles.com/?Autism-in-China&id=2634190
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/498085/autism_and_global_human_rights.html?cat=58
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maybe isn't yes
Can you show that they received our old vaccines ... or that those old vaccines cause increased rates of autism ?
From that first link:
"Though health officials emphasized that their report was based on very limited data, they concluded that young Somali children appeared to be two to seven times as likely as other children to be in classes for autistic pupils."
So the study was not conclusive... it also does not mention the vaccination rate for those individuals. Further... if vaccines cause autism then the more modern vaccines will cause it more frequently (the rate of autism diagnosis having increased), and thus the rates of autism in populations vaccinated with older vaccines should be lower then the general population.
The Kennedy report on the Simpsonwood conference was full of misrepresentations and quarter truths.... The very first paragraph contains a misrepresentation
"All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left."
when on page 256 one finds:
"consider it embargoed and protected until it is made public on June 21 and 22 at the ACIP. There is a plan to do that."
Mr. Kennedy also cites the claims of Dr. Weil in support... but Dr. Weil was only one of those attending the conference. When asked to grade the causal relationship the mean was 1.8 out of six, with all but Dr. Weil grading it between 1 and 2, Dr. Weil gave it a 4
Your next source just gives the numbers from one year, it does not show an increase in cases. We also must consider the possibility that the increase in cases is due to improved diagnosis techniques.
Your third source makes claims but does not provide any sources to back them up, it is only four paragraphs long, with no citations at all. I'm also not following their conclusion... they claim that the number of autism cases is growing at the rate of 10% a year... but don't provide anything to back their claim up, aside from stating "The results of our research indicate that the estimated number of children between 4-12 years in China with symptoms of ASD is between 112,000 to 500,000, with the range indicating variances when IQ factors are included in the diagnoses."
The final link you provide claims that the rate of autism is increasing, but provides no context or references to support that claim... nor does it even mention possible causes.
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The School Psychologists Were Trained to Diagnose Autism
My mother has been a practicing school psychologist for 37 years. She has seen the incidence of autism and other autoimmune illness rise dramatically. And she attributes the increase to improved diagnostics AND increased vaccination .
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interesting!
Has she published her study?
How does she correlate vaccination to autism ? The number of people vaccinated has increased so it would be expected that the number of autistic individuals who were vaccinated has increased... so that effect would have to be canceled out.
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Anecdotal evidence such has this has no scientific validity at all. Your mothers belief isn't worth 2 cents.
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Joke
Give it up. After looking over your "proofs" and links I am even more convinced that there is no Autism/Vaccination link. It's all "Junk" science .
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Stunning
How people can keep the vaccine myth alive.
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All Ovwer Nothing
The need for a study on vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations could solve the mystery. Contrary to the CDC's reports and government statistics, there have been studies done on vaccinated vs, unvaccinated populations. They just aren't published or the findings are disputed based on junk science. Nobody can spin the facts better than the people keeping the records. The studies have shown an indisputable link between autism and vaccines for years. Common sense shows the same link.
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Day care center owner for 18 years
I had at least one thousand children in my daycare between 1981 and 1999. I had worked for several months at a university research center for autism in the 1970's so I had some familiarity with autistic children. I recall only one or two children in all the years I owned my daycare that I might consider to have been even possibly slightly autistic. My daycare was very mainstream but we did take care of one child part time who was disabled after the DPT vaccine and he had suffered seizures. So we had very few instances of any vaccine issue. However, I became more and more alarmed at the amount of vaccines that were being given to infants and toddlers in the late 1990's. I thought it was completely out of line for the health care people to decide to add a vaccine such as Hep B not because an infant or toddler might be exposed to Hep but because it was much more difficult to get a child vaccinated as a teen or preteen when exposure may be more likely. The amount of vaccines and the close time span between innoculations is, I believe, way too much for the infant's barely developed system to cope with and I strongly suspect there is the vaccine link. I have never heard of any studies being conducted prior to approving the increased amount of vaccines and combination of vaccines being given to very young children and babies. I would certainly not allow that schedule and quantity for my young child. I would insist the vaccines be spread out. I can not believe the estimate of 1 in 150 childen being diagnosed with autism. Based on my experience, the huge and sudden increase in the diagnosis of autism not because we have better diagnosis techniques and is more likely to be an overuse of the vaccines. The children in my daycare all had MMR shots as required at around age 12 months. Many children had a subsequent fever reaction but no other complications that we ever noted so I do not believe it is a specific vaccine but instead it is the combination and frequency that is a big problem.
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Consider other sources of mercury
The High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) manufacturers have been battling reports that some kinds of processing result in levels of mercury in some products containing HFCS. The manufacturers have countered this claim. There are so many food products that contain corn syrup. This causes one to wonder whether or not mercury levels in humans are caused by experiences with other vectors (aside from vaccines). Perhaps we need to think about this in more depth. Blaming one possible vector is a poor choice.
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Let's not start another bogus rumormill.
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November 9, 2009 9:20AM
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Mercury goes around the sun
I don't intend to start another rumor. The facts are these: 1) Natural sources of mercury may be less toxic than industrial mercury by-products; 2) Some folks have more susceptibility to the toxic effects of mercury than others. People have been consuming corn syrup processed with mercury for years. Some have reactions, and others don't. All I know is that I start to drool and display stereotypic behavior after every non- diet Coke or Pepsi that I drink (lol and sarcasm).
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Drooling
Strange - I always thought it was just my poorly learned drinking habits which caused my drooling...
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a convenient scapegoat
Vaccines are a convenient scapegoat for the cause of autism since the first vaccines are given around the same age that autism is usually diagnosed. Parents are confused, frightened and vulnerable. A doctor just told them that their perfect little bundle of joy has a brain disorder that (depending on the severity) could mean a lifetime of care.
The mercury in vaccines is ethyl-mercury a harmless organic form of mercury that is water soluble(can be excreted through urine).
Methyl-mercury is the persistent, fat-soluble form of mercury that can biomagnify and bioaccumulate. The dangers of mercury first got major public attention around the 1970s after a local company dumped an estimated 27 tons of mercury compounds that were converted by anerobic bacteria methyl-mercury into Minamata Bay in Japan. The methyl-mercury biomagnified in the food chain, was eaten by the residents of the locals fishing villages and caused a myriad of health problems that damaged nerves, organs, the brain, and caused babies to be born with all aforementioned problems plus physical deformities. (I believe that the babies either had deformed arms, no arms, or arms that were flipper-like.)
I am SURE that the mercury in vaccines is totally unrelated to the occurrence of autism in children , because vaccines are now completely mercury-free and the incidence of autism is increasing instead of decreasing.
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Fluvax, Fluvirin and other vaccines...
... still contain mercury and many other poisons. Look at the list of vaccine ingredients. My favorites are formaldehyde and aborted fetal tissue.
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AUTISM LIES
THEY ARE LINKED BUT ONLY THIS WAY..
I am the father of an autistic son, At 16 mos he was a perfectly normal little boy. His mother carried him in for a regular check up and as was the norm the nurse suggested time for the MMR
combo vaccine ,which was ok kendall being the fifth of our six children . When mother and child returned home from the hospital, kendall was naturally sleepy and lay down on my bed and took about an hour nap. Kendall awakened and came into the great room trying to walk on the balls of his feet and waving his arms abnormally and unintelligible nosies ..He is now nine years old, has seen
dozens of doctors and is now an out patient of Glenwood. I have studied, read and listened to every thing I can get my hands on concerning autism , naturally occurring and medically assisted..
I thought for years the drug company's and their paid supporters were lying, they were not. They used carefully worded testimony always claiming the vaccines did not cause autism. They were correct...IT WAS THE PRESERVATIVES ( FORMALDEHYDE AND MERCURY ) THAT WAS ADDED TO GIVE THE CONCOCTION A LONG SHELF LIFE, as it was first developed the shelf life was very short, hence the PROFITS very short. I believe the food and drug administration was paid off, to allow the added components ( formaldehyde and mercury ) TWO OF THE MOST POISONOUS SUBSTANCES KNOWN TO MAN TO BE INJECTED INTO OUR CHILDREN ..one more thing,, naturally occurring autism one birth in about six thousand ,,,With the help of the GREEDY drug companies ONE IN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY BIRTHS ..THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER....
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tragic
Tragic to be sure... however there has never been a conclusive link between vaccines and autism . The only study that came close has been proven to be composed of falsified data.
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1. U.S. Government Concedes Vaccines Cause Autism
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), recently conceded the first vaccine- autism case.
This case was filed in the no-fault National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program as part of the Autism Omnibus proceedings in the U.S. Federal Court of Claims.
It was one of the first three cases chosen that alleged Thimerosal in childhood vaccines significantly contributed to a child developing autism.
Clifford Shoemaker, of Shoemaker and Associates of Vienna, Virginia, is the attorney of record in the Hanna Poling v. Secretary of HHS (case: 02-1466V).
Experts filing on behalf of the petitioner, Hanna Poling, included pediatric neurologist, Dr. Andrew Zimmerman of Johns Hopkins University, and Maryland geneticist and epidemiologist, Dr. Mark Geier of the Genetic Centers of America.
This concession shows the dishonesty of the continual media spin coming from public health officials and others who maintain there is no evidence that Thimerosal, or any other part of any vaccine, has ever caused autism or, for that matter, has harmed anyone in any way.
The facts are that the Vaccine Compensation Act has already compensated over 2,000 individuals who proved that they were harmed by vaccines, resulting in settlements of nearly two billion dollars.
Additionally, hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific/medical articles from some the world’s best universities have long implicated Thimerosal in vaccines as a causal factor in neurodevelopmental disorders including autism.
Furthermore, in 2003, the U.S. House of Representatives’ Government Reform Committee, after a 3.5-year investigation, concluded that Thimerosal caused the autism epidemic and that the FDA and health authorities were guilty of “institutional malfeasance” in covering it up.
Evidence supporting the connection between mercury and autism include:
Published studies from the US and France showing that urinary porphyrins, a biomarker for body-burden of mercury, are elevated in patients diagnosed with autistic disorders ( http://www.mercury-freedrugs.org ).
A published study by researchers at Harvard University that found twice as much mercury and oxidative stress in the brains of those with an autism diagnosis as found in the brains of those who were normal.
A study from the US showing a significant relationship between increasing blood mercury levels and an increased risk of a diagnosis of an autistic disorder.
Numerous papers by independent researchers showing a link between increasing mercury exposure from childhood vaccines and the risk of a child developing an autistic disorder.
Several papers showing that adding low levels of Thimerosal to certain blood, brain, eye, immune, liver and/or muscle cells poisons their cellular mitochondrial pathways and can induce cell death.
Today, despite being banned in Europe and restricted in 7 U.S. states, Thimerosal-containing flu vaccines are still recommended for routine administration to pregnant women and infants, with little or no warning of the presence of this known poison in these and other vaccines.
Vaccines have and will continue to save many lives. However, an immediate ban and recall of vaccines
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mercury and so on
“This concession shows the dishonesty of the continual media spin coming from public health officials and others who maintain there is no evidence that Thimerosal, or any other part of any vaccine, has ever caused autism or, for that matter, has harmed anyone in any way.”
Hanna Poling has a rare (only 4 other cases known) mitochondrial disease that was aggravated by the vaccinations. A disease that does present autism like symptoms but is not autism…
the actual text of the ruing is as follows…
Medical personnel at the Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation, Department of Health and Human Services (DVIC) have reviewed the facts of this case, as presented by the petition, medical records, and affidavits. After a thorough review, DVIC has concluded that compensation is appropriate in this case.
In sum, DVIC has concluded that the facts of this case meet the statutory criteria for demonstrating that the vaccinations CHILD received on July 19, 2000, significantly aggravated an underlying mitochondrial disorder, which predisposed her to deficits in cellular energy metabolism, and manifested as a regressive encephalopathy with features of autism spectrum disorder. Therefore, respondent recommends that compensation be awarded to petitioners in accordance with 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-11(c)(1)(C)(ii).
There is no serious claim that vaccines have never ‘harmed anyone in any way’. There are cases (rare ones) where vaccines have caused problems. There may be an allergic reaction due to the components of the vaccine or due to an auto-immune disorder.
“The facts are that the Vaccine Compensation Act has already compensated over 2,000 individuals who proved that they were harmed by vaccines, resulting in settlements of nearly two billion dollars.”
Out of how many vaccinated in that timeframe? I don’t find it the least bit odd that the Vaccine Compensation Act is compensating people who suffered medical problems due to vaccines.
“Additionally, hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific/medical articles from some the world’s best universities have long implicated Thimerosal in vaccines as a causal factor in neurodevelopmental disorders including autism.”
[Citation needed]
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/118/1/e139 seem to indicate otherwise:
‘Using logistic regression models of the prevalence data, we found no significant effect of thimerosal exposure used either as a continuous or a categorical variable. Thus, thimerosal exposure was unrelated to the increasing trend in pervasive developmental disorder prevalence. These results were robust when additional analyses were performed to address possible limitations because of the ecological nature of the data and to evaluate potential effects of misclassification on exposure or diagnosis. Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination coverage averaged 93% during the study interval with a statistically significant decreasing trend from 96.1% in the older birth cohorts (1988–89) to 92.4% in younger birth cohorts (1996–1998). Thus, pervasive developmental disorder rates significantly increased when measles-mumps-rubella vaccination uptake rates significantly decreased.’
“Furthermore, in 2003, the U.S. House of Representatives’ Government Reform Committee, after a 3.5-year investigation, concluded that Thimerosal caused the autism epidemic and that the FDA and health authorities were guilty of “institutional malfeasance” in covering it up.”
[Citation needed] on that one as well… see the above study that showed that while the presence of reported developmental disorders increased (believed to be an increase in diagnosis rather then an increase in occurrence) the use of vaccines remained constant. There was also a study done in 2001 as to the long term effects of Thimerosal ( http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/107/5/1147 ) which records:
‘The only well-established hazard of thimerosal at doses found in vaccines is delayed-type hypersensitivity reactions. At very high doses, the identified hazards of thimerosal are neurotoxicity and nephrotoxicity. Methylmercury, a similar organic mercurial, has been associated in some studies with subtle neurodevelopmental abnormalities at low doses. Although the data are limited, similar toxicological profiles between ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that neurotoxicity may also occur at low doses of thimerosal; however, such effects have not been reported.’
It is also worth noting that while the number of autism cases has been increasing the presence of Thimerosal has been decreasing since 1999 when the CDC, as a preventative measure, asked that the use of Thimerosal be phased out.
- MrBook
August 12, 2009 5:27PM
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silly babblings
mrbook
your silly rambling rhetoric is just that, you don;t make a bit of sense
you are what God speaks of in his word, sottish and stiffed necked..
read this with understanding..But you will not, you are unable,
I will not waste any more time responding to your silly drivel...
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dribbling
“I will not waste any more time responding to your silly drivel...”
What in my discourse was ‘silly drivel’? You presented claims that the mercury in Thirmosal is the cause of Autism, to which I responded with studies that seem to show otherwise.
You also cited the Hanna Poling case as one where the US government admitted that vaccines cause autism to which I provided the exact text of the opinion from that court… which did not state that vaccines had caused autism, but rather that the vaccine interacted with a very rare genetic disorder resulting in a variety of medical conditions … including autism-like symptoms.
Even if I accepted your premise that mercury in vaccines causes Autism then how is the Hanna Poling case the government admitting to that fact?
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and so forth
“Published studies from the US and France showing that urinary porphyrins, a biomarker for body-burden of mercury, are elevated in patients diagnosed with autistic disorders ( http://www.mercury-freedrugs.org ). “
Correlation is not causation. Can it be demonstrated that the elevated levels of mercury are the result of the presence of Thimerosal or could it come from other environmental factors? The study shows an association between urinary porphyrins and the occurrence of Autism, but that does not automatically imply that the high levels of porphyrins were caused by the presence of Thimerosal in vaccines . Indeed the study was done from 2005 to 2006, six years after the phase out of Thimerosal began.
“A published study by researchers at Harvard University that found twice as much mercury and oxidative stress in the brains of those with an autism diagnosis as found in the brains of those who were normal.
A study from the US showing a significant relationship between increasing blood mercury levels and an increased risk of a diagnosis of an autistic disorder.
Numerous papers by independent researchers showing a link between increasing mercury exposure from childhood vaccines and the risk of a child developing an autistic disorder.
Several papers showing that adding low levels of Thimerosal to certain blood, brain, eye, immune, liver and/or muscle cells poisons their cellular mitochondrial pathways and can induce cell death.”
[Citation needed] for these. There are many studies (some of which I have already listed that indicate otherwise.
“Today, despite being banned in Europe and restricted in 7 U.S. states, Thimerosal-containing flu vaccines are still recommended for routine administration to pregnant women and infants, with little or no warning of the presence of this known poison in these and other vaccines.”
Because it has never been demonstrated to be dangerous in the concentrations used in vaccines.
“Vaccines have and will continue to save many lives. However, an immediate ban and recall of vaccines”
Your response there seems to be clipped… If you are asking for a removal of Thimerosal from vaccines then that is already in progress. It takes time to develop new preservatives, and there are known dangers in the removal of Thimerosal from use (bacterial contamination of vaccines was responsible for the development of Thimerosal back in the 1930s). Due to safety concerns there is a fairly long ‘spin up time’ between the development of something like Thimerosal and it’s wide spread application (developed in 1930s it did not reach saturation until the 1980s).
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And How, Pray Tell, Could One Demonstrate a Positive Link?
Dissect live babies and watch their neurons fry after injection with phenol, formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, ammonia, beef serum, egg albumin, mercury, live viruses and silicones?
What could you do to prove a link, that isn't banned by medical ethics ?
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falsified
There would have to be statistical studies done on the population showing the link... these studies have been done, and have shown no link between autism and vaccines .
The Danish Study ( http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/290/13/1763 ) showed no change in the autism rate between those who received thimerosal vaccines and those who did not.
The idea that there is an autism epidemic is has been shown to be due to an increase in diagnosis rather then an actual increase in occurrence ( http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/4/1028 )
An attempt at replicating the Wakefield study, without the fraud, turned up nothing ( http://www.plosone.org/article/info %3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003140)
The Chicago meta-study (compiling the results from ~20 other studies) done on the three leading vaccine - autism link hypothesis did not show any link as well ( http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086 /596476?cookieSet=1)
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