Passage Blunts a Political Agenda
In the same
way some people have tried to use same-sex marriage as a means of promoting a
homosexual agenda, they are now using adoption and foster care. Children should not be used as pawns by any
special interest group. Several states
have already affirmed that homosexuals may legally adopt children or serve as
foster parents. The voters of Arkansas need the opportunity to prevent this from happening
in our state.
Although he was speaking of same-sex marriage, Michelangelo Signorile wrote in Out magazine in 1996, "The trick is, gay leaders and pundits must stop watering the issue down--'this is simply about equality for gay couples'--and offer same-sex marriage for what it is: an opportunity to reconstruct a traditionally homophobic institution by bringing it to our more equitable queer value system ...a chance to wholly transform the definition of family in American culture....Our gay leaders must acknowledge that gay marriage is just as radical and
transformative as the religious Right contends it is.”
Similarly, Paul Ettelbrick, professor of law at NYU and Columbia, writes:
“Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the
same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so....Being queer means
pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process
transforming the very fabric of society.”
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Children should not be used as pawns. So, with that in mind we would all like to ask the AFC, FRC and all the rest of you bigots to stop using them as pawns. It's really inappropriate and entirely transparent.
And a single parent home is also robbing the children but it appears there is something far worse than one parent and that is two same sex parents! Listen to Cassidys story and let her tell you that we need to protect the children. She is a lady who would know!Kids need both parents.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1168934/posts
Quote:Why does she oppose same-sex marriage ? "It's not something that a seal of approval should be stamped on: We shouldn't say it is a great and wonderful thing and then you have all these kids who later in life will turn around and realize they've been cheated. The adults choose to have that lifestyle and then have a kid. They are fulfilling their emotional needs -- they want to have a child -- and they are not taking into account how that's going to feel to the child; there's a clear difference between having same-sex parents and a mom and a dad." end quote
Couldnt have said it better myself.
who have kids to fill their own emotional needs?
By this I mean... Most parents. Can we stop the octomom's and the john and kate + 8's and all the ones that, thankfully, don't get on TV ? Can we stop the straights from having all of the accidental kids they didn't want?
Straights have kids by accident, or worse on purpose to try to fix their screwed up relationship (can't tell you how many times I've seen that happen) all the time. Why aren't you doing anything to stop these people from having or adopting kids?
If you like I could come up with thousands of stories about people who had problems in life because of their straight parents. Don't think for a second that this one person who wrote for free republic even remotely proves your case.
Children need their mother and their father as much as is possible, ie unless that puts them in some kind of danger due to imbalanced parents, when you have both parents you have a better chance in life and kids need all the help they can get.
Since you're a single parent, you should lose your child !
BTW, your "God" is a non-existent figment of your imagination, so don't even bring that into debate. The solution to this is also, as Roger said, to ban divorce .
"BTW, your "God" is a non-existent figment of your imagination..."
Can you prove that, or are you just imagining that you'd prefer He didn't?
More evidence that liberalism is a mental disorder...
The fact is that you cannot produce evidence to show that your "God" DOES exist. The burden of proof is on you, not me.
And I'm not a Liberal, so try again.
Ahh now remember, he is one of those who believes that everyone who disagrees with his ideology is incorrect... he's just chosen to define his ideology as conservativism. The wing nuts are a group that no political grouping can ever be free from.
I guess the logical result of your argument is to ban divorce in any marriage where there are children , unless one spouse has a lover of the opposite sex who is ready to move in immediately? Would that satisfy what the children need? How about a law that if not already married, two peopole become married as a matter of law if they have a baby?
God makes gay people gay. Is He sadistic? Does He want us to hate them and condemn them? If you read your Bible carefully, you will see Jesus never said anything bad about gays.
I had a friend growing up who was the son of very religious parents. He was tought to hate homosexuals because their religion condemned them. He was kind of small, and preferred art to sports. Later, when he was in high school, he was very effeminate. Still, he hated gays. By the time I had graduated from college I had met enough gay people to be fairly certain God had made him gay. The last time I saw him he told me about the new church he had joined. It was, of course, strongly anti-gay. I did not confront him. A year later, he threw himself off an overpass.
Does anyone believe he would have chosen to be gay?
Your wrong! People choose to be homosexual everyday and now we are seeing droves of them, yes droves of them, choosing to leave and doing so very successfully.
If people can choose to be gay they must choose to be straight too right? At what point did you choose to be straight? What would it take to get you to choose to be gay? You may choose to have same sex sex or you may choose not to but neither of those choices will make you gay or straight. Roger 47 gave a great example. I could also give Ted "meth and male hookers" Haggard or Larry "bathroom sex" Craig as examples of people who were likely born gay (though maybe they're straight but spend so much of their life focusing on gay sex they just couldn't resist it anymore) but they chose to be hypocritical bigots.
Suppose you got kidnapped by aliens and ended up in a world where everyone was gay, and if you did not live your life that way you would be persecuted, beaten, and maybe killed. Hallelujah, could you then choose to be gay and be happy in that life? If your answer is no, you should consider that maybe it is not a choice, that some people are gay because that is the way they were made to be. They can't change even if they really wanted to.
I have a childhood friend who was made to be gay, but because of his religious upbringing, he could never accept it. He threw himself off an overpass a couple decades ago.
and it is very difficult to communicate with a twisted mind. Honestly, a large majority of homosexuals have difficulty reading and comprehending what they have read, they have difficulty in long term relationship, and they are often troubled with family relationships also, they often cannot relate to the vast majority of folks and either seperate themselves from mainstream society or become isolated and depressed, and through all this they have a higher number of STD's of which many are killing them. They are not often monogomous and frequently hostile and evil brutal to anyone who disagrees with them. They cannot sit still for long periods of time nor can they focus on something for very long. They tend to evade any questions regarding sexual activity and often are sexually traumatized and act this anger out on others. So to answer your question could I be gay? With all my heart I say only if Gd curses me and abandons me could I be gay. Having said that I know of organizations that think of nothing but how they can be there for the homosexual who is struggling and wants to leave that lifestyle and to anyone who is not happy with their homosexuality does not have to settle for gayness when happiness is waiting one decision away!I respect your right to choose and if that is truely the life you want I will stand beside your decision and defend your right to choose it but as for me I would rather choose Jesus than anything the homosexual community could offer me, ANYTHING.
I believe all people are born heterosexual and either through rape or trauma or indoctrination are recruited into homosexuality and there is enough evidence to back that up. If you doubt it check the stats on how many homosexuals claim to have been molested as children or teenagers and youll find an alarming number, so, doesnt it make sense that homosexuals would then use these methods more often? Gd bless you, no matter your lifestyle choice.
You're right. If people choose Jesus then they won't be gay. It worked great for Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Alan Rekers, Eddie Long, etc etc
If Jesus couldn't ungay these guys then what chance does anybody else have?
I'm not even going to waste my time on the rest of the ignorant uninformed crap you spewed before that. With the exception of the family relationships part. If you bigots would stop kicking your kids out of the house for being gay and would quit telling them how evil they are for being gay then maybe those family relationships would improve.
"Honestly, a large majority of homosexuals..."
Can you support that with evidence? Because the facts at hand would indicate otherwise.
This entire screed reeks of bigotry and close-mindedness.
After all, he's the king of bigotry and close-mindedness. Like most liberals , he believes in tolerance only when it applies to things liberals believe. Or imagine...
The_Pilgrim
This guy is pretty far from what is commonly defined as liberalism, at least with regards to this issue.
And yes, liberals believe in tolerance for things they believe in... like gender and ethnic equality, or tolerance for different points of views.
Well many do at least... as one moves from the center "tolerance" towards opposing ideas tends to drop off. But the you illustrate that point rather well ;)
entirely pleased with and that is when I was asked if I could be gay I said only if Gd curses me or abandons me and I would like to elaborate on that and say that if someone out there is a practicing homosexual I did not mena to imply that Gd does not want you to change that lifestyle and come back to Him. It was a question given to me and me alone and I answered it on my own feelings. I can understand why someone would choose to follow the homosexual road, it looks fun, it seems like a close knit group, it appears very accepting of anyone who is like them, they share money and resources, it looks good from the outside but like sin its deceiving and what you get is not what you thought, its very much the bait and switch, and more often than not its victims end up regretting that choice.The gay life, according to much testimony, is not very happy and I dont think anyone should be told they dont have choice, its unfair, its binding. This boys tragic death is more evidence that this lifestyle is dangerous and it wrecks havoc with a persons mental and emotional state of being. So thanks for the offer but I choose Jesus instead.
"I can understand why someone would choose to follow the homosexual road, it looks fun, it seems like a close knit group, it appears very accepting of anyone who is like them, they share money and resources, it looks good from the outside but like sin its deceiving and what you get is not what you thought, its very much the bait and switch, and more often than not its victims end up regretting that choice."
It looks fun? Joining a group that means that you can never get married, will likely be persecuted and possibly killed for joining, a group that does have the same legal protections as other groups?
I will agree that the homosexual community is largely more accepting then mainstream society ... which often occurs among groups ostracized by mainstream society, and that such communities often support their members as part of mutual protection.
However you have yet to demonstrate how it is a choice.
"This boys tragic death is more evidence that this lifestyle is dangerous and it wrecks havoc with a persons mental and emotional state of being."
Homosexuality is only dangerous because of the actions of the larger society. If you are repeatedly told that you are a terrible person, that your mind is twisted, and that you are evil... that you have to change but are unable to do so... who wouldn't go crazy.
It is society at large that is doing this to homosexuals... individuals who in a more tolerant society would live their lives just like anyone else.
In the case mentioned above it is the fault of the town that the guy lived in that he was driven to suicide .
Hatred is INCREDIBLY Christian, as Hope7 so clearly demonstrates.
But only if you define "hatred" as knowing the difference between right and wrong ...
Something that obviously escapes most liberals . Just as the law of unintended consequences escapes most liberals.
Liberalism is a mental disorder - and a permanent vegetative state...
The_Pilgrim