Should California Pass Prop 8?

Should California Pass Prop 8?

The California Supreme Court abolished the state’s same-sex marriage ban in May, sparking public celebration in some places and angry protest in others. Now some critics of same-sex marriage are fighting back with an initiative to reinstate the ban, leaving voters once again divided. Should marriage remain between a man and a woman, or is it time to widen the aisle for same-sex couples? (Editor's Note: On November 4th, California voters passed Proposition 8 to ban same-sex marriage.)

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Supporting Proposition 8 Was Not Easy; Nor Is It Bigoted
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  • brianegan
    Your Religion should not be US Law

    "Let's be clear: Jews have been denied civil rights; we aren't looking to deny others anything. But this is not about legal rights for gay couples. It is about a threat to religious institutions under the guise of civil rights."

    Let me be clear, this is a denial of civil rights, plain and simple, and you are very clearly denying Gays of their right to wed -- you can't honestly debate that fact. Your religion is under no obligation to recognize these people as married, nor will you ever be required to wed these couples, and it does not affect your religion in any way whatsoever. We're not going to regulate or change your religion at all, all we want is for you religion to stop oppressing us and guiding our religious practices.

    There is no "guise" here or whatever you want to call it. Gays are being denied an opportunity everyone else has. I honestly don't care what your religion says, just as you should not care what mine says, but we should both have the right to practice our religions. My religions says it's A-OK for gays to marry one another, yours doesn't.

    Therefore, don't let gays marry in your church. We'll let gays marry in mine.

    From the Bill of Rights:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." We aren't prohibiting your religion from doing anything, so you shouldn't be able to prohibit the exercise of my religion from doing what it feels is right.

    - brianeganUS October 29, 2008 6:10PM

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  • hap
    Well, at least it wasn't easy to decide to support discrimination.

    What a relief to hear that you had at least a twinge of conscience.


    The fact that Jews have faced discrimination and oppression does not excuse supporting prop 8.

    How incredibly sad that you've chosen to ally yourselves with forces working to take rights away from others based only on their personal prejudice and their religious beliefs.

    - hapUS January 1, 2009 2:19PM

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  • Blue Linchpin
    It was bigoted and easy in every way

    To claim that it wasn't easy or bigoted is an insult to the intelligence of the readers here. It was easy. The issue didn't affect you at all, your rights weren't being taken away. All you had to do was vote, and simple as that, someone's value as a human being was diminished.

    It was bigoted: what exactly isn't bigoted about denying a group the same civil rights you enjoy simply because you don't 'approve'?

    - Blue LinchpinUS January 1, 2009 3:56PM

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