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Legal Abortion Promotes Health and Justice for Women
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By National Abortion Federation
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Response to a sexist perspective
So the right to kill a human being is a human right? Great! When does hunting season open? [Please forgive the sarcasm of the previous question].
However, one could use similar language in talking about a man's right to choose; that is, 'Only when [men] are able to control their reproductive capacity can they achieve true equality in society.'
Of course, 'reproductive capacity,' and 'control,' are kind of vague; possibly meaning anything from abstinence to 'slaughter of children,' to 'wanton rape.'
- JKM121
September 6, 2008 4:05PM
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sexless achieves social status?
Huh?
Are you suggesting that women don't enjoy exercising their reproductive capacity and desire sexually competent men to Make Love with? You could be an exception and from an outdated group of "persons" carrying what is know as feministic attitudes. With my age group, that is so gone, and we are so much together on a common ground.
Why am I not surprised that it's all men's fault here? speaking of control..wouldn't you just love to be in control over every man's sex?. I hope thought that the time does come that you feel equal like the Ladies that I know do.
How many abortions are in fact a result of rape and not just a form of birth control or philosophical defiance?
- Me2
February 3, 2009 1:55AM
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Reading Club
You know, quotation marks ("") indicate that the words between them come from somewhere other than the writer. In this format it typically indicates the words to which the author is responding. So you should be addressing the author of the original post, but then you would be making my case.
To answer the only worthwhile question in your post; very, very few. If you're really interested, I'm sure a little research would give you several different numbers from which most people should be able to make an educated estimate as to what the actual number is.
- JKM121
April 29, 2009 7:12PM
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Men are not treated as equal to women
If the NAF believed in reproductive equality for men and women, then they would be fighting to ensure that the permission of father of the unborn child is sought before any abortion occurs. Clearly, however, men are not on equal footing with women in this regard. Do men not have the right to reproduce without fearing that someone will slay their child?
- ufcarazy
February 5, 2009 10:51AM
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Reminds me of the
movie with Schwarzenegger carrying the baby to full term. When that can happen, then you will be on equal footing with women on the reproductive issue. Until then please take your complaints to Mother Nature or god , whichever you believe to be at fault.
- mangueken
April 4, 2009 1:51PM
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Sexism of any form is illogical and immoral
If it weren't for both your father and mother, you would not be able to form any opinion on this issue. If you don't like this fact, take it up with Mother Nature or God, whichever you believe to be at fault.
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April 4, 2009 4:30PM
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I wasn't
aware that I was talking to an oppressed man from Amazonia.
- mangueken
April 4, 2009 8:53PM
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Men are human beings and deserve the freedom of choice
You are not speaking to such a man. However, there are many men who are oppressed by feminist ideology. Although women have the option of choosing whether to provide life to their children , men do not have the option of choosing whether to provide financial support. Men cannot refuse to pay child support simply on the basis that it is inconvenient. Men are forced to take care of children they do not love, but women are not treated likewise. This oppression affects their lives greatly since it denies them otherwise available opportunities for happiness. Imagine if the government stole money from your paycheck before you could cash it and gave to someone whom you gave a shit about. How would you feel?
If a woman should have the right to murder a man's child without his consent, then a man should have the right to deny financial support for the child of a woman without her consent. Aren't you pro-choice for ALL people?
- ufcarazy
April 7, 2009 1:52PM
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No only pro choice for the one who has responsibility
The man has no responsibility until the child is born. He might die. He might skip town. He might get thrown in prison. The woman might have had more than one sexual partner around the time of conception.
The man has no rights at all. It's all up to the mother. She has to carry it for nine months(should she choose to have it). The man is irrelevant in this situation. The choice is and should only be the mother's.
- Dank
April 29, 2009 6:04PM
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choice/responsibility
So you're only for abortion when the woman would take responsiblity for her child anyway?
- JKM121
April 29, 2009 7:15PM
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But why?
Why should the father be responsible for the child only after it is born if he played no role in creating the child in the first place?
If you are pro-choice only for the one with responsibility, then since the paycheck of the father belongs solely to him, he and only he should be allowed to decide how that money is spent. Thus, he should not be forced to pay child support if he doesn't feel like it. The mother has no rights at all. It's all up to the father. He has to work 8 hours a day five days a week (should he choose). The woman is irrelevant in this situation. The choice should only be the father's.
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April 29, 2009 9:43PM
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