Experts and users discuss pet ownership, animal rights, pet adoption: “Pets:” The Problem of Treatment
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“Pets:” The Problem of Treatment
- From Gary L Francione
By Gary L. Francione - Rutgers University School of Law
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Thank You.
Thank you for speaking so eloquently for those we primarily regard as our property. Having worked with people concerning “their pet’s” nutritional needs. I was always heart-broken concerning our ignorance of their basic needs and rights as sentient beings. I can only assume it is because of our own lack of consciousness and self-love.
Thank you again.
- alfawav
August 29, 2008 3:16PM
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It doesn't bode well for your argument...
When I reject your initial premise.
You say
" animals are property; they are things that have only extrinsic or conditional value. That is, they have only the value that we, the owners of animal property, accord to them."
This is demonstrably false. I understand from a legal aspect, this may be correct, but your argument focuses too closely on legality, which is a small part of the overall argument.
I just wasn't moved by your argument.
- Blappo
April 25, 2009 1:44AM
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it is accurate
working in the vet field I see how people view and treat their animals ....most of them treat animals like their car or other "loved" object that serves a perceived need ( entertainment , combat lonliness, etc)....allowing them to care for their animal and not care about the pain inflicted upon other nonhuman animals like pigs and cows.
- progressisdead
April 26, 2009 2:12PM
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I'm sorry, but arguments from authority chafe
"working in the vet field"
That is an argument from authority. The field you work in has nothing to do with anything, and is a cheap way to pretend your opinion has value that exceeds another's.
"I see how people view and treat their animals "
No, you see what YOU WANT TO SEE. It's a well know problem, called confirmation bias, and you're a perfect example of it.
Your argument, honestly, really has nothing of substance or value at all.
- Blappo
May 1, 2009 9:00PM
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Consider animal hoarders
Progressisdead-Cant agree more. I have had the misfortune to live next to animal hoarders. Most had no contact with their animals at all,but they collected them like objects. I am gulity of abucting 4 cats from two different animal hoarders because I just could not keep watching them neglect their animals and breed more and more....
And the most amazing thing is that this is all perfectly legal - yes in Australia there is no law that actually makes it illegal to neglect your cats so long as they are fed. They can be sick, full of parasites and producing kittens twice a year. If I called the shelter- the shelter would put the cats down- so I stole them kept 3 and rehomed the others.
I broke the law .
- sor666
August 31, 2009 1:26PM
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